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Poll
Question: What's your opinion on Twilight?
Option 1: OMG I FREAKING LOVE IT!!! EDWARD CULLEN IS TEH SEX!!! votes: 6
Option 2: It was pretty good. votes: 10
Option 3: I liked the books, the movies sucked. votes: 3
Option 4: I don't like it. votes: 11
Option 5: EWW SPARKLY VAMPIRES FAILLLLL! votes: 22
Option 6: I don't care. votes: 14
Option 7: It had its good points, but parts of it were really disturbing. votes: 9
Title: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Ryuu on December 12, 2009, 12:01:02 PM
I know a range of different people, all with their own views on the sparkling bloodsucker phenomenon, from my school's resident fanatic, to the complete Twilight-haters. So what's your opinion?
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: tekla on December 12, 2009, 12:14:43 PM
Thanks but no thanks on the sparkle - what are they, David Bowie Vamps? - I'll stick with Bella Lugosi, even though he's dead.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Hannah on December 12, 2009, 12:58:49 PM
I could possibly think of some good uses for those novels, there's bird cages, guinea pig linings, the fireplace of course, or gifts to people who don't normally read and have contracted minds as a result.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Ryuu on December 12, 2009, 01:59:15 PM
I saw something on my twilight-hating aunt's Facebook page: a link to a news story about heroin bags with Twilight characters on them being found. xD
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Arch on December 12, 2009, 02:24:24 PM
Quote from: tekla on December 12, 2009, 12:14:43 PM
I'll stick with Bella Lugosi, even though he's dead.

Bela Lugosi's not dead; he's undead.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: tekla on December 12, 2009, 03:33:23 PM
I did an interview with Peter Murry once when I was working a string of shows with him (he wrote, Bella Lugosi's Dead) and coined the term 'goth' to describe what he was doing.  I ought to dig it up, as it turns out he thinks everyone got it way wrong.  Twilight is only proof of that.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Lachlann on December 12, 2009, 03:53:11 PM
I find it gives a very disturbing message. Doing your own take on vamps is one thing, but it's the underlying messages that kind of creep me out.

...also I laughed through the second movie so much. I didn't see much of the first.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Ryuu on December 12, 2009, 08:08:10 PM
I've heard so much about the second movie... at first I didn't want to see it, but now I want to just to make fun of it.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Lachlann on December 12, 2009, 09:49:39 PM
Quote from: Alistair on December 12, 2009, 09:44:09 PM
Other than the fact that Robert Pattinson is a handsome fellow, Twilight has absolutely nothing going for it.

I am also quite annoyed by the fact no one is allowed to use the word "twilight" anymore without people immediately thinking about the stories/movies.

Same here. Twilight is an awesome word, but it makes for a bad book and movie.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Ryuu on December 13, 2009, 12:25:31 AM
There were so many things that disturbed me when I read it... and even more so when I watched the movie. I actually read all 4 books. I think I'm going to go see the movie at some point just to mock it. xD
And I'll definitely have to watch Breaking Dawn, just to see how they do it... :O
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Luc on December 13, 2009, 01:30:30 AM
The ONLY good thing about the Twilight movies is Kristen Stewart. However, after the abysmal first movie, which I'm ashamed to say I watched, she's not even enough motivation for me to see another one.

Oh, and the books? Everything I've read about them says Stephenie Meyer is functionally illiterate. No thank you. Yet another prime example of the stupidity of the masses.

SD
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: aubrey on December 13, 2009, 02:08:59 AM
I thought it was o.k. it was fun to watch. Some of it was silly but who cares it's just a movie. But then again I like silly pop songs too. Uh oh I can hear the hipsters weeping now.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: insanitylives on December 16, 2009, 03:01:26 PM
...why did you bring the topic that attracts screaming 14 year old girls with enormous crushes on edward whatsitcalled to this forum?


Really....
The books were *ok*, at best, but I flat refuse to watch the movie and add to the hysteria.

That and vampires should, i dunno, actually do something.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Jester on December 18, 2009, 08:53:05 AM
My opinion is negative.  Negative indeed.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Miniar on December 18, 2009, 09:17:09 AM
The sparklyness aside...

It's misogynistic and disgusting.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Jester on December 19, 2009, 10:43:55 AM
Remember when vampires were unrelenting creatures of the purest form of indulgence?  Murder, decadence, bisexuality and sexual avarice?

I miss when vampires were monsters that reflected the parts of our own psyche that we don't like to acknowledge, rather than pathetic allegories for the imagined problems of teenagers.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Kurzar on December 19, 2009, 10:50:41 AM
Saw the 1st one and it was meh. NOT a vampire movie as far as I am concerned. I love vampire stuff but this is NOT even close.  I'm also a werewolf nut, but not sure I'll be seeing the 2nd movie....if I do I'm not paying for it...I'll rip it free online lol
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Silver on December 19, 2009, 11:08:30 AM
Didn't read it. Honestly, my poor brain probably doesn't deserve that kind of torture.

From what I've heard of the plot and writing, no thanks. Not into "romances" anyway.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Rachel Bellefountaine on March 06, 2010, 11:06:25 AM
I'll admit it. I enjoyed the books. However, the Twilight movie was so poorly done that I flat out refused to go see New Moon in the theater.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Fenrir on March 06, 2010, 07:58:45 PM
I've got a friend who made me watch both movies while she sat there in a 'Team Edward' t-shirt and went all googly-eyed whenever he came on screen. I mercilessly took the mick out of them all the way through, of course. :P (Hey, when you've got a friend as fangirlish as that you've got no choice but to wind them up about it!)
Yeah, the movies were pretty shocking, though oddly not as bad as I'd expected because they were so easy to make fun of. The werewolf guy was cool until he cut his hair, after which he just looked like a dodgy porn star, in my opinion. That's not a major spoiler so I don't feel bad about posting it here. There were worse things but I'll stave off my complaints for now, in case there ARE any Twilight fans here who somehow haven't seen it.  ;D
I read maybe half of the first book and throughout it I was just thinking he's a stalker. He's such a stalker. He's a massive stalker and OH GOD WHY IS HE WATCHING HER WHILE SHE SLEEPS, THAT'S JUST CREEPY so no, didn't think much of the books either. I agree with many here, Stephanie Meyer is an appalling writer.
Now let us hope my fangirly friend doesn't stumble across this...  :D
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: lizbeth on March 06, 2010, 08:49:25 PM






<-- doesn't care
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Arch on March 07, 2010, 04:31:49 PM
I was out book shopping with a buddy the other day when he picked up Twilight and read the first line aloud. We laughed ourselves silly.

Not an auspicious beginning.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Flan on March 07, 2010, 04:36:24 PM
Quote from: Arch on March 07, 2010, 04:31:49 PM
I was out book shopping with a buddy the other day when he picked up Twilight and read the first line aloud. We laughed ourselves silly.

Not an auspicious beginning.

dood, it's got like horny emo teens! what's not cool about that!
/me squees
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg144.imageshack.us%2Fimg144%2F2394%2Fsarclg1.gif&hash=5bfea3056c28b2e905f4cbc3e95d02a684d13ebf)
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Arch on March 07, 2010, 04:43:25 PM
Quote from: FlanHusky on March 07, 2010, 04:36:24 PM
dood, it's got like horny emo teens! what's not cool about that!

Oh, dear. I was about to say something smart-alecky about Lucas Silveira taking over as Edward Whatsisname.

Oops. Guess I just said it. :o
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: childofwinter on March 07, 2010, 04:51:21 PM
I'm a big fan of the actress who plays Renee in the movies, but even if she was in half or more of the film I wouldn't watch them. I find the books to be very badly written as well.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Arch on March 07, 2010, 04:57:04 PM
Quote from: childofwinter on March 07, 2010, 04:51:21 PM
I find the books to be very badly written as well.

For a lark, I just looked up and read the first few pages of Twilight on Amazon. That's five minutes I'll never get back. Did she not have an editor?

If anyone here admires passive verbs and vapid prose, by all means go for it. I think I'll pass.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Byren on March 07, 2010, 05:59:15 PM
Quote from: Arch on March 07, 2010, 04:57:04 PM
For a lark, I just looked up and read the first few pages of Twilight on Amazon. That's five minutes I'll never get back. Did she not have an editor?

While it's sad that she is such a horrible writer, what's even worse is that so many people think she's a good one. I've heard teens and old women going on about how talented she is. *GAG*

I thought the first book was cute, but certainly nothing special. It was just another teen romance (I won't quantify it as a VAMPIRE romance, as in my opinion, one must have fangs to qualify as a vampire. I guess that just makes it a cannibal romance...hehe). I liked the character of Jacob in the second book, because he at least came across as a person. I gave up on them after that.

Don't even get me started on the movies. The director needs to be drawn and quartered. I'm shocked that such an inexperienced person was allowed to touch such a high-popularity project. Not that it seems to have mattered to the fans, though....

*shrug*
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 07, 2010, 05:59:43 PM
That first paragraph is dodgy, dodgy stuff isn't it?
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: PaulyD on March 07, 2010, 07:40:44 PM
Okay, Im going to go against the popular opinion here and say I have thoroughly enjoyed the movies.  I have not read the books so i cant comment on them.

But as a movie in and of itself i enjoyed them thoroughly. For all the guys on here an action flick fans. The second is actually more in tuned with that as there are many more action scenes and "fight" scenes which hey was not my cup of tea but still enjoyed.

Okay this is all you can all go on hating it again :)
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Arch on March 07, 2010, 08:56:46 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on March 07, 2010, 05:59:43 PM
That first paragraph is dodgy, dodgy stuff isn't it?
How funny. That's exactly the word I was writing when I decided to go with "vapid" instead.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Alex_I_Think on March 09, 2010, 11:23:47 AM
I actually enjoyed a couple of the books... The hype over the movies and the actor who plays Edward just went waaaaay overboard. Stalker fangirls creep me out.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 09, 2010, 01:52:28 PM
That first paragraph contains that cliche of young teen going to strange new town and a list of clothing - Vapid is a very good word. However, there must be something we're missing and one day when the hype dies down, if people are still considering worth reading without the encouragement of omnipresence, I may give 'em a go.... You can tell how solid a base a fad had by how many copies a charity shop has five years later.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Arch on March 09, 2010, 02:09:22 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on March 09, 2010, 01:52:28 PM
You can tell how solid a base a fad had by how many copies a charity shop has five years later.

Actually, my bud and I were IN a thrift store--not a cheesy one but a very nice one--when he picked up that book and regaled me with the first line. And there were many copies of the DVD and books in the series. Plus about a million VHS copies of Top Gun. :P
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 09, 2010, 02:34:42 PM
always get hear'say, steps and bluetones albums here.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Lachlann on March 09, 2010, 02:53:42 PM
Quote from: PaulyD on March 07, 2010, 07:40:44 PM
Okay, Im going to go against the popular opinion here and say I have thoroughly enjoyed the movies.  I have not read the books so i cant comment on them.

But as a movie in and of itself i enjoyed them thoroughly. For all the guys on here an action flick fans. The second is actually more in tuned with that as there are many more action scenes and "fight" scenes which hey was not my cup of tea but still enjoyed.

Okay this is all you can all go on hating it again :)

I thought the action that it had was pretty lame in itself. I mean it's not like transformers where you know the story is going to be horrid, but the action will actually be decent or good.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: PaulyD on March 10, 2010, 11:32:35 AM


Quote from: Lachlann on March 09, 2010, 02:53:42 PM
I thought the action that it had was pretty lame in itself. I mean it's not like transformers where you know the story is going to be horrid, but the action will actually be decent or good.
I wasn't a big fan of it either, but in comparison to the first one it seemed to be more of a "guys version" in that, I loved twilight. I loved the story and all of the above loved it. Where as my bf, wont admit he liked either movie but because i dragged him to both was able to admit..in comparison to the first it fit his interest better. thats not to say he actually liked it though if that makes sense?
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Rock_chick on March 13, 2010, 09:25:53 PM
Urrrrrgh...supernatural romance.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Rammstein on March 20, 2010, 11:12:07 AM
I've always enjoyed vampire movies and books, but I hate "Twilight". My bf took me to see it and we were both really embarrassed, annoyed and disappointed.
But I have not read the books and I have not seen the sequel. Frankly, I don't want to either. 
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Arch on March 20, 2010, 04:27:05 PM
Quote from: Rock_chick on March 13, 2010, 09:25:53 PM
Urrrrrgh...supernatural romance.
That sort of describes Dracula, on one level at least. And a whole host of gothic stuff from years gone by.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Rock_chick on March 20, 2010, 05:27:00 PM
Good point...tho dracula has a bit more of the supernatural and less of the romance. Infact thinking about it it's more supernatural lust, def something to do with being written in victorian times.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Samantha_Peterson on March 20, 2010, 09:57:17 PM
Horrible plot, bad character representation and VAMPIRES DO NOT SPARKLE!!!!
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Arch on March 22, 2010, 07:39:25 PM
Quote from: Samantha_Peterson on March 20, 2010, 09:57:17 PM
VAMPIRES DO NOT SPARKLE!!!!

I thought they used that sparkle to distract their prey...
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Silver on March 26, 2010, 06:10:04 AM
You know, this was confirmed by my friend who reads Twilight books. In the third one Edward rips his girlfriends uterus open with his teeth to get the baby out.

I might see the third movie just for that. Nah, I'll probably just ask him what they did. Not worth $10.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: T-I-Double-Guhrr on April 17, 2010, 03:20:22 AM
Meh...black sheep here... not a big fan of the first, but I liked the second, mostly Jacob\wolf scenes.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Chloe on April 17, 2010, 09:34:16 AM
QuoteIt had its good points, but parts of it were really disturbing

Don't get it! WHY are these two guys - Edward & Jacob - so enamored and fighting over this girl Bella who, to my tastes at least, is otherwise one class A dissatisfied/dissatisfying pain in the arse!
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Victoria L. on April 17, 2010, 09:59:43 AM
I have neither read nor watched Twilight, so I don't really have an opinion. But I do have to believe that this series receives a lot of unfounded hatred. It's the cool thing to hate on Twilight right now. =/

I have no interest in it at all, though. I've never liked vampires or werewolves. But my opinion will stay neutral because I hate it when people form opinions over things they haven't even given a chance.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Lachlann on April 17, 2010, 10:09:31 AM
Quote from: Emily on April 17, 2010, 09:59:43 AM
I have neither read nor watched Twilight, so I don't really have an opinion. But I do have to believe that this series receives a lot of unfounded hatred. It's the cool thing to hate on Twilight right now. =/

I have no interest in it at all, though. I've never liked vampires or werewolves. But my opinion will stay neutral because I hate it when people form opinions over things they haven't even given a chance.

Ummm... the reason why a lot of people hate it is because they gave it a chance. Some of us have actually seen the movies and read the books and have something to go off of. A lot of people don't like it because the fact of sparkly vampires turns them off(which is valid imo, it's just not their thing), but what a lot of people actually hate about it is some of the disgusting and most sexist things that go on in the book. Not to mention the bad influence and standards it gives for young girls. Apparently if you're going through a break up, you should start doing dangerous stunts and attempt to kill yourself because every time you get close to death you hear your 'one true love'. Apparently this is all OK and a sign of true love! Stuff like that alone isn't unfounded hatred. And you know, I'm not saying people shouldn't have high standards and that romance is bad, but there is no romance in this. All I see is a sexual predator and manipulator.

The whole, "You just hate it because it's popular to hate on things popular." stance has never worked for me. Apparently I can't say that the plot in Avatar wasn't executed well(note I'm not asking for originality, just good execution) without someone thinking I'm just hating on Avatar because it's the 'cool and edgy' thing to do.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Victoria L. on April 17, 2010, 10:28:56 AM
Oh I know that there are people who dislike Twilight for valid reasons, I just am not convinced that they're in the majority.

I've seen many Twilight haters openly admit that they had never seen or read any Twilight at all.

Trust me, there are people who will completely disregard things due to their popularity. In fact it's quite common. Besides when somebody "cool" starts hating on Twilight, people who are with them will automatically assume that it is bad and start hating on it as well, even if they've never watched or read it at all.

I know we like to think otherwise, but it is a reality that these things happen. I've done it before, it's easy to take somebody's word for it, and then start saying the things that they did like you are an expert at the subject even though you've never watched or read it. I know this happens. And I do believe that Twilight is a victim of it. It may be badly written, I don't know, I don't care. I just have a hard time believing that the 'haters' have much to back up their opinion. Because opinions as radical as those of the 'haters' could so rarely be held by somebody who has actually watched or read such series. And Twilight has A LOT of haters.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Wolf Man on April 17, 2010, 10:39:04 AM
First: I read the books, they were good in a way. The movies tore what I liked apart.

Second: Those things that Lachlann mentioned that people hate (sexism etc.) are to blame on the auther IMHO. She was mormon. If you know anything about the LDS faith, then you know what I'm talking about. End of story.

Third: I found out about the author after I finished the saga and I feel dirty. Horribly dirty. Though I'd share that.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Lachlann on April 17, 2010, 10:55:39 AM
Quote from: Emily on April 17, 2010, 10:28:56 AM
Oh I know that there are people who dislike Twilight for valid reasons, I just am not convinced that they're in the majority.

I've seen many Twilight haters openly admit that they had never seen or read any Twilight at all.

Trust me, there are people who will completely disregard things due to their popularity. In fact it's quite common. Besides when somebody "cool" starts hating on Twilight, people who are with them will automatically assume that it is bad and start hating on it as well, even if they've never watched or read it at all.

I know we like to think otherwise, but it is a reality that these things happen. I've done it before, it's easy to take somebody's word for it, and then start saying the things that they did like you are an expert at the subject even though you've never watched or read it. I know this happens. And I do believe that Twilight is a victim of it. It may be badly written, I don't know, I don't care. I just have a hard time believing that the 'haters' have much to back up their opinion. Because opinions as radical as those of the 'haters' could so rarely be held by somebody who has actually watched or read such series. And Twilight has A LOT of haters.

The people who I've heard and seen rant about Twilight the most are the ones who have actually read or seen the movies. The people who just think it's silly or stupid but haven't read the books, in my experience at least, have been the ones who don't genuinely hate it and don't feel the need to criticize it at every turn. People who tend to be obsessed with hating things have this weird train wreck syndrome where they actually follow what they hate. I, myself, don't feel the need to bash Twilight at every turn or am obsessed with hating it, but I do know what it stands for and I really don't like what it's promoting.  But we don't exactly have any hard proof that haters are mostly this or that other than our personal experiences.

And I'm not denying that there are people out there who hate on things just because they're popular, but then again, if there were so many of these pretentious twats then the things they were hating on wouldn't be popular, therefore they are in the minority. Even the actor who plays Edward thinks that Stephanie Meyer is a bit wrong in the head after reading the book. The same guy who has fan girls who worship him thinks that there is something wrong with the book, obviously his influence has done nothing to the popularity of the series but he does know what's going on. It takes more than just being a 'cool' or 'hot' guy to influence the masses with an opinion. Believe it or not, but some people love something so much they don't care what other people think.

Again, some people dislike it because it's badly written or has sparkle vampires, but that's none of my concern with the book. Honestly, I think hating on it because vampires sparkle is a weak point, but if you don't like something then you don't like it. The bigger issue as I've said is the sexism, anti-feminism, chauvinism and unhealthy relationships that it promotes.

There are girls and women of all ages who suddenly want boyfriends like Edward Cullen and Jacob Black despite the fact that these relationships are unhealthy and abusive. People should be taking issue with that. Stephanie Meyer could have written the story differently in a way to empower women and say, "hey if this stuff goes down then get the hell out of the relationship!" instead of bringing us back to, "women should stay in the kitchen, have babies, do whatever their husband says, yadadadada" mixed in with some really messed up psychotic ways of thinking and pass it off as OK.

I'm fairly certain psychologists and psychiatrists have had a field day with this book before.

And I honestly do get tired of people who can't shut up about how much they hate Twilight, but you know, sometimes when they do rant about it they are very justified.

Quote from: Wolf Man on April 17, 2010, 10:39:04 AM
First: I read the books, they were good in a way. The movies tore what I liked apart.

Second: Those things that Lachlann mentioned that people hate (sexism etc.) are to blame on the auther IMHO. She was mormon. If you know anything about the LDS faith, then you know what I'm talking about. End of story.

Third: I found out about the author after I finished the saga and I feel dirty. Horribly dirty. Though I'd share that.

To be fair, not all Mormons are insane nor believe in everything that's spoon fed to them. I grew up in a Mormon family and honestly we were just like any other family and I was always taught to always question what I was being told at church, not just by my family, but by the actual church itself. I do take issues with quite a few of the teachings, but again, not everyone takes them super seriously either.

But Stephanie Meyer took some of the very iffy parts of the religion and made them even creepier in her books imo.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: PanoramaIsland on April 17, 2010, 12:10:31 PM
Disgusting, poorly written, sexist teenage vampire romance prolefeed. I would know, too, because I haven't read the books.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Farm Boy on April 30, 2010, 05:21:18 AM
Twilight hater here!  There wasn't an option for "I hate it with a fiery, burning passion" so I chose "Ew, sparkle-pyres!"

QuoteThe sparklyness aside...

It's misogynistic and disgusting.

Exactly.  I actually wrote a paper about it for my college English class...  Got an A+ ;D

Speaking as one who read the first book to see what all the hype was about, I have to say that it was the most poorly written and possibly the most sexist book I've ever read.  Please, how many times can you compare the guy to a marble statue and have him feel "chagrined" over something?  -Gag-

Edward and Bella have nothing to base a relationship off of, and Bella soon has even less personality than she began with after her undead pedophile cuts her off from her family and friends.  It's just incredibly sexist, and it worries me that so many people set their boyfriend standards to a manipulative, controlling, stalker.  What happened to the nice guys you never had to worry about kidnapping or killing you?

QuoteTo be fair, not all Mormons are insane nor believe in everything that's spoon fed to them. I grew up in a Mormon family and honestly we were just like any other family and I was always taught to always question what I was being told at church, not just by my family, but by the actual church itself. I do take issues with quite a few of the teachings, but again, not everyone takes them super seriously either.

Exactly the same with me.  I hate how Meyer and the FLDS in Texas and so on give normal, sane Mormons a bad name.  I was so not raised to be owned by my boyfriend/husband/spouse...
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: rejennyrated on April 30, 2010, 05:51:45 AM
I hate to admit it but I liked it although I found the stories rather simplistic... but hey it's fantasy so no problem.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Metamorph on April 30, 2010, 06:09:51 AM
I saw it for the first time on DVD the other day. I had low expectations cos of this thread but i didnt think it was that bad. i agree that the sparkles thing is a bit daft since i prefer vampires more typical portayal. i do think its odd how its become an obsession to so many but overall it was an alright film. yet to see the sequels.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: OnyaKonyaLonya on May 24, 2010, 01:37:04 PM
i dont have much impression on this movie
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Guantanamera on November 05, 2011, 12:49:22 AM
Quote from: mija on December 13, 2009, 02:08:59 AM
I thought it was o.k. it was fun to watch. Some of it was silly but who cares it's just a movie. But then again I like silly pop songs too. Uh oh I can hear the hipsters weeping now.

I just died a little bit on the inside.

I'm about ready to skulk off in my plaid and cords and put on a record. /sigh.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Amaranth on November 05, 2011, 09:50:17 AM
The movies were decent...I adore the books though.  I understand the complaints people have about it, but that doesn't make me like it any less.  I don't take it as a guide for real life relationships.  It had a somewhat simplistic writing style and cheesy storyline, but who cares?  It's a fantasy novel, the only thing that matters to me is the picture it paints and how it makes me feel.

People can say what they want about the "gay sparkly vampires".  And sure, it isn't a good portrayal of how a real love life should work.  That doesn't make the drama any less exciting, and it doesn't make Meyer's characters any less fun to fantasize about...

I'm not sure who first said this, but there's a quote about a scene in the first book that goes "there's more sex in that one paragraph than all the snogging in Harry Potter."

Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Annah on November 05, 2011, 10:15:55 AM
wow talk about your necromantic thread raisers lol

But back to topic.

I cannot stand the series.

1. The fact that a 150 some year old guy falling in love with a 16 year old is pretty damn creepy.

2. The boy has some serious issues with stalking Bella.

3. His disposition is so depressing you feel numb after watching the movie. I've seen vampire movies before where the vampire is depressed over his immortality but having to explain his depression on this subject in every damn scene for 3 movies is a bit much.

4. They're not vampires. They are simply people who are addicted to blood who can live forever. They seem to be very messed up mages than vampires. Hell, they don't even have fangs.

5. Bella needs to see a therapist

6. We know he loves Bella. They don't have to remind me 40 times in each movie. I get the picture.

The first movie was "ok." It really wasn't anything to write home about. Out of five stars I would give it 3.0 to 3.5. The second movie was pretty much sex appeal. let's see which guy looks the sexiest. I gave that movie 2.5 stars.

The third movie was so boring to me that I took the blue ray out of the player about half way through it. I VERY RARELY stop a movie halfway through. I would say in about 30 years of watching movies, I have done this about 5 times.

I feel bad for the people who got twilight tattoos.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Zaria on December 03, 2011, 01:30:31 PM
Believe it or not, I actually found the movies FAR better than the books.  Not that they were any good, but the books are that bad... oh but I can't stop reading/watching... like crack... haha :)

I have read all of S.M.'s work and she has delusions of adequacy as an author.  I guess 'the host' was alright...

I don't understand how I can dislike the movies... rant and rave about how bad they are... and then plan on watching the next one..
Like a car crash... must.. slow.. down.. and look...

Edward is a creeper... Jacob is Emo...

Hugs
Zaria :)
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Guantanamera on December 10, 2011, 08:31:33 PM
Quote from: Wolf Man on April 17, 2010, 10:39:04 AM

Second: Those things that Lachlann mentioned that people hate (sexism etc.) are to blame on the auther IMHO. She was mormon. If you know anything about the LDS faith, then you know what I'm talking about. End of story.

I live in Utah.

So, yep, mormons everywhere.

They are no doubt the most bizarre people in the world. Hands down.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Cody Jensen on February 07, 2012, 12:20:26 PM
Eh. When I was identifying as female I got sucked (no pun intended) into the hype. But ALL through each movie I couldn't stand the acting. Kristen Stewart's especially. What's with that darned annoying head bob she always does?? She could at least try to act cute. I constantly wished they had casted Leighton Meester from Gossip Girl as Bella, and apparently that girl who played Babydoll from Suckerpunch was originally supposed to play Bella. I think she would have done a MUCH better job than Kristen Stewart. My two cents :P
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: francmulloy on February 12, 2012, 10:28:46 PM
Quote from: Annah on November 05, 2011, 10:15:55 AM
wow talk about your necromantic thread raisers lol

But back to topic.

I cannot stand the series.

1. The fact that a 150 some year old guy falling in love with a 16 year old is pretty damn creepy.

2. The boy has some serious issues with stalking Bella.

3. His disposition is so depressing you feel numb after watching the movie. I've seen vampire movies before where the vampire is depressed over his immortality but having to explain his depression on this subject in every damn scene for 3 movies is a bit much.

4. They're not vampires. They are simply people who are addicted to blood who can live forever. They seem to be very messed up mages than vampires. Hell, they don't even have fangs.

5. Bella needs to see a therapist

6. We know he loves Bella. They don't have to remind me 40 times in each movie. I get the picture.

The first movie was "ok." It really wasn't anything to write home about. Out of five stars I would give it 3.0 to 3.5. The second movie was pretty much sex appeal. let's see which guy looks the sexiest. I gave that movie 2.5 stars.

The third movie was so boring to me that I took the blue ray out of the player about half way through it. I VERY RARELY stop a movie halfway through. I would say in about 30 years of watching movies, I have done this about 5 times.

I feel bad for the people who got twilight tattoos.

i agree


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Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: ~RoadToTrista~ on February 12, 2012, 11:06:44 PM
Idk I've never read it or watched it, but I do enjoy making fun of it.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Felix on February 12, 2012, 11:40:56 PM
I haven't read the book or seen it, and I don't know anyone who has, but lol the internet sure seems to hate it. :laugh:
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Kreuzfidel on February 17, 2012, 02:56:33 AM
I don't like much fiction, so haven't read the books.  I watched the first film and thought it had potential, but was amateurly acted, had mediocre CG effects and was probably not well-adapted from the book.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Cody Jensen on February 17, 2012, 09:55:03 PM
also i don't like how it's messing with all the cis teenage girls and their hormones, making them actually think some vampire boyfriend is gonna show up and sweep them off their feet. i've been hearing this a lot lately:

"Oh em gee!! (points to boyfriend) You can be Edward!!"
"Oh em gee!! (points to guy friend) You can like... totally be Jacob!!"

Anyone else see this happen a lot? :P
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: supremecatoverlord on February 17, 2012, 09:57:06 PM
Quote from: Cody Jensen on February 17, 2012, 09:55:03 PM

"Oh em gee!! (points to boyfriend) You can be Edward!!"
"Oh em gee!! (points to guy friend) You can like... totally be Jacob!!"

Anyone else see this happen a lot? :P
No, and I'm glad I don't.
Bella's character is just psychotic and manipulative...and has Kirsten Stewart's horse face.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Kreuzfidel on February 18, 2012, 08:14:06 AM
Quote from: Cody Jensen on February 17, 2012, 09:55:03 PM
also i don't like how it's messing with all the cis teenage girls and their hormones, making them actually think some vampire boyfriend is gonna show up and sweep them off their feet. i've been hearing this a lot lately:

"Oh em gee!! (points to boyfriend) You can be Edward!!"
"Oh em gee!! (points to guy friend) You can like... totally be Jacob!!"

Anyone else see this happen a lot? :P
Makes me glad I don't leave the house.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Cody Jensen on February 18, 2012, 08:59:22 PM
JasonRx do you mean manipulative in like how she wants Edward to kiss her and stuff like that?

Kreuzfidel ha. i don't leave the house much either actually, but since my best friend is a girl she's said that a couple times. plus ive seen other girls saying it too. it's actually fun to laugh at them :P
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: ♥ Dutchess on March 12, 2012, 10:39:36 PM
I don't hate it or anything, but I have seen them all so far, and the only one I even remotely enjoyed was New Moon and I think it was maybe 4-5 scenes in the movie I DID like.

PS. Jacob IS kinda fun to look at :-p
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Shang on March 12, 2012, 11:25:11 PM
I don't hate Twilight, I just don't like it.  The message in the movies, and the books, is something I just can't stand by:  that you require a guy in order to be happy.  Bella was so wrapped up in Edward that she tried to kill herself when he left.  That just seems like a very poor message to be sending out to teens who are already confused.  There are other parts of the story that I also don't like. 

The one guy in the story who wasn't emotionally abusive to Bella was the one that Bella didn't go for.  I understand that many girls go for the emotionally abusive fellow, but I don't think it should be publicized or encouraged.  After this movie came out, I saw a lot of girls clamoring to be in a relationship with a guy like Edward.  If only they knew how horrible it is then they wouldn't be saying it.

Plus the special effects in the movie had been giggling a bit.  The acting was also horrible on all of the parts of the cast.  Just overall a giggle worthy movie with a horrible plot.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: ♥ Dutchess on March 13, 2012, 03:10:20 AM
I agree completely, the underlying message is terrible, Kristen is too flat (acting wise) for the part of Bella. She comes across fidgety instead of shy
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: tekla on March 13, 2012, 12:45:45 PM
"Harry Potter is about confronting fears, finding inner strength and doing what is right in the face of adversity. Twilight is about how important it is to have a boyfriend."

- Stephen King, who knows something about storytelling
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: tekla on March 13, 2012, 01:06:50 PM
Yeah, but he wrote the best haunted house story ever.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Shang on March 13, 2012, 01:17:08 PM
Quote from: tekla on March 13, 2012, 12:45:45 PM
"Harry Potter is about confronting fears, finding inner strength and doing what is right in the face of adversity. Twilight is about how important it is to have a boyfriend."

- Stephen King, who knows something about storytelling

That quote actually wasn't said by him. :) It was said by one Robin Browne (link (http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/778648-this-is-not-a-stephen-king-quote)).  I agree with the quote, though.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: tekla on March 13, 2012, 01:18:24 PM
if its on the internet it has to be true.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: dalebert on March 13, 2012, 01:49:51 PM
Quote from: tekla on March 13, 2012, 01:18:24 PM
if its on the internet it has to be true.

I have a foot-long penis that's as thick as a beer can.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Shang on March 13, 2012, 01:54:01 PM
Quote from: tekla on March 13, 2012, 01:18:24 PM
if its on the internet it has to be true.

Hahaha.  That mentality is specifically why I looked up the quote to see who actually said it.  I lok up just about any quote, though.
Title: Re: Twilight - your opinion?
Post by: Jam on March 13, 2012, 10:22:48 PM
Quote from: tekla on December 12, 2009, 12:14:43 PM
Thanks but no thanks on the sparkle - what are they, David Bowie Vamps?

Hilarious.


Vampires in love? I'd rather choke.