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Has anyone called you brave?

Started by kathy bottoms, March 24, 2013, 05:58:35 PM

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Alainaluvsu

Quote from: kathy b on March 25, 2013, 01:32:07 PM
I've pretty much decided now to take any kind of support from anyone who is actually concerned, and caring.  After all it should be easy to let the word "Brave" go by, and it's far better than the friend who said he could live with my "lifestyle choice".  That one really stopped me cold on the tracks, and the former friend made it worse by arguing that it was a choice. 

Kathy

Well... it kinda is. Be miserable living a lie or not. Why anybody has a problem with not is beyond me...
To dream of the person you would like to be is to waste the person you are.



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kathy bottoms

Quote from: Brooke777 on March 25, 2013, 01:47:43 PM
Wait, you made a lifestyle choice? So...do you live in a nudist colony now?  ;)

Quote from: Alainaluvsu on March 25, 2013, 03:00:09 PM
Well... it kinda is. Be miserable living a lie or not. Why anybody has a problem with not is beyond me...

He kept telling me I have a choice in everything.  Wine, beer, cars and jobs.  It really didn't matter what I said because his mind was made up.  The only time he called after that was when he needed help fixing something in his house.  I've ignored him for two months, and just don't want to talk to him anymore.

Kathy
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Alainaluvsu

It's kinda easy to get rid of people like that, isn't it? Funny how you thought before transition it would be so hard but when the time comes your way of thinking about them completely changes.
To dream of the person you would like to be is to waste the person you are.



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Shodan

Quote from: Alainaluvsu on March 25, 2013, 03:00:09 PM
Well... it kinda is. Be miserable living a lie or not. Why anybody has a problem with not is beyond me...

Or to expound on it: We don't have a choice on whether we're Trans. We have a choice on what we do about it. I would be offended if somebody told me I was being brave for being Trans, but not if they were recognizing some action I had done that is, quite frankly, scary to do. Like coming out. I think coming out is a brave thing to do, because you're opening yourself to hurt, and it takes courage to do so.




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Natkat

I been called brave, and simular things due to being trans,

I dont feel very brave even when its ment as a compliment, but on the other hand I feel most of the people who gives me those compliments are people who still are in the closet at a point so for them im brave cause im out as myself and there not. :P
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Carolina1983

Yes too many times. And I dont like it because it makes it sound as if I had a choice. It wasnt!


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V M

I've never really understood it when people have called me brave for one reason or another, trans related or not

It has always been a bit confusing to me because I don't consider myself brave and usually it has been the result of my being scared to death and just handling a situation as best as I could

I understand that it is usually meant as a compliment when someone says you are brave, but I don't like it much because it makes me feel somewhat embarrassed for some reason
The main things to remember in life are Love, Kindness, Understanding and Respect - Always make forward progress

Superficial fanny kissing friends are a dime a dozen, a TRUE FRIEND however is PRICELESS


- V M
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kira21 ♡♡♡

Quote from: kathy b on March 25, 2013, 04:23:59 PM
He kept telling me I have a choice in everything.  Wine, beer, cars and jobs.  It really didn't matter what I said because his mind was made up.  The only time he called after that was when he needed help fixing something in his house.  I've ignored him for two months, and just don't want to talk to him anymore.

Kathy

Haha, I suppose you do have a choice at least in the same way he chooses to live as a man! :-) 
(I am not *really* agreeing with him if you read that how I said it in my head!)

Damian

I've never been called brave. My family never reall says they're proud, and are rather stingy with compliments, so when my friend, who is a manly man who was originally against my transition, told me he was proud of me, I broke down crying.
Love has no gender.
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kira21 ♡♡♡

Quote from: Damian on March 26, 2013, 05:41:45 PM
I've never been called brave. My family never reall says they're proud, and are rather stingy with compliments, so when my friend, who is a manly man who was originally against my transition, told me he was proud of me, I broke down crying.

My family too. It made me the opposite.

Rachel85

I recently came out to my family and I got a few "your brave to tell us" and "it was very courageous to do this" ad I don't see that as a negative at all, I see that as them recognising how hard it was for me to put myself out there and at their scrutiny. I agree that transitioning on one hand isn't brave cos to us it's not a choice but at the same time I know a lot of people who I wouldn't imagine would be able to do what I have done or go through with transitioning.

Quote from: Saffron on March 25, 2013, 02:11:51 PM
If you're still alive and transitioning/ned, then by definition you're brave  ;)


Very true!

I'm funny about some words, I've never really like "proud" cos it denotes an expectation and if that expectation wasn't met then would there be shame? Anyway, I'll try not get caught up in semantics! unrelated topic!
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MaidofOrleans

When I told my Dad that I had notified work he said:

Dad - "So you're really going through with this?"

Me - "Ya..."

Dad - "Well, you're very brave."

Me - "ok, well I don't see myself as brave."

and that was my first being called brave. Somehow I think he thought I was going to chicken out on transition  ::) :P.
"For transpeople, using the right pronoun is NOT simply a 'political correctness' issue. It's core to the entire struggle transpeople go through. Using the wrong pronoun means 'I don't recognize you as who you are.' It means 'I think you're confused, delusional, or mentally I'll.'. It means 'you're not important enough for me to acknowledge your struggle.'"
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NJade

Interesting. I was doing a Q&A with a college class last week where I gave them permission to ask me anything and they did...one even asked to see my vagina in the interests os science. I found it humorous and ultimately enjoyed the experience of talking with a bunch of cis folk about what it means to me to be trans and how it has affected my life.

At the end of the class, the professor told me how he thought I was very brave. I told him I'm used to working in front of students and he clarified that I was brave to have transitioned. I downplayed it, like I do, because generally, I don't see self-preservation as an act of bravery. At the same time, thinking about it, some of the bravest heroes in history and fiction have often acted in self-preservation and we call them brave.

Am I brave, she that not only bears, but invites the whips and scorns of time, the oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely?

Well, yes. I am. I say to the world that my survival is worthy and worthy on my terms and damn those who think I should have done differently. I stand up and I say that I am a person of value and deserve a chance to live my very best life and, by doing so, hopefully show others that they, too, can risk to be who they are, to live authentically.

So if someone says that I am brave, I nod, smile, and say, "Thank you very much."

I'm glad they can see the truth and speak it.

N.J.
"...the status is not quo." - Dr. Horrible
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Tristan

Quote from: NJade on March 27, 2013, 11:18:33 PM
Interesting. I was doing a Q&A with a college class last week where I gave them permission to ask me anything and they did...one even asked to see my vagina in the interests os science. I found it humorous and ultimately enjoyed the experience of talking with a bunch of cis folk about what it means to me to be trans and how it has affected my life.

At the end of the class, the professor told me how he thought I was very brave. I told him I'm used to working in front of students and he clarified that I was brave to have transitioned. I downplayed it, like I do, because generally, I don't see self-preservation as an act of bravery. At the same time, thinking about it, some of the bravest heroes in history and fiction have often acted in self-preservation and we call them brave.

Am I brave, she that not only bears, but invites the whips and scorns of time, the oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely?

Well, yes. I am. I say to the world that my survival is worthy and worthy on my terms and damn those who think I should have done differently. I stand up and I say that I am a person of value and deserve a chance to live my very best life and, by doing so, hopefully show others that they, too, can risk to be who they are, to live authentically.

So if someone says that I am brave, I nod, smile, and say, "Thank you very much."

I'm glad they can see the truth and speak it.

N.J.
Haha this is true. I have also had people to ask me if the can see my vagina and boobs from both men and women
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kathy bottoms

Quote from: MaidofOrleans on March 27, 2013, 10:16:20 PM
When I told my Dad that I had notified work he said:

Dad - "So you're really going through with this?"

Me - "Ya..."

Dad - "Well, you're very brave."

Me - "ok, well I don't see myself as brave."

and that was my first being called brave. Somehow I think he thought I was going to chicken out on transition  ::) :P.

I think a lot of parents have the same problem as everyone else when it comes to understanding how we are compelled to change.  My wife said a similar thing as we drove to my sons house to talk to both of our boys.   There was something said about bravery, and then she made an odd comment like "You'd better be right about this."      Huh!  No Sh*t. 

Kathy
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