It's no big deal.
A little exciting? Sure. Because I realized it wasn't such a big deal. I was excited because I said, "Oh my God, I can do this!"
Going into the men's room isn't a big deal. I don't get in trouble and no one gives me hassle. The thing is, so many people twist it out of proportion and freak over it. You want to know the difference? It smells like piss and there's urinals on the wall. Oh, and there aren't little garbage cans in the stalls for pads and girly stuff.
Glorious, glorious piss! All this worrying, this whining, this anticipation for a pissy floor and a trough to pee in.
I guess I just wanted to post that I accidentally walked into the men's room at a Thai restaurant (the picture on the door was a guy but I couldn't tell-- it was a Thai painting) and I also used the bathroom with my dad yesterday after working at a construction site, and it wasn't a big deal at all. It didn't bug him, it didn't bug me, and the other man in the room wasn't bugged either. I didn't pee at the time because I was just washing my hands before lunch, but I was still in that bathroom for a decent amount of time before I left (I didn't want to crowd the room after I was done).
Also, just to add, my dad broke his foot in a motorcycle accident quite some time ago and hasn't fully recovered so he sometimes sits to pee. Guys don't always sit to pee because of penis issues. Just to help people with low confidence. I don't think I'll ever get a stand to pee device... it seems just inconvenient in most scenarios. Maybe I'll feel different in a few years, but right now, I have no shame in sitting to pee.
To add to my confidence, no one gave me any weird looks. I fit right in. ;D That was a major relief.
Hey Elwood,
If we're OK to use the Ladies...feel free to use he Men's anytime.. ;)
Chrissty
You're so pretty Chrissty, I wouldn't mind you coming into the men's room with me, either. Haha.
But you might get some funny looks from the guys. :P
Don't mind if if I do with a good lookin' guy like you...
But I'm still struggling to work out how get the coton wool out of those dispenser buckets in the Ladies....OOps!....maybe I don't want to know....
Chrissty
Haha! I've never understood those things. I tried it use it once (I was having one of those period emergencies, how awful) and the damn thing was stuck. They're useless and just take up space!
Would be cool to have flower or unicorn dispensers in the girl's room, though. That'd get the boys jealous.
Yes, bathrooms are no big deal. Unless you're making some argument about TG/TS and need to introduce a red-herring, Elwood. Then they seem to have worth somewhat higher than gold! ;)
I have to say I'm very glad you enjoy the smell of pee, get used to it. It'll be an almost constant companion in a men's room as I recall. Also, as I recall just like in the women's public toilets, if you are going to sit make sure you wipe down the seat, they are often wet as I recall. :)
You are handsome, like Chrissty said, but not cute enough for me to go back in one.
N~
LOL. I don't really like the smell of pee. I was being semi-sarcastic on that one. Haha.
Haha, well, I'm so mousy and shy sometimes I don't know what to say... I think girls belong in the girl's room anyway. Safer there. And besides, you guys get little garbage cans and the colors in the lady's room are often softer (or at least pinker, unless everything is chrome). :P
Glad it went so well for you. Personally, I reeeeallly want to stand to pee though if I ever get to visit the mens room. Kind of a big thing for me :D That's the only point I'd disagree with you on. I've done enough squatting in my lifetime (ew at the reminder of all those pee drops on the toilet seat).
Quote from: trapthavok on July 19, 2008, 06:56:31 PM
Glad it went so well for you. Personally, I reeeeallly want to stand to pee though if I ever get to visit the mens room. Kind of a big thing for me :D That's the only point I'd disagree with you on. I've done enough squatting in my lifetime (ew at the reminder of all those pee drops on the toilet seat).
It would be nice to stand to pee-- if I had a real penis. Other than that... I just don't care enough.
That's probably my depression talking. The "why do I even bother" kind of mind set.
As for squatting, forget it. I lay my ass on the seat. I'll wipe it off first if it's clearly wet. Guess I don't care much about germs if they aren't going to hurt me much. Getting some bacteria on my thighs ain't gonna kill me.
You ain't seen nothin yet, Havok!! :laugh"
Neither room requires much more than attitude and confidence. As long as your eyes are not darting back and forth and you are not creeping your way through as if the Mission Impossible theme song was playing in the background no one will thing that you do not belong. Just keep your head held high and your back straight and walk in like you know what your purpose is (taking a piss ;D).
In the entire time I have been using the men's room I had one problem. Early on I answered my phone and everything was bad after that. Don't talk or answer your phone in a public bathroom. Other then that wasn't a big deal.
->-bleeped-<-boy
I didn't even need to feel confident. I mean, Christ, it's just takin' a piss and movin' out. Men don't tend to look at each other in the men's room much anyway.
Because it wasn't a big deal to me, no one made a big deal out of it.
Quote from: Elwood on July 19, 2008, 09:19:21 PM
Because it wasn't a big deal to me, no one made a big deal out of it.
Absolutely right! And if we could all get a handle on that, we would understand that really, people don't care nearly as much as we might imagine they do. Virtually everyone in either rest room is just there to take care of their business and get out. I've never met anyone ->-bleeped-<- hunting.
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Quote from: noxdraconis on July 19, 2008, 08:21:34 PM
Neither room requires much more than attitude and confidence. As long as your eyes are not darting back and forth and you are not creeping your way through as if the Mission Impossible theme song was playing in the background no one will thing that you do not belong. Just keep your head held high and your back straight and walk in like you know what your purpose is (taking a piss ;D).
I don't know, having a mission impossible theme might be cool! :laugh:
Not sure I'm looking forward to using the mens bathroom, but the only time I use public bathrooms is when I'm on vacation or if I really have to. I was helping out at my church, cleaning the bathrooms... walked into the men's room and it smelt so bad I have to pull my shirt up to my nose. But its the bathroom that the little kids use the most, that might be why.
I used to hate using public bathrooms because of my insecurity. But ->-bleeped-<-, using the man's room is so easy and not a problem. I don't think anyone cares. It makes me happy, no one cares... I'd say that's a pretty good deal.
I'd say the smell isn't really that much worse. Sometimes there's pee on the floor and that stinks but... meh. Only in there for a couple minutes anyway.
I usually find no real reason to use a public bathroom, so for me its not an insecurity thing. I could understand why it'd be that way for some and I do admit, sometimes I feel very awkward in there with all those women. And even without T and without binding, sometimes I get 'sir''d which is a bit weird because I don't look that manly... so sometimes I wonder if people kind of do a double take in the restroom. :laugh:
I'm sure the smell isn't that bad. I mean, I've seen the women's bathroom in horrible condition in most places I go. So it was most likely just because of the little boys causing a mess in the bathroom I had to clean up. And you're right, its only for a couple of minutes anyway.
Man, I'd hold it ALL DAY LONG.
See, I'm out a lot. A student and performer. So I often drink, drink, drink bit never pee. It's actually a bit dangerous when you hold it as long as I do. I have to have a bathroom break at least in the middle of the day.
In the women's room I have minor difficulties. The girls rarely have trouble but I have a lot trouble. They just assume I'm a lesbian.
Quote from: Monty on July 19, 2008, 10:19:48 PM
And even without T and without binding, sometimes I get 'sir''d which is a bit weird because I don't look that manly... so sometimes I wonder if people kind of do a double take in the restroom. :laugh:
Yeah, it's weird. This has been happening more and more to me lately. I think the issue is that I dress a lot like a guy anyway (well, a lot is pretty unisex), but I've always had longish hair to keep up the ruse that I'm a girl. Unfortunately guy hairstyles have gotten longer and now to some people I probably look like a teenage boy. I never thought my face looked that masculine, but I guess it looks more masculine than the average girl's.... or maybe it's more about the way you hold yourself than what you look like, to some extent. I can't act like a girl, even if I consciously try. But anyways, this is one issue that has gotten me thinking again about transitioning - even though I've stayed female so that I don't have to put up with being labeled a freak, some people are reading me as a guy anyway. *shrug* I can't win. There's no way that I'll start dressing girly in addition to keeping my hair long (which incidentally I want to friggin' shave off.)
Joseph
What? Trans guys who don't want to look like guys? Now I'm TOTALLY lost.
Joe, cut your hair, man. Do it for you. Besides, if you wear eyeliner, you'll pass as a girl when you need to. For serious. :-X I know a gay guy who totally looks like a dude when he ain't got make up on.
Quote from: Elwood on July 19, 2008, 11:13:21 PM
What? Trans guys who don't want to look like guys? Now I'm TOTALLY lost.
Joe, cut your hair, man. Do it for you. Besides, if you wear eyeliner, you'll pass as a girl when you need to. For serious. :-X I know a gay guy who totally looks like a dude when he ain't got make up on.
Haha... see the post I just put in the "Doctors" thread for explanation. (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,39428.msg257251.html#msg257251 (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,39428.msg257251.html#msg257251))
Besides, I can't stand makeup. Actually I've never worn makeup...I can't even stand the thought of putting on lipstick, much less things like eyeliner. Yeah I've contemplated getting my hair cut short in a way that could still be interpreted as female when necessary... but, I guess I'm afraid of proving that I have gender issues to people who already suspect it.
Joseph
I don't know, man... you shouldn't worry so much about what others are going to think. No matter what you do, they're going to think what they want to think. I know its hard to not worry about it, but I don't think its worth it. Its your life, not theirs and if they can't accept that then why should you have to please them?
In high school my hair was short, in a boy's cut. No one questioned me. My last year of high school there was a rumour I was a lesbian and it had nothing to do with my appearance, but because I had never had a boyfriend. ::)
Whatever, it was a stupid reason to think someone is a lesbian. I couldn't control what they thought and it just wasn't worth my time... I figured that I should only care about the people close to me when it comes to what they think... and if they're truly thinking for whats best for me.
Quote from: Joseph on July 20, 2008, 12:01:13 AMQuote from: Elwood on July 19, 2008, 11:13:21 PMWhat? Trans guys who don't want to look like guys? Now I'm TOTALLY lost.
Joe, cut your hair, man. Do it for you. Besides, if you wear eyeliner, you'll pass as a girl when you need to. For serious. :-X I know a gay guy who totally looks like a dude when he ain't got make up on.
Haha... see the post I just put in the "Doctors" thread for explanation. (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,39428.msg257251.html#msg257251 (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,39428.msg257251.html#msg257251))
Besides, I can't stand makeup. Actually I've never worn makeup...I can't even stand the thought of putting on lipstick, much less things like eyeliner. Yeah I've contemplated getting my hair cut short in a way that could still be interpreted as female when necessary... but, I guess I'm afraid of proving that I have gender issues to people who already suspect it.
Joseph
Transition should be about you, not what other people think.
I have to wear make up. I'm an actor. Every manly man you see on the big screen is wearing some sort of foundation.
Posted on: July 20, 2008, 10:20:42 AM
Quote from: Monty on July 20, 2008, 12:11:37 AMI don't know, man... you shouldn't worry so much about what others are going to think. No matter what you do, they're going to think what they want to think. I know its hard to not worry about it, but I don't think its worth it. Its your life, not theirs and if they can't accept that then why should you have to please them?
Seriously. And besides, I'd rather be a ->-bleeped-<- than have people assume I'm a butch dyke.
Quote from: Monty on July 20, 2008, 12:11:37 AM
In high school my hair was short, in a boy's cut. No one questioned me. My last year of high school there was a rumour I was a lesbian and it had nothing to do with my appearance, but because I had never had a boyfriend. ::)
Same thing happened to me, cept I had long hair (which I always kept in a ragged ponytail). I got called a lesbian because I never really talked to people, dressed in baggy clothes, and never had a boyfriend :P Happens to the best of us
Quote from: Monty on July 19, 2008, 10:19:48 PM
I'm sure the smell isn't that bad. I mean, I've seen the women's bathroom in horrible condition in most places I go. So it was most likely just because of the little boys causing a mess in the bathroom I had to clean up. And you're right, its only for a couple of minutes anyway.
Sometimes I feel like I could argue some women's restrooms smell worse XD Two words: Menstruation Cycle :eusa_sick:
Yeah. I've never been in a men's room that smelled like hot blood.
Well, FWIW, I've had a lot of those jobs in my younger days when I had to clean both rest rooms. Overall, the women's was cleaner than the men's. But, when a women's room gets bad, it can be the worst thing of all. When spoiled girls decide to trash one, look out!
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Quote from: Monty on July 19, 2008, 09:30:27 PM
I was helping out at my church, cleaning the bathrooms... walked into the men's room and it smelt so bad I have to pull my shirt up to my nose. But its the bathroom that the little kids use the most, that might be why.
OK, guys, I'm gonna apologize for this beforehand and then say it. I'm sorry,but I always thought that the men's room was the one the "little kids" always use! >:D
Nichole
Quote from: Joseph on July 20, 2008, 12:01:13 AM
I guess I'm afraid of proving that I have gender issues to people who already suspect it.
Joseph
I hear ya. I'm the most private person there is. And transitioning means having to expose my most private self publicly just in order for me to be ME. But it's something I have to do as I transition because there will come a time in the near future where I will legally change my name and gender markers and my employer will have to know. I can't put off transitioning until I'm ready to quit there (2-3 more years) as I need the money and health insurance.
Jay
My partner ( a butch woman) uses her "pea-shooter" in the men's room all the time. No biggie but we do live in the Bay Area where attitiudes are more liberal than most anywhere.
I was thinking of getting a plain caphiter (not the ones that look like dicks) to use, because it would be faster/easier than always putting my butt on the seat. But I just don't know where I'd put it. I need one that's rubber and can be stuffed into a pocket or something.
Quote from: Elwood on July 19, 2008, 06:19:14 PM
It smells like piss and there's urinals on the wall. Oh, and there aren't little garbage cans in the stalls for pads and girly stuff.
Glorious, glorious piss! All this worrying, this whining, this anticipation for a pissy floor and a trough to pee in.
Hahaha... you are so right! I hold my breath everytime I go into the one at work cause it smells bad and its a corporate office! Remember to keep your laces tied near the unrinals don't want em touching the floor..... Congratulations!! :D
Quote from: Elwood on July 22, 2008, 10:53:33 AM
I was thinking of getting a plain caphiter (not the ones that look like dicks) to use, because it would be faster/easier than always putting my butt on the seat. But I just don't know where I'd put it. I need one that's rubber and can be stuffed into a pocket or something.
this what youre looking for? http://www.thetransitionalmale.com/ftmutube.html
Quote from: Elwood on July 19, 2008, 11:13:21 PM
What? Trans guys who don't want to look like guys? Now I'm TOTALLY lost.
Joe, cut your hair, man. Do it for you. Besides, if you wear eyeliner, you'll pass as a girl when you need to. For serious. :-X I know a gay guy who totally looks like a dude when he ain't got make up on.
I always had this question and i never found out why are the men's room always the same in a way?
Modified: I wanted to relate to the topic since it went a little off =D
Sorry, guys...but I though I 'd better just issue a warning about two locations not to visit..
1) Building sites ~ The net result of lots of beans and eggs ~ Highly combustible!... ::)
2) Porta-loos ~ What do guys do when there's no loo paper or hand towels ~ Don't even think about it!... :o
...of course not that I'd know anything about.....
Chrissty
i have to say i really appreciate
the pointers as we have no IRL
resources to help us get things right!!
so i guess the counsel i next give my son
when public washrooms are to be utilized....
act like you belong there to do your business
and then move along ...
AFTER you wash your hands, laddie!
Quote from: Chett on July 22, 2008, 06:00:46 PM
Quote from: Elwood on July 22, 2008, 10:53:33 AM
I was thinking of getting a plain caphiter (not the ones that look like dicks) to use, because it would be faster/easier than always putting my butt on the seat. But I just don't know where I'd put it. I need one that's rubber and can be stuffed into a pocket or something.
this what youre looking for? http://www.thetransitionalmale.com/ftmutube.html
Ah, that seems ideal.
I think the word you are looking for is catheter but do you really want to stick something in your urethra each time? Or do you mean what Elwood posted?
->-bleeped-<-boy
Thank you for the spelling correction.
No, no. I mean an external catheter. But I don't want it to look like a dick, really. Just because that takes up too much space. I want something small and portable that doesn't sit in my pants all day. I'd feel the need to wash it after using it and I think washing a dick in the sink would be a little weird.
Yeah but it might be weird to wash a tube in the sink after you use the bathroom too. :P
Just sayin'
I use the stalls and just wipe my stp down with a bit of toilet paper, just to keep it dry.
I don't imagine I'd wash it every time... then again, I am pretty obsessive compulsive... I might. I won't know until I try it.
I use the Mango 5.5" one fairly exclusively. I don't feel the need to wash it after each use; I usually wash it in the shower once daily. If I'm home I might rinse it more, but it depends.
I need to feel that I'm anatomically correct with my anatomy, so I pack 24/7. Your mileage may vary.
Jay
Packing does not feel anatomically correct to me, because I have a foreign object in my pants. I don't even think phalloplasty would feel anatomically correct for me.
Quote from: Elwood on July 23, 2008, 11:19:38 PM
Packing does not feel anatomically correct to me, because I have a foreign object in my pants. I don't even think phalloplasty would feel anatomically correct for me.
I started making packers when I was in grade school, so to have something that is warm like my body, feels like skin, and feels like a real flaccid penis is real enough for me. I can play with myself and get off as if it were a part of my anatomy. It's all mental, but something I've done since I was a kid.
I understand that it's not the same for other guys and that not all guys like to pack. But for me, the moment I stuck the thing in my shorts I felt normal for the first time. I can reach down and touch myself and I have a realistic feel.
Jay
Quote from: sneakersjay on July 23, 2008, 11:44:59 PM
I can reach down and touch myself and I have a realistic feel.
Jay
just dont be doing that too much in public. :P
I'm obsessing about packing... I want to dish out the cash so I can start feeling like myself but the cheapskate in me says no :D Money related inner conflict
Quote from: Chett on July 24, 2008, 01:09:09 AM
Quote from: sneakersjay on July 23, 2008, 11:44:59 PM
I can reach down and touch myself and I have a realistic feel.
Jay
just dont be doing that too much in public. :P
LOL that's not right
I don't think there's a shame in not using a professional packy. I've been using a sock for about... 4 months? Something like that. I am afraid a dick-looking pack will slip around because I can't suspend it in a pocket like I can with this current method. I don't want something that is constantly pressed against my clitoris or I'll have a lot of vaginal discharge as a result.
Ah, well. I could use socks with SOME of my current underwear, in others they might move around....
I want to start wearing boxers though (I'm still wearing girl underwear), boxers are the only type of underwear I like =/ So I have to buy something to hold my packer still, and then there's me wanting to use my packer to pee too.... How long have you been packing Elwood (if that's not too personal)? And how long after you began figuring things out did you decide to start packing?
I have the man-go and I cant wear that all the time it feels real.. but unless im wearing tight tight pants it moves around.. I cant have the pipe bit in me all the time.. and couldn't try and move it around into the right place when I try and stand to pee as it would look very suspisious so I go into the cubicles where I dont need it as I can sit down.. I want to be able to stand to pee but the man go just doesn't work for me.. I cant have the pipe thing there all the time it would be to annoying. :-[
Other than that I am mostely in and out I always try and use disabled toilets if I can though.
Oh yes and the smell of urine.. *gags*
Quote from: Elwood on July 24, 2008, 07:22:10 PM
I don't think there's a shame in not using a professional packy. I've been using a sock for about... 4 months? Something like that. I am afraid a dick-looking pack will slip around because I can't suspend it in a pocket like I can with this current method. I don't want something that is constantly pressed against my clitoris or I'll have a lot of vaginal discharge as a result.
Plus, accidentally dropping a pair of socks on the men's room floor is way less embarrassing than dropping a rubber dick.
I only use an STP for camping. I use the she-wee and it's too big to carry around all the time, so I just use a stall in the men's room and sit. It would be nice to stand to pee, but I'm not willing to put up with the inconvenience of carrying appliances around all the time.
Dennis
See, I think one than more sock would be a bit much on most guys. It would be over packing, in my opinion.
Technically, I'm wearing girls underwear. But I really don't care. See, first, I like briefs. Guy's briefs. But the fly leaves a hole for the pack to hop out of. So I actually wear two layers for stability. One's "boy shorts" (which look like guy's short-briefs, except the fly on this is fake because this style is made for girls) and over that bikini underwear. The bikini keeps everything in place. I don't sweat to death with this because everything's cotton. Sometimes I'll do it the other way with the bikinis under the boy shorts. Either way, if I work with 2, things remain stable and air can still pass through nicely.
Aaanyway. I've been packing about 4 or 5 months. I really figured out and truly accepted my gender identity sometime a couple months ago. I don't think the two are related.
I'm going on a camping trip soon. But I won't be able to get an STP for it. Oh well. It'll be me and like 5 other FtMs and a few other people.
Quote from: Elwood on July 25, 2008, 05:11:24 PM
Technically, I'm wearing girls underwear. But I really don't care. See, first, I like briefs. Guy's briefs. But the fly leaves a hole for the pack to hop out of.
Hi Elwood..
Just a quick thought... you might be surprised about how many mens
breifs dont have a fly anymore. Also a lot of them are cotton with a
little spandex because, a lot of guys are a different size down below
for the same waist size. Never thought about it before (don't know why?)
but they are ideal for packing. ;D
Obviously we're not talking boxer shorts here, just standard breifs that
look like the're going to have a fly but don't. Why not look more carefully
when your out next, and you might find a way to get down to just
needing one pair.... ;)
...again...don't ask how I know this..... :angel:
:icon_hug:
Chrissty
Also, Hanes makes boxer briefs with no fly and a double panel in front. You can make a slit in the back panel and slip the packer between panels.
Dennis
Quote from: Chrissty on July 26, 2008, 03:26:45 AMQuote from: Elwood on July 25, 2008, 05:11:24 PMTechnically, I'm wearing girls underwear. But I really don't care. See, first, I like briefs. Guy's briefs. But the fly leaves a hole for the pack to hop out of.
Hi Elwood..
Just a quick thought... you might be surprised about how many mens
breifs dont have a fly anymore. Also a lot of them are cotton with a
little spandex because, a lot of guys are a different size down below
for the same waist size. Never thought about it before (don't know why?)
but they are ideal for packing. ;D
Obviously we're not talking boxer shorts here, just standard breifs that
look like the're going to have a fly but don't. Why not look more carefully
when your out next, and you might find a way to get down to just
needing one pair.... ;)
...again...don't ask how I know this..... :angel:
:icon_hug:
Chrissty
Thank you, Chrissty! This is really great. I'm glad you mentioned this. That's exactly what I'm looking for. It sounds like it could be stable, too, and hold the pack in place. It really sounds ideal, and looks the way I want it to. :)
Quote from: Dennis on July 26, 2008, 07:56:41 AMAlso, Hanes makes boxer briefs with no fly and a double panel in front. You can make a slit in the back panel and slip the packer between panels.
Dennis
WOW. Thanks for this information. I had no idea that this even existed. I'll see what I can find... ;D
Doesn't anyone use the salsa lid trick anymore? I did it for years, and it worked pretty well. Took a little practice, though--until you're good at it, wear shoes that you don't care about. ;D
Anyway, if you don't know this trick, you take the lid to a tub of salsa or butter or something, and use scissors to cut it inside the groove so that you have a nice, flat, circular piece of plastic. You might need to file it with a nail file to smooth out the rough edges. When you want to pee, you curl up the lid in a U shape and place one end sorta behind your genitals--don't put it too far front--and hold it SNUGLY to your body. Then you can pee down it like it's an open funnel. But as I said, it takes practice to do it successfully.
Because the lid is plastic, pee does not adhere, and there aren't any nooks and crannies or tubes for the pee to get trapped in. You can just wave stray droplets into the john and slide the lid into your pocket or wherever you want to keep it. If you grab a few squares of TP for yourself, you can use some on the lid if you want to. Or you could slide the lid into a homemade sleeve or a folded hanky or something.
I can't remember where I picked up this trick. I'm pretty sure it wasn't in Lou Sullivan's "Information" book.
I never ran into trouble when using the men's room. But the ladies' room--no end of trouble and nasty looks and rude comments. I scared the heck out of quite a few gals. Some of them even scampered out of the women's restroom before they had a chance to use the facilities. They would hang around outside until I left. One gal saw me (I was just leaving) and was so shocked to find HERSELF in the wrong place that she promptly apologized, exited, and marched into the gents' without looking at the sign. I got out of there fast. I can only imagine the scene...I'm sure that when she saw the urinals in the men's room, she must have figured it out, but I had raced out of the building by then.
Such lovely memories. And now I want to go back to all of that? I must be mad.
No, I'm finally finding sanity after years of suppression.
How I wish there were lots of unisex bathrooms in this country.
I keep meaning to try the plastic lid thing. I think I saw it on a website, can't remember. It does seem like it'd be easier to carry, and easier to shake or wipe off than my stp.
Dennis
Quote from: Dennis on July 30, 2008, 08:57:57 AM
I keep meaning to try the plastic lid thing. I think I saw it on a website, can't remember. It does seem like it'd be easier to carry, and easier to shake or wipe off than my stp.
Dennis
I still use that once in a while. It is really easy to carry and a good shake can do the trick to keep it dry. Good for when I am to lazy to pack with my stp.
I don't mind sitting to pee, to be honest. It's the least of my worries.