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What are your thoughts on a bisexual person being able to marry 2 people?

Started by Shawn Sunshine, January 04, 2013, 10:26:58 PM

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Shawn Sunshine

I am just curious to hear peoples thoughts on the matter. Some might see that as Polygamy and some may not. Is there any area where that's legal to marry more than 1 person? Do you think that if your bisexual you can instead marry one person and have another as a housemate of sorts? So where does it end though, do you get 50 husbands and wives? I just am wondering ,  because I don't see many people talking about bisexual marriages.
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Nero

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Shawn Sunshine

well if you want you can add me to your harem, but you have to buy me clothes and food.

Here is an interesting article about the matter:


http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/bj-epstein/bisexuality-and-marriage_b_1577176.html
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EmmaMcAllister

I don't believe laws and marriage are compatible. It's up to individuals to define their interpersonal relationships. However, I should point out that I'm an anarchist and object to most limits on human freedom.
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crazy at the coast

There is nothing stopping a bisexual person from being married to one person and then having an open marriage now.  But really, you are assuming that bisexual people aren't monogamous, I'm pretty sure most tend to be.
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Shawn Sunshine

no but they don't legally recognize marriage to 2 people , sure you can have an open marriage but I think bisexuals should be able to legally say they have a husband and wife if they want.
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Anatta

Kia Ora SS,

::) This would make it a 'tri-sexual' marriage  ;)

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Shawn Sunshine

So wait could you go to a state where you can legally marry the same sex, get married in Vegas to the opposite sex and then come back to the same state? Or could you still not legally do that.
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Annah

Quote from: Jaime on January 04, 2013, 10:34:35 PM
There is nothing stopping a bisexual person from being married to one person and then having an open marriage now.  But really, you are assuming that bisexual people aren't monogamous, I'm pretty sure most tend to be.

agreed...that is a stereotype many Bisexuals are trying to squash
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Shawn Sunshine

Well I have met a few bisexuals that have 3 lovers in one house. It's just like any other person really, not everyone is monogamous. But the question would be, does a person have to be monogamous? Should they be limited to be legally married to 1 person?
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supremecatoverlord

Most people aren't polygamists, bisexual or not...

So basically, no, I don't agree with this.
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Shawn Sunshine

Quote from: JasonRX on January 04, 2013, 10:59:00 PM
Most people aren't polygamists, bisexual or not...

So basically, no, I don't agree with this.

So do you think its a sin or a crime? Can you explain further why you don't agree?
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Elspeth

Quote from: Shawn Sunshine on January 04, 2013, 10:45:51 PM
Should they be limited to be legally married to 1 person?

Under what legal argument would one advocate that such limits are justified?

As a practical matter, part of me suspects that contemporary polyamory activists might eventual form a "marriage of convenience" in terms of strategy and fundraising, at least, with Mormons. At least when I was growing up the usually unstated implications was that Mormons respected current laws of the state when it came to marriage, at least once they realized they had no real chance of forming their own separate nation that supported polygamy.

While the mainstreaming branch of Mormonism keeps trying to distance itself from those traditions, and demonizes FLDS and other polygamist sects within Mormonism, a good bit of my expects that will change if/when there's sufficient support to bring some landmark case to the Supreme Court and come to some resolution that goes into enough depth to challenge the logic of monogamy. Then again, considering the status of women in the workplace, perhaps many will find changing gender conventions and roles more appealing than trying to just negotiate such changes.
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Reinhaven

I can't agree with this because I think a marriage is a unit for two.

When two join together, it signifies something much more than emotions bonding them together. It signifies trust. Loyalty. Honor for one another. Devotion. When you take time out of your day to be with someone, it shows that you care for them more than yourselves.

When you're with three or more people in a marital unit, things get complicated. You start choosing favorites. You can become distant from one spouse and chose the other over them. One of the biggest issues I see with multiple people marriages is that you don't have to work out issues with your spouse--you can just rat on them to your other spouse. In a two-person marriage, a huge part about cooperating and getting over hurdles is communication. If something bothers you about what your spouse is doing, you talk to them about it. You discuss how you can change it. You should expect your spouse to keep you accountable in this same way, too. But when another person (or more people) are introduced into a marriage, you don't have the same commitment to help each other; if something goes wrong with one spouse, just give them the silent treatment for a while and leave them in utter confusion and depression while you spend all your other time with your other spouse/s.

I have quite a few more things to say on this subject, Shawn, so if you'd like to stimulate the conversation with me, I'd love that!
Thanks for posing this interesting question.
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Elspeth

Quote from: Shawn Sunshine on January 04, 2013, 11:03:27 PM
So do you think its a sin or a crime?

Notions of "sin" are by definition religious in nature. In the eyes of the state, only law and criminal statutes matter, and those can be changed by the will of the people.

Certainly Mormonism in its older form did not see polygamy as a sin, they saw it as a blessing and sometimes even as a duty. Various Muslim nations already support notions of multiple and shared wives... shared husbands? not so much, but they are there in the background and the history, if I can only persuade the Wardens to let me in.

Seems likely we'll continue to see the same icons used in much the same way they did before.
"Our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others. Past and present. And by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future."
- Sonmi-451 in Cloud Atlas
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Anatta

Kia Ora, [The more serious Zenda's thoughts]

::) If three consenting adults decide to marry each other and it was legal for them to do so, I can't see any problem with this...After all, it's their lives, their love triangle...But if you mean 'what's to stop a bisexual person male or female [legally already married to a opposite sex partner] going inter state and legally marrying a person of the same sex'...Wouldn't this be see as bigamy ? Or do bigamy laws differ from state to state ?

Metta Zenda :)
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RedFox

I've always thought that marriage should be open to more than two people.  I don't know if that makes me an anarchist or just liberal, but I never understood why "the state" felt they had a right to define 1) religious unions 2) civil unions 3) who you're allowed to love and commit your life to.

I think that once same-sex marriage is legalized throughout the nation the next great leap will be removing the two-person limit on marriage.  While I do believe that 98% of people wouldn't be interested in a marriage to more than one person, there's nothing wrong with the other 2% having multiple wives or husbands as long as everyone is aware and in agreement on the situation.

AND... Bigamy, being married to more then one person, always gets a bad rap because it's either done without the other spouses knowing about it or it's some crazy man marrying a woman and her sisters and her 14 year old daughters - that's just wrong.  But three or four adults that all agree to live together, love each other, contribute to a common household, and all participate in the raising of children?  Nothing wrong with that IMO.


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Kelly J. P.

 Being married to two people would probably be troublesome because of the enormous potential for drama and envy. It's possible for it to work out, certainly, but I don't tend to think that a three-way marriage working would be the probable outcome. As long as it's consistent with your religious beliefs, or lack thereof, you should do as you please so long as you're not hurting anyone and you have their consent.

It's not really my business. I don't think I could do any such thing, personally, but then again I'm not too sure I could even sustain a long-lasting relationship with a single person in ideal circumstances. I don't do very well outside of casual encounters. People aren't really my thing.
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Shawn Sunshine

Quote from: Reinhaven on January 04, 2013, 11:11:42 PM
I can't agree with this because I think a marriage is a unit for two.

When two join together, it signifies something much more than emotions bonding them together. It signifies trust. Loyalty. Honor for one another. Devotion. When you take time out of your day to be with someone, it shows that you care for them more than yourselves.

When you're with three or more people in a marital unit, things get complicated. You start choosing favorites. You can become distant from one spouse and chose the other over them. One of the biggest issues I see with multiple people marriages is that you don't have to work out issues with your spouse--you can just rat on them to your other spouse. In a two-person marriage, a huge part about cooperating and getting over hurdles is communication. If something bothers you about what your spouse is doing, you talk to them about it. You discuss how you can change it. You should expect your spouse to keep you accountable in this same way, too. But when another person (or more people) are introduced into a marriage, you don't have the same commitment to help each other; if something goes wrong with one spouse, just give them the silent treatment for a while and leave them in utter confusion and depression while you spend all your other time with your other spouse/s.

I have quite a few more things to say on this subject, Shawn, so if you'd like to stimulate the conversation with me, I'd love that!
Thanks for posing this interesting question.

Eh, but i can see myself being loyal and honest and true to more than 1 person. if we are all in agreement that we keep vows to each other then where is the problem in that?

However you make a good point about becoming distant with one of your spouses and they end up feeling like the 5th wheel and maybe you leave or they leave.
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Kevin Peña

Quote from: JasonRX on January 04, 2013, 10:59:00 PM
Most people aren't polygamists, bisexual or not...

So basically, no, I don't agree with this.

Well, most people aren't Zoroastrians. Does that make that particular faith "wrong?"

Majority views aren't necessarily right. After all, there was a time when the majority view was that racism was okay.



As for my opinion. As long as everyone is in consent, I don't care who, what, or how many you marry. Heck, one lady married the EIFFEL TOWER! She can do that, but polygamy is awful? Sure, let's go with that.  ::) If anything, it'll be good for the economy. Florists, caterers, etc. all working on multiple weddings.  :laugh:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2074301/Woman-with-objects-fetish-marries-Eiffel-Tower.html
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