Quote from: Nygeel on February 11, 2013, 11:32:29 AM
And that makes me feel icky. I'm not in between, a holy grail, or some perfect mixture of body parts for somebody.

Sorry to jump into the mens forum yet again but I feel I must say something to this.

We all have kinks and preferances. We all expect our lovers to be ok with our own personal baggage, and issues and we expect that our desires will be met by our lovers.
I personaly have few issues being that 'perfect bisexual experiance' for my lover. Because trust me, if someone is going to lay in my bed they are going to have to engage my kinks if they expect me to engage in thier kinks.
It is a two way street ya know.

Also there is the entire issue surrounding shaming someone over their sexual preferances. Myself, I prefer trans* bodies. I find the blend of male and female traits of the trans* body to be very exciting and mind blowing. Why? IDK. It is what it is. I can't just reach into my brain and switch a switch and sudenly not be attracted to trans* bodies.


Again, sorry to stick my nose in this thread two times in the last few days.

Quote from: Zerro on February 11, 2013, 01:40:49 PM
To be honest, I don't feel like sexuality has much to do with your own gender in the long run

I agree. And I also agree with previous posters that trans people are more open to admitting to themselves they're anything but straight. There's more sheep than shepards in the cis population.

Quote from: cynthialee on February 11, 2013, 02:28:51 PM

Myself, I prefer trans* bodies. I find the blend of male and female traits of the trans* body to be very exciting and mind blowing. Why? IDK. It is what it is. I can't just reach into my brain and switch a switch and sudenly not be attracted to trans* bodies.

Well, somebody's got to want us. I actually think I'd be more turned off by someone who needs 'rooster' but 'wuvs me anyway'. Probably cause I've had rooster. And uh... I don't want someone dreaming about cockle-doodle-doo in bed with me. 

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Again, sorry to stick my nose in this thread two times in the last few days.

You're more than welcome here. We could use a lady's opinion.

Quote from: Not-so Fat Admin on February 11, 2013, 12:33:35 PM

The only person I'd accept the 'man lite' attitude from would be a straight guy. Let him frame it however he needs to frame it as long as I get that ass.

But yeah, I wouldn't mind if a girl or guy wanted me for my pussy. That'd probably be a real turn on actually

Thanks I needed to snort my drink out my nose!! Made me laugh ^^

Quote from: cynthialee on February 11, 2013, 02:28:51 PM
Myself, I prefer trans* bodies. I find the blend of male and female traits of the trans* body to be very exciting and mind blowing. Why? IDK. It is what it is.

And I'm not a blend of male and female traits. That's the problem I have. If you're saying that all trans bodies are that way then you are invalidating my experiences, my expression, and my identity and that's not something I'm okay with. Plus, there are plenty of cisgender people who have "androgynous bodies."

See, my issue is the generalizing of trans bodies being one way when not all are. Saying "I like bodies that I consider androgynous" is slightly better, but it's still labeling a person's body in a way that they might not want.

The only problem with that nygeel is where to draw the line, I'll be well over the top, but if a goat is a goat, it's probably going to be a goat, unless we went the "whole way" (as my cod friends put it) we pretty much do have a little from column a and a little from column b, wether we like it or not


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Quote from: Geek on February 11, 2013, 04:58:42 PM
The only problem with that nygeel is where to draw the line, I'll be well over the top, but if a goat is a goat, it's probably going to be a goat, unless we went the "whole way" (as my cod friends put it) we pretty much do have a little from column a and a little from column b, wether we like it or not


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No.
Here's a link to an article that kind of explains it but does so in regards to race instead of being cis or trans

Quote from: Nygeel on February 11, 2013, 05:24:04 PM

Quote from: Geek on February 11, 2013, 04:58:42 PM
The only problem with that nygeel is where to draw the line, I'll be well over the top, but if a goat is a goat, it's probably going to be a goat, unless we went the "whole way" (as my cod friends put it) we pretty much do have a little from column a and a little from column b, wether we like it or not


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No.
Here's a link to an article that kind of explains it but does so in regards to race instead of being cis or trans

Hmm I'm not into Black dudes. I've been tempted a few times, but yall are just way too masculine for me. 
I really like Black girls on the other hand. Also, I prefer Mexicans. Is that racist of me to say? Or be? Cause I'm not doing it to be racist. That's just what I like. I simply don't find most white men as attractive as Latinos. I really don't see it all that different from someone liking blonds over brunettes. I like long black hair and golden brown skin. I don't like tall, hairy men - the majority of whites. Most short, non hairy men with long black hair and golden skin are Latino. I like black hair, big butts and wide hips. Most women who fit these traits are either Black or Latina.

People are going to have preferences.

That would be racism and racial stereotypes.

Quote from: Nygeel on February 11, 2013, 05:39:45 PM
That would be racism and racial stereotypes.

Or generalisation in order to describe preferences.  As long as someone is clear that there may be exceptions to the rule and they're not judging someone before getting to know them then I can't honestly see the problem.  A lot of people are so careful not to offend and be politically correct these days that it causes more bother than it does good.

I'm probably something near demisexual - I can't be bothered to spend energy working it out because it's just not important - but everyone I've been into or with has had dyed hair and poor eyesight.  Does that mean that I'm ableist and think people who don't dye their hair is less worthy or something?  Not at all.

Quote from: Nygeel on February 11, 2013, 05:39:45 PM
That would be racism and racial stereotypes.

LOLOL it's called a preference.
By your logic, saying you like girls and not guys is sexist.
And saying you're not into your own gender is homophobic.
XD

I asked my friends(of color.) what they thought about what you said, and they all think it's just ridiculous and
it's not racist what so ever to prefer an ethnicity over another. They also thought it's funny how most people
that call out ''racism'' about liking one ethnicity over another are actually white.

Just had to say it.

Not-so Fat Admin: We all have preferences. Noting wrong with that.
                              Me, I like tall, white girls, with very dark hair. No idea why.
                             

QuoteLet him frame it however he needs to frame it as long as I get that ass.

You said it comrade.  I don't much care what straight dudes think I am as long as I get to nail them.

Quote from: ~RoadToTrista~ on February 11, 2013, 12:12:53 PM
You sound like you're afraid to step on toes, lol.

You're right. But that's because I have Asperger's, which gives me a permanent case of foot-in-mouth disease. It's hard for me to know if someone will take offense at my words so I have to be super-careful.

Quote from: Nygeel on February 11, 2013, 05:39:45 PM
That would be racism and racial stereotypes.

Not at all - any more than attraction to a particular sex is sexism. We each find certain traits attractive and others unattractive.

We're all entitled to our tastes. Racism is a completely different ball game.

Black guys are too masculine is a racial stereotype, and is racist...this is like racism 101.

...I think my brain hurts now. And I thought having a part of me that is attracted to pretty much everyone yet hates sexual things with a passion was weird lol

Racism has grown into such a large...catch all. And here I thought racism was just hating and purposefully discriminating against solely because they're Mexican/Black/Asian/Irish/ect.

As for the original topic, I don't know but if it moves, tap that. 

Quote from: Not-so Fat Admin on February 11, 2013, 05:37:09 PM
Hmm I'm not into Black dudes. I've been tempted a few times, but yall are just way too masculine for me. 

Quote from: Nygeel on February 11, 2013, 05:54:28 PM
Black guys are too masculine is a racial stereotype, and is racist...this is like racism 101.

I think black guys have big dicks..

OMG I'M SOOO RACIST FOR SAYING THAT! OMG OMG!!


By the way;
It's actually an opinion.
See the part in bold.

Quote from: Frank on February 11, 2013, 06:01:50 PM
Racism has grown into such a large...catch all. And here I thought racism was just hating and purposefully discriminating against solely because they're Mexican/Black/Asian/Irish/ect.

That's what it is.
Some people just enjoy taking things to the over complicated extreme.

Quote from: AlexanderC on February 11, 2013, 05:45:09 PM

Or generalisation in order to describe preferences.  As long as someone is clear that there may be exceptions to the rule and they're not judging someone before getting to know them then I can't honestly see the problem.  A lot of people are so careful not to offend and be politically correct these days that it causes more bother than it does good.

Yep. It's just easier to say 'I like Latinos' than to go into all that. I mean sure, some don't look like that and maybe some people of other races might. Also, the vast majority of Latinos I've been with wanted me because I was white and blond and blue eyed. So, it goes both ways. And there are flat booty-ed Black women out there. And a few white women with nice behinds. But in general, if I want a big booty, I'm looking for a Black chick.
And you know, maybe there's a hot non-masculine black dude out there I haven't met yet. Who knows? But the majority I've met are quite masculine. Which isn't a bad thing. Just not what I'm looking for.

And remember this is just a sexual preference. Not what I feel about people of a certain race in general. But in general, I like dark hair, dark skin, etc. I can't count how many times I've been wanted for being a blond, blue eyed 'wetta' or however it's spelled. So, it's not just whites who prefer looks common to certain races.

Honestly, I think language is becoming too complicated and unwieldy. Why can't we just say what we mean anymore? Why all the qualifiers? We keep going down this ultra PC road and everybody will be afraid to speak at all. Honestly, half the time I'm nervous to post on this board. I don't feel that way on the rest of the forums.

Isn't there danger of crying RACISM about innocuous uses of language when in reality, the quibble here is about specificity ?  Doesn't it trivialize actual, harmful, destructive systemic racism to throw the term around someone who is just talking about their preferences over who they are attracted to?

If we're hung up on language, then maybe we shouldn't obscure the weight of serious, important words that represent forces that have destroyed lives with violence in the course of petty squabbles in an innocent conversation.

I don't think having mere preferences for one type of look or another is necessarily racist. I think it can be depending on the underlying circumstances; like if I liked Asian women because they're mysterious, obedient, and quiet, then yeah, I think that could be racist. But, I think many Arab/Persian/Indian women are beautiful-I love the skin colors, the eye shapes, and yeah... I even think hijab is quite beautiful on many of the women who wear it. But, I have great respect for the various middle-eastern/North African cultures, even tried learning one of the languages, I've read a lot about Islam and the pre-Islamic religions, and I have some friends from the region. I don't think that makes me racist.

On the other side, I am also part Native American (though mostly of Irish descent), and I think there is some insensitivities when some of the native American cultures are fetishized, like Las vegas showgirls going around in tribal headdresses. But, it really doesn't bother me. I've also had people make comments about my "beautiful high cheekbones", and while I think out of anything on my face, it's the cheekbones you like  , I know they don't mean offense and if they like my cheekbones then that's fine with me.

i like my girls curvy and preferably rocking pinup clothing *drool*

i dont think theres wrong with having a preference, i havent been with anyone of any ethnicity really, and thats not to say i wouldnt go there, but i havent met someone i click with that happens to be, that being said, its not a racist thing, its just life, if a person with sexy mocha skin didnt want to bang me cos i was white i wouldnt think it was racist, id just be all like, ok cool, enjoy what ever flavor person you do enjoy sexy times with. people are going to cry out RACIST/ SEXIST / BLAH-IST / WHATEVER just because they can, like its some kind of moral highground, it doesnt make you better than someone else, it just means you met someone you wanted to romance/bang/whatever with and that makes you happy, as long as things are kept respectful im okay with that.