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Poll
Question: Are you in a significant personal relationship and if so, how would you describe it, clinicaly speaking?
Option 1: F2M-GG votes: 8
Option 2: F2M-GB votes: 3
Option 3: F2M-F2M votes: 2
Option 4: F2M-M2F votes: 1
Option 5: F2M-Androgyne votes: 0
Option 6: M2F-Androgyne votes: 0
Option 7: M2F-GB votes: 14
Option 8: M2F-GG votes: 19
Option 9: GG-GB votes: 1
Option 10: GG-GG votes: 0
Option 11: GB-GB votes: 0
Option 12: Other votes: 11
Option 13: Not in a relationship but would like to be votes: 36
Option 14: Not in a relationship and not interested in being in one votes: 8
Option 15: M2F-M2F votes: 2
Option 16: IS-GG votes: 0
Option 17: IS-GB votes: 0
Option 18: IS-F2M votes: 0
Option 19: IS-Androgyne votes: 0
Option 20: IS-M2F votes: 0
Option 21: GG-Androgyne votes: 2
Option 22: GB-Androgyne votes: 0
Title: Relationships?
Post by: heatherrose on June 24, 2009, 06:41:06 PM


If you chose "Other", Please elaborate.

At the start I voted
I am not currently in a relationship
but would like to be.  :-\

Now things have changed
I can't change my vote but anyway...

M2F-M2F

Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: Janet_Girl on June 24, 2009, 07:02:48 PM
I really want a relationship, but no one seems interested in little old me.  If I express an interest, they are gone.  I let them know from the get go that I am trans, and then they just want sex.  I just want a loving caring relationship without sex, for now. 

I should just give up and be the crazy lady on the corner with all the cats.


Janet
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: Miniar on June 24, 2009, 07:04:02 PM
I'm married to a wonderful GBloke.
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: Windrider on June 24, 2009, 07:58:57 PM
Other. I call my relationship "married" ;P Once Dani completes her transition, our relationship will be seen as lesbian, but personally I don't care what other people think :)

Quote from: Janet Lynn on June 24, 2009, 07:02:48 PM
I should just give up and be the crazy lady on the corner with all the cats.
Janet

Heh, I thought that too...then Dani walked into my life and here I am! :)

WR
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: phantom_heart on June 24, 2009, 08:05:06 PM
I am married to Adrianna. I am married to a woman!!! :) So i guess that makes me lesbian whoot lol
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: Ellieka on June 24, 2009, 08:20:46 PM
I'm technically still married to a GG but the divorce papers have already been filed. We get along ok for the most part. I hate to see it end because I love her but I'm about 80% sure my next relationship, way in the future, will be with either another transperson or genetic male.
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: Steph on June 24, 2009, 08:22:48 PM
I'm in a wonderful relationship with a wonderful GM.  Believe it or not we met online and it was love at first sight.  He knows everything of my past and we have been living together for the past 5 months.  He asked me to marry him and we plan to wed early next year.

-={LR}=-
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: Flan on June 24, 2009, 08:24:48 PM
Just another relationship black sheep reporting in.

I can dream about it all I want, but that won't change the fact that it's all in my head. (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg144.imageshack.us%2Fimg144%2F6059%2Fsmokinyk1.gif&hash=3af73078efd8cbbcc45f6ab8554b2ecf777faa3a)
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: Janet_Girl on June 24, 2009, 08:30:56 PM
Quote from: Flan on June 24, 2009, 08:24:48 PM
I can dream about it all I want, but that won't change the fact that it's all in my head. (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg144.imageshack.us%2Fimg144%2F6059%2Fsmokinyk1.gif&hash=3af73078efd8cbbcc45f6ab8554b2ecf777faa3a)

Exactly my position.
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: Kimberly on June 24, 2009, 09:38:41 PM
Other, but that is mostly just because multiple person relationships seems to be an almost foreign concept. *shrug*
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: Just Kate on June 24, 2009, 09:47:14 PM
I consider myself M2F despite my choice not to transition and am married to a GG.  I would describe it as fairly typical for a relationship except my wife isn't threatened by my more feminine aspects and allows me to cry when my GID is eating me.
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: Lisbeth on June 24, 2009, 09:49:47 PM
Quote from: heatherrose on June 24, 2009, 06:41:06 PM
If you chose "Other", Please elaborate.

One you left out: M2F-M2F.
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: Mister on June 24, 2009, 10:31:56 PM
i chose other.  my relationship is male-female.
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: heatherrose on June 24, 2009, 10:42:12 PM



Quote from: Lisbeth on June 24, 2009, 09:49:47 PM
One you left out: M2F-M2F.


No I didn't...did I? Well, how did that...?


Problem solved.
Thanks for bringing that
to my attention.



Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: Lisbeth on June 25, 2009, 12:38:56 AM
Quote from: heatherrose on June 24, 2009, 10:42:12 PM
Problem solved.
Thanks for bringing that
to my attention.

You're welcome. But now it won't let me change my vote.
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: Hypatia on June 25, 2009, 01:22:15 AM
I was a bit surprised to find myself in the most populated type of relationship here: MTF-GG. How would I describe it? Lesbian. We both identify as lesbian. You keep hearing how the majority of trans women are supposed to be heterosexual. I'm just not seeing it, though. Not around here, anyway. Maybe the hetero gals flock to other forums, I don't know. Lesbian trans women have often been disparaged as inauthentic. For that matter, I was also surprised that so far no one has selected FTM-GG, as I've gotten the impression that this is very prevalent in the FTM world. I could be mistaken. Maybe it's just the small sample size so far.
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: Just Kate on June 25, 2009, 01:23:43 AM
Quote from: Hypatia on June 25, 2009, 01:22:15 AM
I was a bit surprised to find myself in the most populated type of relationship here: MTF-GG. How would I describe it? Lesbian. We both identify as lesbian. You keep hearing how the majority of trans women are supposed to be heterosexual. I'm just not seeing it, though. Not around here, anyway. Maybe the hetero gals flock to other forums, I don't know.

Weird I have always heard it was the opposite - that the majority of MTF were gynephilic.
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: Mister on June 25, 2009, 01:28:59 AM
Quote from: Hypatia on June 25, 2009, 01:22:15 AM
For that matter, I was also surprised that so far no one has selected FTM-GG, as I've gotten the impression that this is very prevalent in the FTM world. I could be mistaken. Maybe it's just the small sample size so far.

Around here, that's how most people would list my relationship.  But like I said, my lady and I see our relationship as male-female, nothing less.
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: heatherrose on June 25, 2009, 02:13:45 AM



I understand that in this "community" that descriptive terms are debatable.
I hope that this doesn't descend into a debate over descriptive terms. It is not
my intent, in the form or content of the options available to offend anyone.

Though I consider myself to be a woman, I know that I am not a Genetic Girl.
So, IF I were involved in a relationship with or married to a woman, born female,
I would consider it a "lesbian" relationship. From a clinical view point,
for the purposes of this poll I would answer M2F-GG

Thank-you for your support.



Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: V M on June 25, 2009, 02:26:00 AM
In many ways I'd like to find that special someone. And there are those who show interest. Both male and female. But mostly males lately. Maybe because my boobs are becoming rather obvious and I go bra less most of the time. I'm not sure. Ever meet a "dumb blonde" that is a bit more intelligent than you expected? Anyway, I'm not sure that I want to deal with another person in my life or not  ??? But that need to be snuggled does haunt me. Someone with their arms around me and kissing my neck. I better stop there  :icon_chick:
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: mickie88 on June 25, 2009, 06:24:57 PM
i want a relationship, but don't need one right now. i have too much drama in my life right now and sure as hell don't want it to implode on anyone else. we all know my orientation so i won't bother posting it so i don't "refresh" peoples memories of too much of me.  i'm admired by both "recognized" genders(maybe a few others).

is the unicorn suppose to represent Androgynes??? i dunno so i am asking to be sure
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: Janet_Girl on June 25, 2009, 06:36:21 PM
Quote from: Virginia Marie on June 25, 2009, 02:26:00 AM
Someone with their arms around me and kissing my neck. I better stop there  :icon_chick:

Virginia,
Have you been peeking at my dreams, again?  Because they all start that way and then........ :icon_redface:

Janet
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: heatherrose on June 25, 2009, 06:47:44 PM



Quote from: The Only Warrior Princess Mekayla on June 25, 2009, 06:24:57 PMis the unicorn suppose to represent Androgynes??? i dunno so i am asking to be sure


Yes, I got it from a thread that mentioned "The Unicorn Forest"
If some find this reference offensive, let me know
and I will rephrase the option.



Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: heatherrose on June 25, 2009, 08:36:42 PM



Sure, as long as they or their SO is either Gender Dysphoric,
Intersexed or some variation thereof.

...and their fangs don't end up in a respondants neck

...without permission.


Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: V M on June 25, 2009, 08:47:40 PM
Quote from: heatherrose on June 25, 2009, 08:36:42 PM



Sure, as long as they or their SO is either Gender Dysphoric,
Intersexed or some variation thereof.

...and their fangs don't end up in a respondants neck

...without permission.


What if you have to pull their fangs out of your butt cheek?  :laugh: >:-) :laugh:
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: heatherrose on June 25, 2009, 09:10:23 PM



Was it a consensual "mauling"?



Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: V M on June 25, 2009, 09:22:19 PM
Quote from: heatherrose on June 25, 2009, 09:10:23 PM



Was it a consensual "mauling"?



:laugh: >:-) :laugh: Runs to get some P-towels to clean up the spirted coffee  :laugh:
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: fae_reborn on June 25, 2009, 09:35:55 PM
Other.  It's a toss-up between "Not in a relationship but would like to be in one" and "Not in a relationship and not interested in one."

Janet, Flan, Virginia...I'm right there with you girls.  :D

Right now I'm just trying to get my life together post-college, figure out where my life is going career-wise, saving money, and improve/grow my relationship with my family.  Just a little too much right now, but if the right woman wants to come along and join the madness, then I'll try and fit you in.  ;)
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: heatherrose on June 25, 2009, 09:59:03 PM



Quote from: Fae on June 25, 2009, 09:35:55 PMJanet, Flan, Virginia...I'm right there with you girls.  :D

That's OK I'm used to being "chopped liver" :'(

Quote from: Fae on June 25, 2009, 09:35:55 PMRight now I'm just trying to get my life together post-college, figure out where my life is going career-wise, saving money, and improve/grow my relationship with my family.  Just a little too much right now, but if the right woman wants to come along and join the madness, then I'll and fit you in.

I'm pretty much in the same boat except, I have been talking to
someone that I like a lot but I don't think I can deal with lunacy X2.

:icon_woowoo:  :icon_confused2:  :icon_headache: :eusa_think:  :icon_blink:


Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: fae_reborn on June 25, 2009, 10:02:32 PM
Quote from: heatherrose on June 25, 2009, 09:59:03 PM



That's OK I'm used to being "chopped liver" :'(



*hugs* I am sorry hun, I didn't mean to leave out any of the other singles.  :-*
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: heatherrose on June 25, 2009, 10:04:10 PM



Quote from: Virginia Marie on June 25, 2009, 09:22:19 PM:laugh: >:-) :laugh: Runs to get some P-towels to clean up the spurted coffee  :laugh:


Didn't mean to choke you up, Gurfren.  ;D


Quote from: Fae on June 25, 2009, 10:02:32 PM
*hugs* I am sorry hun...


No worries, Babe.   ;)



Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: V M on June 25, 2009, 10:35:04 PM
No worries  :laugh: I wasn't choked up, I thought that was a good one  :laugh: And you are not chopped liver {{{HUGS}}}
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: FairyGirl on June 25, 2009, 10:37:25 PM
Quote from: Matilda on June 25, 2009, 07:39:05 PM
How about other members from the Otherkin community?  Are they allowed to participate in the poll?

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi572.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss161%2Fmatilda23%2F061.gif&hash=8f2301193b0dc73bb2e3c64f938f2048ea1a0591)
tha's okay Matilda, I'm a fairy and a girl and I voted anyways. Elves like to say oh there is no difference,  but I notice they are always quick to correct anyone that calls them fairies. I like dragons okay because they are kind of classy, but not so crazy about centaurs, if you know what I mean.

(No offense to any centaurs in the group; I'm sure that pheremone thing you got going works well on each other. :embarrassed:)
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: Janet_Girl on June 25, 2009, 10:43:55 PM
As a member of the Kindard I voted.  We have rights too, you know.

Janet
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: Chaunte on June 25, 2009, 11:19:06 PM
Quote from: Janet Lynn on June 24, 2009, 07:02:48 PM
I really want a relationship, but no one seems interested in little old me.  If I express an interest, they are gone.  I let them know from the get go that I am trans, and then they just want sex.  I just want a loving caring relationship without sex, for now. 

I should just give up and be the crazy lady on the corner with all the cats.


Janet

One thing I miss is companionship.  Not sex - I think I am part Vulcan in that regard. 

Either way, I need to get my "ex" to finally divorce me before I can do much of anything!  (NY State views my transition as me wronging her.  As such, I have to wait for her to divorce me - and she won't.)

Shauna
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: V M on June 25, 2009, 11:31:24 PM
Quote from: FairyGirl on June 25, 2009, 10:37:25 PM
tha's okay Matilda, I'm a fairy and a girl and I voted anyways. Elves like to say oh there is no difference,  but I notice they are always quick to correct anyone that calls them fairies. I like dragons okay because they are kind of classy, but not so crazy about centaurs, if you know what I mean.

(No offense to any centaurs in the group; I'm sure that pheremone thing you got going works well on each other. :embarrassed:)
How 'bout Iguanas? they look kinda like a dragon and will run pretty fast when prompted. But they def. need a custom designer saddle
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: FairyGirl on June 25, 2009, 11:38:17 PM
Quote from: Virginia Marie on June 25, 2009, 11:31:24 PM
How 'bout Iguanas? they look kinda like a dragon and will run pretty fast when prompted. But they def. need a custom designer saddle

lol check your pm's  :laugh:
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: Kimberly on June 26, 2009, 01:08:53 AM
I never had any luck looking it up, but what is "UNICORN" supposed to mean in this context ?
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: V M on June 26, 2009, 02:09:11 AM
Quote from: Kimberly on June 26, 2009, 01:08:53 AM
I never had any luck looking it up, but what is "UNICORN" supposed to mean in this context ?
Yeah...right. And you didn't know that the unicorn is an androgyne symbol. Snarky Snarky Snarky Snark  :laugh: >:-) :angel: :P
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: FairyGirl on June 26, 2009, 10:10:35 AM
Quote from: Virginia Marie on June 26, 2009, 02:09:11 AM
Yeah...right. And you didn't know that the unicorn is an androgyne symbol. Snarky Snarky Snarky Snark  :laugh: >:-) :angel: :P
and little transgirls are mermaids  (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cosgan.de%2Fimages%2Fsmilie%2Ftiere%2Fc055.gif&hash=831ac53907c3919808e6afdaef96742b0bf4fb94)
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: tekla on June 26, 2009, 10:34:06 AM
and little transgirls are mermaids

That explains that kind of brine and seaweed smell then.
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: FairyGirl on June 26, 2009, 10:42:11 AM
Quote from: tekla on June 26, 2009, 10:34:06 AM
and little transgirls are mermaids

That explains that kind of brine and seaweed smell then.

that would be your underwear, Tekla.  :P
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: tekla on June 26, 2009, 10:43:47 AM
Fooled you, I didn't wear any.
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: Kimberly on June 26, 2009, 02:19:00 PM
Quote from: Virginia Marie on June 26, 2009, 02:09:11 AM
Yeah...right. And you didn't know that the unicorn is an androgyne symbol. Snarky Snarky Snarky Snark  :laugh: >:-) :angel: :P
Ah, so unicorn in this context refers to androgyne then? Thank you kindly.
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: Rinneko on June 27, 2009, 05:42:06 PM
I'm with everyone else in the "Not in, but do want" line. xD Frankly, since I'm tossing the idea of joining the female side of things, I'm a bit wary of getting into a relationship. >w> Rinne can't deal with heartbreak too well.
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: heatherrose on June 27, 2009, 05:55:27 PM



Quote from: Rinneko on June 27, 2009, 05:42:06 PMRinne can't deal with heartbreak too well.


~knees knocking together~

I'm with you girl.
Mine or their's.




Post Merge: June 28, 2009, 03:24:42 AM




Quote from: Janet Lynn on June 25, 2009, 10:43:55 PMWe have rights too, you know.


Ya, I know but it's the lefts you gotta watch out for.

:icon_punch:



Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: Butterfly on June 28, 2009, 06:41:17 AM
I'm in a LTR with a wonderful cisgendered male.

Quote from: Hypatia on June 25, 2009, 01:22:15 AM
I was a bit surprised to find myself in the most populated type of relationship here: MTF-GG. How would I describe it? Lesbian. We both identify as lesbian. You keep hearing how the majority of trans women are supposed to be heterosexual. I'm just not seeing it, though. Not around here, anyway. Maybe the hetero gals flock to other forums, I don't know.

We spoke a tad too soon there, did we not?
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: Hypatia on June 28, 2009, 01:58:34 PM
Well what took you so long to get to the party? The drinks and chips are almost gone.
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: Valentina on July 02, 2009, 02:23:37 PM
I knocked on the door & there was no answer.  The party must be over & everybody must be gone by now :laugh:
Another hetero girl here involved in a relationship with a marvelous bloke from my university.  It's fun to study & do our projects together.
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: myles on July 02, 2009, 06:21:21 PM
Another late comer. Guy with a girl, that is how I define it.
Cheers,
Myes
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: Tammy Hope on July 02, 2009, 07:27:53 PM
Quote from: Shauna Marie on June 25, 2009, 11:19:06 PM
One thing I miss is companionship.  Not sex - I think I am part Vulcan in that regard. 

Either way, I need to get my "ex" to finally divorce me before I can do much of anything!  (NY State views my transition as me wronging her.  As such, I have to wait for her to divorce me - and she won't.)

Shauna

Wow.

that seems a pretty unfortunate arrangement for a state open enough to be dealing with gay marriage.
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: Genevieve Swann on July 02, 2009, 07:37:06 PM
I'm not presently in a relationship. I do have my eyes on a cute frenchmen. Serge Dupond. Maybe he knows how to treat a lady and buy me lots of sexy shoes. Just joking about the shoe thing but I wouldn't say no.
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: Nicky on July 02, 2009, 07:43:23 PM
non-binary almost girl with a GG.
But really I would define us as a married couple, best friends, companions, lovers, parents to our kids, a pea and a nut sitting happily in a pod.

I guess you could say androgyne - GG though I don't identify as androgyne that much these days. Happy to wear the unicorn badge though, and the head band with the horn on it.  ;D
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: Walter on July 05, 2009, 01:28:32 AM
Not in a relationship right now
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: tekla on July 05, 2009, 03:20:40 AM
Either way, I need to get my "ex" to finally divorce me before I can do much of anything! 

that seems a pretty unfortunate arrangement for a state open enough to be dealing with gay marriage.


Getting married is - often - way too easy.  Getting divorced is much more complicated.  As signing the contract (which is what marriage is) is very easy, getting out of one (which is what divorce is) is very hard.

But, as guys say, "You know why divorces are so expensive?  Because they are worth it."
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: V M on July 05, 2009, 03:54:31 AM
There is a reason why marriage is referred to as an institution  :laugh: >:-) :laugh:
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: Cindy on July 05, 2009, 04:01:05 AM
Leslie
With deepest respect. Is your avatar having a wee? :embarrassed: :embarrassed:

Not a problem we all need to go sometime. :laugh:

Please Honey a joke

Cindy
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: Cindy on July 05, 2009, 04:45:05 AM
Yes Honey Bunch
I was MtF with a GG

Totally accurate and completly imprecise.

Tickle

Cindey
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: Bombi on July 05, 2009, 10:50:30 AM
I'm really late to the party and checking the ashtrays for roaches.
Androgyne with a GG who loves champagne
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: Debra on August 30, 2009, 06:34:38 PM
guess I dont really count because my wife will leave me if I start transitioning but for now I am in a 5 yr marriage with a GG
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: SarahFaceDoom on September 01, 2009, 03:09:39 AM
lesbian relationship.  she thinks I'm beautiful, and vice versa.
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: Jay on September 01, 2009, 04:13:26 AM
I used to be in a relationship with a GG about 15 months ago.. no luck since :(

QuoteNot in a relationship but would like to be

:-\

Jay
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: omega1251 on September 11, 2009, 05:44:05 AM
I'm in a loving relationship with my gf (GG) who helped me through this entire process. <3
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: LightlyLuke on October 12, 2009, 02:00:37 PM
I chose "Other."

I'm an adrogyne married to an androgyne.
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: Deanna_Renee on October 12, 2009, 11:11:08 PM
I also voted "not in, but wanting to be", but not really at this time.

Ummm... I guess I probably should have voted for "not in one, and not wanting one", but either one is really not accurate. I have always wanted to be in a relationship - with a GG - but the dysphoria always got in the way of things. I would love to be in a relationship, but the thought of going through transition while in a relationship seems far too cruel a thing to put someone through.

I have always been interested in girls/women and still am. Have never had the slightest interest in males. Now, I don't really know. I still love the idea of being with a woman, but there is something in there that is starting to wonder about the possibility of being with a man after I transition. Another reason to not want to get involved.

I really don't know!

*BTW - SarahFaceDoom, I think you're beautiful too (assuming the avatar is you)*  :)

Deanna
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: SarahFaceDoom on October 13, 2009, 04:29:22 AM
my avatar is me.  If it wasn't, it would be a picture of Anna Karina.
so fanks.
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: disdwarf on January 23, 2010, 09:25:52 PM
Never been in a relationship and mostly a virgin (I'm a lesbian and 28yrs old).
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: V M on January 23, 2010, 09:39:11 PM
If you get into a relationship.....Always keep a ping pong paddle and water sprayer handy  :laugh: >:-) :laugh:
Title: Re: Relationships?
Post by: MICHELLE192 on January 30, 2010, 05:28:11 AM
I had to vote m2f-gg.  I consider myself m2f for close to 25 years I felt like a girl trapped in another body I never did anything to change that due to fear.  When I was younger and it was more sexual I was with guys; however, when it became more emotional guys would not cut it.  When I found out I could get the emotional side and phyiscal side from a women with the right toy I stopped dating guys but still look from time to time.  I have been married for 18 years with a bi-sexual gg.