Kia Ora,

Some see transition as an 'ongoing' thing, in other words we are continually evolving, and even after one has gone "Full Time" their transition is still in progress...

And the term "Full Time" can also hold different meanings for different people...
For example, when one finally admits to oneself "This is who I am!" their 'behaviour might change somewhat[more expressive of who they are], but not necessarily their physical appearance and dress, and as far as this person is concerned they are now living "Full Time" as their 'preferred gender even though their physical appearance has not changed, they have begun to express themselves in a more feminine or masculine manner...

For others [I'm guessing the vast majority] "Full Time" simply means name change, HRT, dress sense = "24/7"

So when it comes to being "Full Time" how to you see it ?

Remember it's a personal thing, so there's no right or wrong answers, for example one person might say they are Full Time but still continue to revert back to birth-sex mode when having to interact in certain environments...Now this may not personally be 'my' idea of what constitutes  'Full Time" but it is for that particular person...
 

Metta Zenda

For me, it was living as the true me, 24/7.  No boy mode,even if "he" had an appointment.  I was "out" at work and in everything else.

And that began in 2008.

Kia Ora Ms O,

Thanks for your response...

I've heard the argument put forward by some, when it comes to having to do the "RLE" which involves 'dressing' and living out the gender role Full Time=The whole nine yards... "Why should I be subjected to this, when I've been Full Time all my life!" Even though they have hardly [or in some cases never] been out in public using a female/male name, nor wearing the female attire [F2Ms do have the advantage of being able to wear male clothing in public  prior to 'coming out']...

So I guess in a sense this thread also relates to what "RLE" means...

Metta Zenda

It was the same for me. When you start being your true self all the time. That's full time

It is somewhat difficult discussing such a ethereal topic with a pragmatist like myself.

In the majority of cases I see the English language as a series of definites, absolutes.

Death = absolute no brain activity, compounded with major organ failure.
Life = point in time when the egg is penetrated by the sperm creating the first cell division. Not some obscure determination that 11 weeks or whatever the pro abortion lobby have agreed on.
Etc, etc.

Any deviation from the clinical meaning of words must compromise the integrity of its meaning, rendering it almost useless. Otherwise I can legitimately abuse the determination of words to my own benefit. Example; when I feel I'm prepared, in the zone, ready - mentally, physically and emotionally; I can start a race, not when the starters flag falls. I don't recognise the starters right to declare the race started simply by dropping a piece of material. So why am I excluded from participating in the race?

As you can see; my understanding of "Full Time," may be something well off the spirit of this post.

Thank you for bearing with me

Huggs
Catherine

For me it was the moment he completely died, and I started to exist, in the real world. He is merely a memory now, no legal documents, banks, anything that shows he exists.  That is full time for me!.

Quote from: Catherine Sarah on March 02, 2013, 09:07:14 PM
It is somewhat difficult discussing such a ethereal topic with a pragmatist like myself.

In the majority of cases I see the English language as a series of definites, absolutes.

Death = absolute no brain activity, compounded with major organ failure.
Life = point in time when the egg is penetrated by the sperm creating the first cell division. Not some obscure determination that 11 weeks or whatever the pro abortion lobby have agreed on.
Etc, etc.

Any deviation from the clinical meaning of words must compromise the integrity of its meaning, rendering it almost useless. Otherwise I can legitimately abuse the determination of words to my own benefit. Example; when I feel I'm prepared, in the zone, ready - mentally, physically and emotionally; I can start a race, not when the starters flag falls. I don't recognise the starters right to declare the race started simply by dropping a piece of material. So why am I excluded from participating in the race?

As you can see; my understanding of "Full Time," may be something well off the spirit of this post.

Thank you for bearing with me

Huggs
Catherine

Kia Ora Cousin Catherine from over the ditch,[Heard on the news it's been the hottest summer on record for Oz]

Re your response :

....Do you present as 'Lady' Catherine to the general public, all of the time = 'full time' or some/most of the time=part time ?

Metta Zenda

Hello Kuan Yin,
It's so good to catch up again. I always find your thoughts to have a deep and meaningful presence. This one is no exception. Or would you be more comfortable with the traditional Ozzie (Ocker) greeting?  Eeeeerrr (typically used to clear the throat from last nights over indulgence)  G'day Blue. Howsya goin' cobber?

Although it wasn't the hottest one on record here, we did have some very serious bush fires in the south and west, obviously making it artificially hot, balanced by flooding in the north. Yes we try to appease all comers across the "pond."

Before I reply to your question, I'm not sure whether from my pragmatic pulpit I can accept the title you bestowed on me as  "Lady." I am indeed honoured you have ascended me to such lofty heights, as I'm in fear I may fall and shatter beyond salvation and recognition.

{Lady - (def) a woman of refinement. A polite name for any woman }  A bit of a high card to play on this side of the "creek". 

Nevertheless. In reply to your question. Yes indeed I present to the world, in heart, mind, soul and spirit 24/7/366 a hopefully refined woman as Catherine. Dressed age appropriate in most cases with the exception of washing the car. It has been commented my skirt may err a little on the side of brevity. Soon my physical reconstruction will be complete thus full filling the title of full time in every aspect.

As the previous entity that existed as a ill fitting paper mâché masked exterior is no longer in existence (RIP Paul 1950 - 2011) it is I, Catherine, who presents a remarkable woman to world, as it is known today. (If he'd have any sense, he would have cleared out years ago. He didn't realise it, I was the one behind him the whole time. I was and still am the brains of the organisation. He was only the front man, the fall guy. )

So from my ultra pragmatic pedestal, yes I am a woman "Full Time" with exclusions. All current legal documents do reflect this cultural change.

Hope to see more of you.

Huggs
Catherine

Full time?

In practice I think it means the point at which you live your life as the person you are. In my case I'm 24/7  365 female . I own no male clothes, so I present as me everywhere professionally and privately.

I was asked, and please this isn't a macabre statement it is a fact I live with, how will you present at your wife's funeral?

My answer, as me! A woman whose name is Cindy who is married to an incredible woman and a person that I would never insult publicly or privately by not being me.

Oh and throwing away all the boy clothes does have problems. I was washing my car this afternoon and the only 'work' clothes I had was an old denim mini and a halter top, my shorts were in the wash.

Two male neighbours come over to help, I thought that was kind, but they stood around talking and watching more than helping.

Never did understand guys.

For me personally full time is both in the physical and mental realm. I will be full time when I meet both of them. Physically will be when I present as female 100% of the time and I no longer need to present as male and I'm interacting with new people as female. Mentally is when I finally look in the mirror and I see the girl I want to see. That's when I feel like I will be truly full time.

Well, if you don't mind the return of Miss Pragmatist, I think everyone is full time.

The term has to be taken in its entirety

Full, being an adverb implies "full to the greatest degree or extent; completely or entirely," which elicits a finality or termination of the process. Fortunately the "time" part of the title permits a time element into the statement, thus granting an absolution to an absolute finality.

Meaning. If you are committed to being complete and entirely, but you don't have time related conditions fulfilled; birth cert, license, passport etc, etc; then you can still be classified as "Full Time."

I apologise if I hi-jacked the thread and turned it into Semantics 101

Huggs
Miss Pragmatic

Quote from: Catherine Sarah on March 03, 2013, 04:58:43 AM
Well, if you don't mind the return of Miss Pragmatist, I think everyone is full time.

The term has to be taken in its entirety

Full, being an adverb implies "full to the greatest degree or extent; completely or entirely," which elicits a finality or termination of the process. Fortunately the "time" part of the title permits a time element into the statement, thus granting an absolution to an absolute finality.

Meaning. If you are committed to being complete and entirely, but you don't have time related conditions fulfilled; birth cert, license, passport etc, etc; then you can still be classified as "Full Time."

I apologise if I hi-jacked the thread and turned it into Semantics 101

Huggs
Miss Pragmatic

Just because you don't wear heels with sox

Quote from: Cindy James on March 03, 2013, 05:01:12 AM
Just because you don't wear heels with sox SOCKS!!!for gods sakes

Corrections by Miss Pragmatic (the English  )


Well who does wear socks with heels??

I sense a poll coming on similar to my recent nasal poll, unless I'm ..............

Quote from: Catherine Sarah on March 03, 2013, 05:05:16 AM
Well who does wear socks with heels??

Sort of like Big Foot. Both are non-existent and are associated with the foot Maybe Big Foot wears heels with socks? 0_o

Who else thinks Catherine has a foot fetish?

Puts them into her mouth, has a thing about socks, fancies Cindy's feet (well some foot worship is OK).

Mmm

Next thing you know she will be the new pope and washing them in public.

Quote from: Cindy James on March 03, 2013, 05:01:12 AM
Just because you don't wear heels with sox

Boston Red Sox or Chicago White Sox?

Quote from: V M on March 03, 2013, 06:32:18 AM
Boston Red Sox or Chicago White Sox?

Oh NO!! Are there football baseball teams now wearing socks, or heels or both?  When will this EVER end??

The shame, the humiliation of it all.

I sense a gross attack of agarophobia coming on. I have heels BUT no socks. Can I EVER go out in public again??

Please help
Huggs
A Lost Soul (without socks)

LOL... Baseball teams

Quote from: V M on March 03, 2013, 06:47:04 AM
LOL... Baseball teams

I knew that ............................ NOT   

Baseball = Cricket
Football = Soccer.