saw the hair advice threads popping up and I thought id give it a go since I am at a loss with my hair
I had a mohawk for three years so the sides are growing in alot slower. also I was going for a drullet before so the back is alot longer than the front even. and just general hair styles to shoot for in the future with my face shape :p
here comes the ugly pics >.<
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi78.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj89%2Fninjaseikai%2F1218102332.jpg&hash=714d27cfcbff77f9405ef696edfbd92edad74f72)
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(on a side note I'm really noticing my brow bossing in these pics. Is it something I might have to consider fixing later on or is there a chance HRT will fix it somewhat somehow?)
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Quote from: Sada on December 19, 2010, 01:19:01 AM
No sweetie HRT will not fix that :(. For your brow you will need FFS if you want to go down that route, for everyone that is a very personal decision.
With HRT around six to seven months should soften your face up around the jaw line and the apple cheeks should come maybe there or around a year or so. You will notice gradual changes to your face over a long period, being more then a year. Keep a photo diary so you can look back and not get frustrated. An make sure to have a damn good moisturizer for your skin because HRT will dry the hell out of you. ;)
I figured as much :/
o well i hope its not really as bad as it looks to me, I would really like to avoid surgeries i could probably never afford along with everything else.
Quote from: Eve of Chaos on December 19, 2010, 01:22:14 AM
I figured as much :/
o well i hope its not really as bad as it looks to me, I would really like to avoid surgeries i could probably never afford along with everything else.
Can't see the pics as i'm at work atm but I guaruntee that it's not as bad as it looks to you, simply because when we look at ourselves in the mirror we we zero in on what we consider to be our vile and disgusting masculine features to such an extent that we ignore everything else. Generally, in polite society people don't subject subject other people to such an intense level of scrutiny.
The trick is not to chase perfection because all that will happen is you'll end up looking like a charictiture and actually make yourself more obvious...not less. also surgery costs a shed load, why have stuff you don't really need.
that first pix really is ugly teenage boy.
pulling hair back will accentuate the recession at top fronts so let the hair fall over the ears and better start saving for transplants or wigs.
i don't see any brow bossing to worry about.
ditto on the forehead.
One thing that will really help is to get a good hairdresser to cut out all the split ends and add a bit of shape on a regular basis. I was surprised at the effect after I had been growing mine out from a buzz cut after 6 months of not getting it cut at all. Although a little shorter, it had a lot better shape.
The colour in your avatar is nice already.
Sandra.
Yeah no hope on the forehead I'm sorry I'm in the same boat tho with a moderate amount of it thus fringe (Bangs) not perfect but it's a medium term solution for now.
The lower front and sides of your face are more female than male and your face is quite round (Whitch is better than I've got ala heavy chin) so you have a good choice of which ones you want. Although because your face is quite small you might want to avoid some of the longer ones.
Quote from: lilacwoman on December 19, 2010, 04:24:04 AM
that first pix really is ugly teenage boy.
pulling hair back will accentuate the recession at top fronts so let the hair fall over the ears and better start saving for transplants or wigs.
i don't see any brow bossing to worry about.
...Is it really that bad...I thought that was one of the things i didnt have to worry about...
There are such things as Rogaine and Finasteride (Propecia) that have in some cases regrown hair, but at the very least have been shown to prevent baldness. Most MtFs take them as part of HRT, but you can always take the 1mg dose just becuase you want to keep the hair you have etc, without it being considered HRT. As for the rest of it, a good stylist should be able to help you with it. And I mean a good one, like all things you get what you pay for.
As for the brow bossing, I'll second what everyone else has said. My personal feelings on FFS, its the new must have for MtF. There are plenty of people that it makes all the difference in the world, but for most people less drastic measures can do the trick. I think alot of surgeons have made a ton of money from desperate MtFs who considered it their only option without trying less invasive, less costly measures first.
...I'm not balding...my hairline has always been here...hair cant grow back to where it never was...
Quote from: Eve of Chaos on December 19, 2010, 01:36:32 PM
...I'm not balding...my hairline has always been here...hair cant grow back to where it never was...
looking at the pictures your hairline is very similar to mine...not balding, just the way it's always been. getting a style that works with what you've got is the best thing with a possibility of a hair transplant as another...but I wouldn't worry about that while you have bigger fish to fry.
I'm not really suggesting that anyone is balding, myself included. My therapists exact words were "You've got great hair, I have plenty of clients that would kill for your hair. You really should take finasteride to make sure you keep what you've got." My advice would be the same, don't fight the battle on one front to be outflanked on another.
Quote from: regan on December 19, 2010, 07:28:38 PM
I'm not really suggesting that anyone is balding, myself included. My therapists exact words were "You've got great hair, I have plenty of clients that would kill for your hair. You really should take finasteride to make sure you keep what you've got." My advice would be the same, don't fight the battle on one front to be outflanked on another.
i thought i read somewhere that when on HRT you dont have to worry about male pattern baldness, or am i dead wrong?
Quote from: Eve of Chaos on December 19, 2010, 07:32:59 PM
i thought i read somewhere that when on HRT you dont have to worry about male pattern baldness, or am i dead wrong?
Females can and do go bald. The trait is passed on from your mother's side, so for an MtF look at your maternal grandfather and that should be your best indicator. The actual science of what causes baldness is based on the fact that testosterone does damage hair folicles causing the hair to fall out and not grow back. Higher levels of testosterone do increase the risk of baldness, but like I said women do go bald. Finasteride, being an anti-androgen, helps prevent baldness.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finasteride (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finasteride)
your right the T blockers will eliminate male pattern baldness and cause a reversal in regions where hair has been lost in the past 6 months.
Female pattern baldness is associated with high levels of P which isn't something you have to worry about most don't go on P and even those that do take micronized type which is rapidly broken down by the body (within 4 hours of taking it) Thus don't cause the chronic interaction that induces perminant hair loss.
blagh that sucks, but its good to know. thank you for that
this thread has majorly derailed though, i wanted advice on hairstyles and havent gotten any yet, mostly alot of pointing out my imperfections :/
Quote from: pebbles on December 19, 2010, 07:47:05 PM
your right the T blockers will eliminate male pattern baldness and cause a reversal in regions where hair has been lost in the past 6 months.
Female pattern baldness is associated with high levels of P which isn't something you have to worry about most don't go on P and even those that do take micronized type which is rapidly broken down by the body (within 4 hours of taking it)
well that is good news then, this thread has gotten me majorly worried about my hair when i didnt even give it a second thought before :/
Quote from: Eve of Chaos on December 19, 2010, 07:48:33 PMthis thread has majorly derailed though, i wanted advice on hairstyles and havent gotten any yet, mostly alot of pointing out my imperfections :/
You should ignore lilac she allergic to empathy. ¬.¬ Her rep implies this.
I wasn't criticizing your face shape at all with my first post I was merely pointing out bits damaged by T that you might want to cover up :) and which style I think would look good for you. I think you have a nice face and bone structure I'd swap with you if I could ^.^
Quote from: Eve of Chaos on December 19, 2010, 07:48:33 PM
well that is good news then, this thread has gotten me majorly worried about my hair when i didnt even give it a second thought before :/
I wouldn't worry about it. Our flaws tend not to be as bad as we think and as much as we get down on ourselves and think "I'll never look like her", we forget that someone is looking at us thinking the same thing.
As for hair advice:
Quote from: regan on December 19, 2010, 01:30:22 PM
As for the rest of it, a good stylist should be able to help you with it. And I mean a good one, like all things you get what you pay for.
haha alright, I think going to a hairstylist would be good then, I'm not sure what I can do with the sides so short though. I'll probably have to wait iy out for awhile
Quote from: pebbles on December 19, 2010, 07:53:54 PM
You should ignore lilac she allergic to empathy. ¬.¬ Her rep implies this.
I wasn't criticizing your face shape at all with my first post I was merely pointing out bits damaged by T that you might want to cover up :) and which style I think would look good for you. I think you have a nice face and bone structure I'd swap with you if I could ^.^
I reread your post :p I guess I was too distraught earlier to notice you were giving advice>.<
so thank you, I'm gonna take that into consideration and go to a salon sometime, maybe not soon, I might wait for my hair to grow a bit.
Looks like you've got good hair. And you already have bangs which was what I would suggest. I wouldn't worry too much about the hairline. It looks fine to me and many women wear bangs to cover a high forehead and whatnot (or just because they look good on them).
What kind of hairstyles do you like? As has been mentioned, a good stylist will help you integrate your preferences with what looks good on you.
And ignore any rudeness. You have all the makings of a very cute girl.
I think I've more or less decided on a fashion mullet. I wont have a lot of length but I think it could possibly look good.
heres some examples I'm going off of.
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j89/ninjaseikai/0a8833d4.jpg (http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j89/ninjaseikai/0a8833d4.jpg)
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j89/ninjaseikai/ID35311978F.jpg (http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j89/ninjaseikai/ID35311978F.jpg)
(I think this girls face looks a lot like mine!)
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j89/ninjaseikai/ID7267635R.jpg (http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j89/ninjaseikai/ID7267635R.jpg)
and I might consider a pixie cut like this if it turns out I don't have enough hair.
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j89/ninjaseikai/downpoopcoree2.jpg (http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j89/ninjaseikai/downpoopcoree2.jpg)
I understand about the hairline. Mine has always gone back a bit too. Nothing excessive but it's been that way since I was 15. I keep my hair relatively short. I had long hair for a while but it just annoyed me and I had to put way too much effort into it to get it to look good. Bangs are your friend if you're worried about bossing. But you're always going to find things wrong with yourself. I know I do.
Also I'm a fan of the pixie.
The pixie cut is cute.
Quote from: jmaxley on December 19, 2010, 11:39:41 PM
The pixie cut is cute.
Quote from: Maddie Secutura on December 19, 2010, 10:25:25 PM
Also I'm a fan of the pixie.
i agree, I'm just worried that since its so short it wont do much for my passing. :/
Quote from: Eve of Chaos on December 19, 2010, 11:45:29 PM
i agree, I'm just worried that since its so short it wont do much for my passing. :/
Well there's that. And on male bodied members of society the pixie is pretty much a standard haircut. So as far as passing goes it's probably not your best option; at least not for now. Even before getting a haircut, having shaped eyebrows makes a huge difference.
Quote from: Maddie Secutura on December 20, 2010, 12:51:12 AM
Well there's that. And on male bodied members of society the pixie is pretty much a standard haircut. So as far as passing goes it's probably not your best option; at least not for now. Even before getting a haircut, having shaped eyebrows makes a huge difference.
well lucky for me i got them shaped already :p
Get bangs, dye your hair ONE color and stick to it. Dont do any drastic/weird haircuts or it will bring attention to your forehead/hairline if you are trying to cover it up. Do layers if you want to accentuate femininity. Brush your hair every day to prevent breakage and do a deep moisture therapy every week to prevent future damage. If you feel your hair is thin or thinning, do not dye it too much, taking care of it will give the illusion of thicker/fuller/healthier hair.
The really really short haircuts are for girls with very strong "feminine" faces (aka winona ryder, natalie portman, emma watson etc) in order to pull off, otherwise it wont help with "passing" if that is what you are ultimately trying to achieve.
Quote from: KillBelle on December 20, 2010, 01:18:48 AM
The really really short haircuts are for girls with very strong "feminine" faces (aka winona ryder, natalie portman, emma watson etc) in order to pull off, otherwise it wont help with "passing" if that is what you are ultimately trying to achieve.
Depending on how masculine your face is, I'm not sure that a haircut would make the difference between passing and not passing as in all the hair in the world isn't going to make you look like less of a dockworker, just as much as a supershort haircut isn't going to make you look less feminine then say the size of your feet. I'd rather just be happy with my hair and leave it at that.
It was just an honest opinion, if you really want to pass you can go the route that will most likely help your case, or the route that is 50/50. But that is just what i have experienced and what i have seen my friends go through, others are free to contribute their own ideas.
By all means its good advice. I was just suggesting that people tend to obsess over the minor details in their quest to pass and ignore the major ones (like maybe you have great hair, but you still sit like a neaderthal).