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What is the Voice/Eye of God to you?

Started by Kimberly, June 03, 2007, 03:38:23 AM

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Kimberly

In part I am curious and in part I have a slightly deeper reason for asking, but never mind that.

I am curious what 'God' sounds like to you when 'He' talks to you.

Similar, what is it like if you have ever had 'God' look in upon you?

Again, thank you kindly for sating my curiosity, and please humbly forgive me for not sharing myself what I ask of you.
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tinkerbell

Interesting question, Kim  :).  I think that the best way to recognize the voice of God is to have a relationship with Him.  For example, if you happen to have a friend with whom you talk to on the telephone, you may not see him/her face to face but because you talk to him/her frequently, you are used to the tone of their voice.  You know when that person is happy, sad, crying, laughing or what have you, and why do you know how he/she sounds or feels? because you are in constant communication with that person.

I think it works the same with God.  If you spend enough time with Him, you  will know when He is speaking to you whether it is to reprimand you for something you have done or comfort you when you need Him the most.

tink :icon_chick:
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Kimberly

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TINY quick note, from what I know it is never in question when God is speaking to you; there is no lack of familiarity.'God' and Angels sound differently by the by. An in the same I do not recall EVER being reprimanded by anything divine. *shrug* anyway must dash...

Meh, perhaps this is too far out of a question for here, please pardon my curiosity if that is the case.
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tinkerbell

Hmmmm...I see what you are saying.  But my opinion is that if you consider God to be your Father like most Christians do, He can reprimand you from time to fime, just as our own parents would.  Yes, angels have a different voice.   I was taught that angels talk to you through your conscience; that litte internal voice you hear on a daily basis is the voice of your angel.  ;)

tink :icon_chick:
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Kimberly

Thank you so much for your thoughts Tink (=
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Celia

Pretty much just metaphor - benefitting us at best (confusing us at worst), but not really proper attributes of God.  Seriously, what could it possibly mean for God to have a voice or an eye? :)

-Celia
Only the young die young.
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Kimberly

*grin*



Oh, something else that is sort of... amusing. Note how we tend to be somewhat vocal about religion an stuffs yet this topic seems rather quiet... An I would have thought we would all have quite a lot of opinions too. ;)
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Celia

Ah, but the net of intellect captures so little of the ocean that is reality. 8)

-Celia
Only the young die young.
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Kimberly

*giggle* That could be ;) Really though I kind of think no one cares and or no one understands what I am asking. Either way works though I think, silence is an answer in and of itself anyway *grin*
(=
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Jessica

It's stupid and I really hesitate saying anything on this subject but, You're a friend and you asked.

I was very close to suicide, I was sitting on my bed.  I was crying, but not those sobbing cries, I was past that.  I was sitting there thinking about how, when, how it would affect those around me, if I could change the Karmic reprocussions somehow, if 'I've been good enough to balance out the negative.'  You know how Your mind goes round and round and round and You just can't really stop it?  All those thoughts suddenly stopped and I ... thought I heard? maybe just thought?  I don't know but it was a simple, "Hush Sweety, I love you and you'll be alright" ... the thing is... I am really not sure if I was awake, or fell asleep a few seconds later.  it either happened two seconds before I was asleep, or two seconds afterwards, I had thought I was sitting up, but that may have been dreaming, I don't know.  All I do know, is that those words have influenced my decisions since I heard / thought / dreamed them.

That's it.  I don't know if it was god, or my own concioussness, or my soul trying to prevent me from making a decision, I don't know what it was.  But, it was important.  I don't think it could have come from my own mind though simply because it was so against my own thoughts at the time.  I don't think my own mind, in that particular state, could have created that thought.

I wasn't drunk (I drink extremely rarely) and I don't do drugs.

Jessica
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Suzy

These are both anthropomorphisms, though very interesting ones and useful ones in our understanding of who God is.  In other words, we were created in God's image.  What this means has been the subject of much spilled ink for thousands of years.  However, it is apparent that if humans have abilities and are in the image of God, then God has similar abilities that go far beyond ours.  Does God truly have a physical hand, or a voice, or an eye, or wings, or a penis?  Of course not.  Yet all of these things are ascribed to God.  Why?  In order to understand things about God in terms that we can relate to.  Indeed that is what theology is:  faith seeking understanding.

As far as the voice of God, there are many scriptural descriptions, ranging all the way from the sound of thunder and many waters to a still small voice.  In different situations, God seems to speak differently.  God even once spoke through a donkey.  I like what theologian Karl Barth said:  "God can speak through a thunderstorm, a flute concerto, or even a dead dog."  Indeed, God can and does communicate with us, and wants to do so.  And, since communication is one of the primary signs of intelligence, if God is unable to communicate, we need to find a different God who can.  I also believe that these days God primarily speaks to us through the scriptures.  Often people say they never hear from God, but they also fail to spend time where God is speaking.  And in the final analysis, God communicated with us in the final word, the logos, the person of Jesus Christ.  In his life and ministry we see God's ideal for humankind.  But one thing is certain about a voice:  If we are not listening, it is all futility.

The eye of God is a fascinating study, and very much related the the voice of God.  However, it might be pointed out that whereas for us, hindsight is 20/20, for God, foresight, sidesight, backsight, slantsight, downsight, upsight .........  are all 20/20.  God's eye is infinitely more compound than that of the most advanced insect.  That is good news, because it means that God will be watching out for us and always has been, simultaneously.  Psalm 32:8 says, "I will instruct you and teach you in the way which you should go; I will counsel you with My eye upon you."

Kristi
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The Middle Way

I have no idea what an Eye of God might be. But why would it be limited to 20:20 vision?

The 'Voice' appears to me as a Fundamental Pure Tone. The rest, harmonically, is down to us.

TMW
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Frank

Kimberly,

For what it is worth the first time the Lord spoke to me I was in an airplane and at that exact second all sound stopped. People's mouths moved but it was quiet as cannot be described by my mere words. I was leaving the military at the time and he said "It's not over yet" just as the wheels left the runway. I knew then that as I take my flight, or journey I would be a soldier in a different kind of Army.

The second time the Lord spoke to me the same thing happened. Everything went quiet. There was no sound coming out of the living room from the fish tank airator and the sounds stopped from the refridgerator as well as the radio. Just a still and quiet I cannot explain to do it justice. It was at that second he told me where my ministry would go.

As for the Lord coming to look on me, I have been praying while kneeling forward on the floor with my hands stretched out in front of me and physically felt him brush my hands with his robe. As with the other times in which he spoke to me, there is a peace and quiet that cannot be described as the presence of his Spirit comes into the room.

Those are the distinctly different times.
It doesn't always happen just like those.
Hope it helps,
Frank
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Audrey

Don't quite know whether to call it god, but sometimes my inner voice tells me things.  The only way I can differentiate it from my own thoughts is that the voice says "you" when it is referring to me.  Intution?  Who knows, but it has told me some things that would seem like premonition. 

For example when i was going to school in wyoming, I was graduating and my parents where coming to town.  I had not talked to them for few days and only knew vaguely what time they would get there.  So there I was vegging in my apt. when my inner voice said "you need to go use the phone and call the hotel".  At the time I could not afford a cell phone so I had to walk to a nearby pay phone, so it wasn't exactly convienient.  So I grabbed some change and headed to the phone.  When i called the hotel they were at the front desk literally just checking in.  Kind of weird.

Another time I had a dream, very vivid, about my aunt and uncle getting a divorce.  Well I told my sister about it and her jaw dropped.  My mom had just told her about them having marrital problems, earlier that day.  I hadn't talked to any of my family members for at least a few days so there was no way i could have known.

Audrey
(ameutur psychic chic)   :D
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bethzerosix

i have spent a lot of time talking with god... usually it just me rambling on and on..usually about gid stuff.  when i hear his voice it is internal and usually the answer to a question that i am asking almost precedes the question.

Quote from: Audrey on February 02, 2008, 08:03:39 PM

For example when i was going to school in wyoming, I was graduating and my parents where coming to town.  I had not talked to them for few days and only knew vaguely what time they would get there.  So there I was vegging in my apt. when my inner voice said "you need to go use the phone and call the hotel".  At the time I could not afford a cell phone so I had to walk to a nearby pay phone, so it wasn't exactly convienient.  So I grabbed some change and headed to the phone.  When i called the hotel they were at the front desk literally just checking in.  Kind of weird.

Another time I had a dream, very vivid, about my aunt and uncle getting a divorce.  Well I told my sister about it and her jaw dropped.  My mom had just told her about them having marrital problems, earlier that day.  I hadn't talked to any of my family members for at least a few days so there was no way i could have known.

Audrey
(ameutur psychic chic)   :D

i have had similar experiences.
Set me as a seal upon thine heart, as a seal upon thine arm: for love is strong as death; jealousy is cruel as the grave: the coals thereof are coals of fire, which hath a most vehement flame.
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tekla

The closest thing to the eye of god are the photos of deep space from the Hubble and Chandra telescopes.

The Voice of God is any off stage mike running into the sound system, or so my manual says.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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janet

I heard the voice this morning in that moment between sleep and awakening, as disembodied words which were clearly not my thoughts.  I've been struggling with serious finanancial difficulties for the past 6 months or so, at a scale which could put my transition at risk.  I've prayed for faith that it will all work out, while doing my best to do the footwork.  Yesterday I found that my health insurance is no longer paying for my bi-weekly estradiol shots (which they had covered initially), and I fell back into that fear of financial insecurity.  I brought that fear up as an AA meeting topic, and one of the shares which I heard focused on how fear can be a stepping stone to growth.  This threw my thinking down a track which I avoid, the "why this / why me / why now" question, which was in my head as I fell asleep.  As I awoke, I heard the words "to toughen you up for transition".

It's always a comfort to hear from my higher power, but that's not an altogether comforting message - but it quieted my heart, just for today.

Janet Eileen, praying to G-d as I don't understand G-d.
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Kinkly

I believe God Lives in all living things
I try to see god in everyone i meet and really try to hear god in what they say and do sometimes god says things through me or reminds me of different experances to tell me things, mostly to comfort me
I don't want to be a man there from Mars
I'd Like to be a woman Venus looks beautiful
I'm enjoying living on Pluto, but it is a bit lonely
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Kimberly

Eek. I hadn't noticed this thread was replied to..


Quote from: Tink on June 03, 2007, 05:36:16 PM
But my opinion is that if you consider God to be your Father like most Christians do, He can reprimand you from time to fime, just as our own parents would.
I mentioned I have never once had recollection of being reprimanded, that still holds true. I have, however and to my dismay, disappointed. But in that, recrimination it is not. *shrug* Such is neither the topic nor the point of interest however.

Quote from: Jessica on June 04, 2007, 08:28:37 AM
I don't know but it was a simple, "Hush Sweety, I love you and you'll be alright" ... the thing is... I am really not sure if I was awake, or fell asleep a few seconds later.
It is such as this which is exactly what I mean by the voice of God.



Quote from: Kristi on June 04, 2007, 12:15:28 PM
These are both anthropomorphisms
Basically. We are in a human context and as such tend to relate in human terms. This is expected. What is, is so far beyond what is human as to be incompressible. However, what else do you call the voice "in your head" which is not your own?  Not that I understand every voice to be that of Father but meh.


Quote from: Kristi on June 04, 2007, 12:15:28 PM
Often people say they never hear from God, but they
If I may, they do not hear because they do not listen. It is, frankly, as simple as that.


Quote from: Kristi on June 04, 2007, 12:15:28 PM
In his life and ministry...
As far as I know a religion was never what was wanted but meh. Such is not the topic.


Quote from: Kristi on June 04, 2007, 12:15:28 PM
The eye of God is a fascinating study,
But to be fair, not what I was trying to discern. Although very interesting, thank you.

Quote from: Frank on February 02, 2008, 07:49:46 PM
It doesn't always happen just like those.
Basically exactly what I was querying about. Thank you.


Quote from: Audrey on February 02, 2008, 08:03:39 PM
Kind of weird.
*soft smile*


Quote from: bethzerosix on February 02, 2008, 11:24:04 PM
i have spent a lot of time talking with god... usually it just me rambling on and on..usually about gid stuff.  when i hear his voice it is internal and usually the answer to a question that i am asking almost precedes the question.
*Wince* Reminds me when I was full on ranting and NOT being exactly polite in the privacy of my mind. *snort* Privacy? *dry chuckle* What was said freaked me out enough to toast my train of thought, that is for certain. I just wish I had some validate of that thought, given it's not only Father whom speaks to me. (An I am going to back hand the next enlightened spirit that wasn't to butt in tell me I am Jesus I swear. -- Not too friendly am I? *snort*)


Quote from: janet on February 16, 2008, 10:08:56 AM
I heard the voice this morning in that moment between sleep and awakening, as disembodied words which were clearly not my thoughts.
Again, exactly what I was querying about.

Quote from: janet on February 16, 2008, 10:08:56 AM
As I awoke, I heard the words "to toughen you up for transition".
Truth that, transition is a hard thing no doubt.



Anyway, I am terribly sorry for neglecting this thread, it eluded me. Thank you all so much!
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