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Is it normal to have these feelings when starting RLE

Started by alice10, October 29, 2012, 10:44:42 AM

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alice10

I went out multiple times in girl mode yesterday for the first time and I was just so nervous. I had so many thoughts running through my head.

Why am I putting my self through this?
Why are you making your life so much harder?
I feel like a man in women's clothes. I felt like I was hiding myself or something.

It just feels like everything kicks into over drive. You think about everything that is wrong and good. I am not use to the attention either.

Does this get better or do you just get use to it?
Started transition October 2011
Went fulltime Nov 29 2012
SRS hopefully by 2014



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Brooke777

For me, it gets better everytime I go out. Now, I have those types of feelings when I present male at work.  Stick with it. It is well worth it in the end.
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RosieD

Quote from: Brooke777 on October 29, 2012, 10:46:39 AM
Now, I have those types of feelings when I present male at work.

Exactly that. I had to wear a (male) suit for the first time in ages today.  I felt like a pantomime dame but in reverse,  if that makes sense.

Rosie,  x.
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Beverly

Quote from: alice10 on October 29, 2012, 10:44:42 AM
I went out multiple times in girl mode yesterday for the first time and I was just so nervous. I had so many thoughts running through my head.

Why am I putting my self through this?
Why are you making your life so much harder?
Rule number one - when you see people looking at you, smile slightly, look away and say to yourself "I do not know you and I will probably never see you again so whatever you think of me is your problem, not mine"

Quote from: alice10 on October 29, 2012, 10:44:42 AM
I am not use to the attention either.
Rule number two - ignore everyone and get on with what you are doing. "Ignore" means that if they look at you give the little smile and get on with whatever it was you were doing.

Quote from: alice10 on October 29, 2012, 10:44:42 AM
Does this get better or do you just get use to it?
You get used to it.

Rule number 3 - Remember that wherever you are, you own the place. It is YOUR shopping mall, it is YOUR main street, it is YOUR restaurant. Just swan around like the owner. Look confident and everybody will ignore you.

Rule Number 4 - Ignore rules 1 to 3 and everyone will stare at you and some will point at you.

Confidence is key. Nothing matters as much. If you look confident, look like you belong in that place, look happy and not nervous then everyone takes you at face value and stops looking at you. They will look at other people because you have ticked all the boxes marked 'nothing unusual'.

After a while you stop thinking about it and it becomes natural.
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Beverly

Quote from: Rosie on October 29, 2012, 12:24:33 PM
Exactly that. I had to wear a (male) suit for the first time in ages today.  I felt like a pantomime dame but in reverse,  if that makes sense.

Yes.

I got involved in a conversation about mens clothing the other day. After five decades of wearing the stuff I was surprised by how much I have forgotten in less than 2 years.

I felt like a total outsider - male fashion has nothing to do with me any more. And it felt like it...
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alice10

Started transition October 2011
Went fulltime Nov 29 2012
SRS hopefully by 2014



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Jennifer.L

I promise hun, before long you will only feel weird when your not enfem.  For me it felt like when you have been wearing sox all day then you take them off and everything feels weird.
Live your life.

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JoanneB

Back in my 20's when I first considered transitioning, the "Some guy in a dress" feeling got to me a lot. Especially comming on the heels of a living hell called childhood and high school idiots  >:(

Yes, the first few times can be difficult with all those demons trying to derail you. Your deepest darkest fears can overwhelm you.

Why are you putting yourself through it?  Pretty obvious isn't it?

Why make your life more difficult?  Difficult compared to what? Being a rotting corpse? Living a regretfull, joyless life? Getting through each day with the help of drugs or booze? Trying hard every day to do your best job pretending that you really really are a guy and watch how I can prove it? Trying to hide your secret, only to have a marrage blow up? Trying not to hide it, only to have another marrage blow up once again because you aren't a real man? Been there, done that (minus the rotting corpse but risky behaviour says not so fast) for several decades.

Getting attention?  Guys check out women. Women check out women. In other words, get used to being looked at. Be confident. Don't pay attention to any of them. Unless you are a certified mind reader, you just don't know.

Does it get better? When I once again stepped out into daylight as me a couple of years ago many of those demons came rushing back to haunt me. Funny part is within 10 minutes I never felt better and happier with myself. Each time afterwards better and better to the point of breaking down into tears come late Sunday night when having to start switching back into guy mode. You start feeling like some woman in baggy slacks when in guy mode. You start wishing you can shout out to the world "I am not a Man"

Worse part is transitioning was not on my agenda back then. Really still is not, kind of sort of. But.... Why make my life more miserable?  Oh wait! More miserable vs joyous, harmonious, real?
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Ms. OBrien CVT

Soon it will be that you have to go out as you.  Even just briefly going in male mode will cause those feelings.

I can not go anywhere as a male.  1) I don't pass for a male.   2) I have no male clothing.  Thank The Gods.

  
It does not take courage or bravery to change your gender.  It takes fear of living one more day in the wrong one.~me
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Alainaluvsu

Quote from: Ms. OBrien on October 29, 2012, 07:20:05 PM
Soon it will be that you have to go out as you.  Even just briefly going in male mode will cause those feelings.

I can not go anywhere as a male.  1) I don't pass for a male.   2) I have no male clothing.  Thank The Gods.

Likewise. Male clothing would feel so extremely foreign to me at this point and I've only been full time for about 6 months.
To dream of the person you would like to be is to waste the person you are.



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Misato

As was said above, confidence.

I got to the point of being near full time early this year.  Since then, I've had to be a male a lot as I prepare to transition on the job.  I keep having these flashbacks to experiences I had while presenting as a woman and I outright NEED to go back now.

I was nervous at the start and yes I had some bad experiences with the public, but life was still easier when I was being myself.  I also agree wih the comment of putting yourself in uncomfortable situations.  I didn't have a car so when I needed to get around it was public transit for me and no car also mwant I had no safe place to take refuge.  I don't reccomend that extreme, but it did help me.
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tgirljuliewilson

You have to be true to yourself....

Once you realize that you are not male, but truly female, then being in public as such will become the normal--and you'll be comfortable as such.

Be confident in who you are, and therefore how you are presenting yourself to the world.

Yes, you will be examined by both men and other women--get used to it, and examine them right back!

With time, you, too, will be confident being who really are while out in public--then you can start to enjoy life as a woman, and it will feel as right as rain.
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Stephe

Of course at first anyone would be nervous. I know I was. It was a long time before I felt "comfortable" being a woman in public. What you are feeling is very normal.
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Tristan

i agree with everyone else. it does get better with time
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Kitteh Engimeer

Quote from: alice10 on October 29, 2012, 10:44:42 AM
I went out multiple times in girl mode yesterday for the first time and I was just so nervous. I had so many thoughts running through my head.

Why am I putting my self through this?
Why are you making your life so much harder?
I feel like a man in women's clothes. I felt like I was hiding myself or something.

I seem to be similar - and at the moment I still experience those feelings. Regardless, I do my best to keep to myself, giving myself little objectives to focus on while working towards a bigger objective - say, going shopping, meeting up, etc. Although it feels like people are watching and judging you, I believe that ultimately most people won't be concerned/impacted whatsoever by your presence. Think of it - they've got their own objectives and duties.

In my opinion, you don't need to be outgoing during your RLE. Just be you. You don't need to respond or interact with people who you think may be gesturing rudely towards/mocking you. Just go about your business. It can be fortunate and unfortunate at the same time, but we all have a right to our own opinions, including everyone you may encounter in public.

Don't get me wrong - coming from someone that gets nasty pangs of anxiety, it's really scary. I'm still getting used to it. But we all need to be seen as who we are; that's why we're transitioning. It'll definitely be worth it.
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Stephe

The other thing that takes a while: Don't assume when you hear laughter that they are laughing at you. They probably aren't. People laugh all the time we just don't normally notice it because we aren't in hyper self conscious mode. What will help is try to notice your surroundings more when you aren't in girl mode and you will start to notice, yes people do just laugh at things other than you quite often.

One other point is people, both men and women look at women a lot more than they look at guys. It's not you or them clocking you. It just is how it is. That was a little unnerving at first too.
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Beverly

Quote from: Stephe on November 01, 2012, 09:36:53 AM
The other thing that takes a while: Don't assume when you hear laughter that they are laughing at you. They probably aren't. People laugh all the time we just don't normally notice it because we aren't in hyper self conscious mode.

^^^^ This

I actually reached an odd point in my transition last night. I have been living fulltime since mid-2011 and "officially" RLE since mid-2012 so I have been at this a while. I popped out to get some stuff at the supermarket. Drove up, parked, got a trolley and went in.

To get to the food section I had to walk past the clothing section and I stopped for a little nosey (as you do) and looked at some nice skirts. I looked at myself in the mirror, holding the skirt against me to get some idea of what it would look like and, just for a moment, I saw myself standing there in my normal clothes. What struck me was how normal I looked. I now look normal to myself. I probably have done so for a while, but it just hit me last night that if I changed back to where I was 2 years ago, to the 'me' that I spent my life as up to that point, then I would feel so weird and foreign.

So I did my shopping, walked to the check-out and spoke with the woman there (who I have not seen before) and we chatted about Halloween and parties and how lousy the weather was and then I went back to the car and drove off home.

All so utterly normal that I do not even think about it any more......
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Rita

Gotta love the voice  in your head that is still scared.  Sometimes its more wanting to feel normal, transitioning is a ton of work and is out of the ordinary as an experience.

Normal takes a long time... separating yourself from what people saw you as and what you are.    It is seriously overwhelming, and if I dont cry on the shoulder of a friend I would go insane by now hehe.   
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aprilrain

what you are feeling is normal. It takes time to be comfortable in a new role whatever that role is. I don't even think twice about going out as me now it just doesn't cross my mind that there is anything odd about me being me and you will get there too.
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Carlita

For everyone going through the struggle of going out into the world in a new identity, terrified that people are looking at them and thinking bad things about them, here's some reassuring news.

Most people are much too worried about their own hang-ups to spot, still less care about anyone else's. This isn't just an opinion: it's a psychological phenomenon called The Spotlight Effect. Below is a link to a blog about it by a Psych professor at Berkeley.

http://blogs.berkeley.edu/2012/06/05/the-spotlight-effect/

And here's his summary if you don't have the time or interest to read the whole blog.

"People (generally) of course know that they are not the center of everybody else's universe. But when we do something atypical, either good or bad, we tend not to sufficiently correct for the difference between our own and other peoples' perceptions.

"The take-home message, I hope, is clear: when you find yourself mortified or overly worried about the impression you'll make, remember that other people simply don't pay as much attention to you as you think they do. Your conversational faux-pas will not linger in their memories, and that coffee stain on your shirt is unlikely to be a conversational topic at the water cooler. You will not make or break a first impression on the basis of one particularly brilliant or embarrassing thing you say.

"This is not to say that people don't notice you at all; only that people do not process information about you as deeply as you do. In other words, while you're stuck ruminating, people have likely moved on. No big deal."

Now, the experiment that established the Spotlight Effect involved a guy wearing an embarrassing Barry Manilow t-shirt. Going out presenting as a woman for the first time is several orders of magnitude more terrifying than just putting on a dodgy t-shirt. But the principle is the same.

Hope that helps ease a few fears, just a tiny little bit!  :)
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