Quote from: Tesla on April 15, 2013, 12:22:37 PM
The apparent phenomenon has never been documented and is, with no intended offense, at this moment completely anecdotal.

That's why I was offering to document it once I start HRT.  It might be interesting!  (But I'm the girl that's keeping a graph of her weight...)

Quote from: Anna Michele on April 15, 2013, 12:25:10 PM
That's why I was offering to document it once I start HRT.  It might be interesting!  (But I'm the girl that's keeping a graph of her weight...)

Yes, please document your progress. It may shed light on this.

Quote from: Dahlia on April 15, 2013, 11:51:33 AM
Yes, consider this kind of stories as a case of wild  MTF imagination.

Got scientific evidence?

The point is, dear, we're not here to be scientists, we're here to be a support community. Unless you're ready to scurry about measuring people, you'll just have to take their word for it. Now, are you going to apologize for being rude? Hugs, Devlyn

I have proof I have definitely shrunk,I first went to my Doctor in 1988 when I moved.I was measured at 6'4",early this year I had lost 2 and a half inches.I haven't osteoporosis,it could be an age thing(55) or as the nurse said a combination of age and losing fat from the soles of my feet.

I've been on and off hormones half my life, I've shrunk 1/2 inch over 68 years.  Doctor's measurement.  But, even Doctor's offices can measure you wrong, a little slouch, slight lean, etc. and you are shorter or taller.

I have never seen proof that a person shrinks due to HRT.  I have seen people grow taller when they come from an area where they eat poorly and then start a good diet and grow (my ex brother-in-law).

My sister lost 5 inches (if I remember correctly) but that was from Osteoporosis, not hrt.

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on April 15, 2013, 12:29:39 PM
Got scientific evidence?

No, there isn't,  as I wrote in an earlier post. Do you have scientific evidence then?

Perhaps these quotes make things clear:

Quote from: Tesla on April 15, 2013, 12:22:37 PM
The apparent phenomenon has never been documented and is, with no intended offense, at this moment completely anecdotal. If you ask a doctor about it they will raise eyebrows.

Quote from: Sarah Louise on April 15, 2013, 01:41:23 PM
I've been on and off hormones half my life, I've shrunk 1/2 inch over 68 years.  Doctor's measurement.  But, even Doctor's offices can measure you wrong, a little slouch, slight lean, etc. and you are shorter or taller.

I have never seen proof that a person shrinks due to HRT.  I have seen people grow taller when they come from an area where they eat poorly and then start a good diet and grow (my ex brother-in-law).

My sister lost 5 inches (if I remember correctly) but that was from Osteoporosis, not hrt.

Quote from: kkut on April 15, 2013, 02:01:38 PM
Because you can't find scientific evidence thru a google search, etc., means it doesn't exist? You say it's never been documented. You can't know that.

The Free University hospital in Amsterdam, where I live,  did extensive research on MTF and of course the fysical effects of HRT and SRS.

No mentioning  of shrinking MTF in more than 20 years of research. Not one single case. About HRT causing osteoporosis quite a few.

QuoteI found at least four reasons for height decrease on a medical website. Can HRT trigger some of the causes? I dunnoh.

So pls post this.

QuoteI doubt specifically MTF HRT affects on height is a medical study to be performed anytime soon.

No reason to. The Free University Hospital would have done so if they noticed height changes in the almost 2500 MTF they've treated the past 30 years.

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Quotethink it's probably safe to say our height is fairly fixed.

Yes, it is.

I am 5'6 with tenishoes on. When I transition, I'll be going from a shortish man to an average height woman. Its one of the few things about my apearance that doesn't give my any disphoria.

Quote from: kkut on April 15, 2013, 04:10:47 PM
One of the four causes of getting shorter on this medical site was osteoporosis (#1), you just state that your own reliable source has documented many cases of HRT causing osteoporosis. Thus, HRT can cause people to get shorter.

Yes, but THAT'S an affliction caused by HRT, as I wrote.

For your convenience:

Quote from: Dahlia on April 15, 2013, 11:51:33 AM

Once your over, say, 24 your height is fixed....unless you (I'm talking about MTF on HRT here) develop  osteoporosis later in your life. This kind of shrinking is no fun because it causes severe problems and can be very painful. (So not the happy 'look!!! I've shrunken a few inches on HRT and now I'm much shorter! I'm so happy about that!')

What has been proven though is that puberty blockers tend to make (very young) MTF grow unusually tall and HRT/estrogens after their puberty blockers treatment don't make those unusually tall MTF 'shrink' at all.

Quote from: kkut on April 15, 2013, 04:10:47 PM


One of main reasons not listed on the four causes (it didn't claim to be a complete list) is GRAVITY.

Sure....gravity causes people to shrink, true.

But they'll shrink over decades and are a couple of inches shorter when they're of (very) old age.

Good it didn't claim to be a complete list.... that keeps some 'options open'...or should they have mentioned MTF on HRT? 

you dont get short fom HRT IMO...

we would have had thousands of ladies eating premarin  and 17b pills like
breathmints...

hence... we havent seen every girl raving about height AFTER ffs, i say
no hrt does not make you a shorty

I´m ok with my height (181-2cm), but i´m not okay with my leg-torso ratio. My torso is too long and my legs look like they belong on a girl that´s a little over average height, like 5´6-7 or something.
Some of you girls pretend like a big height equals long legs, that´s obviously not the case. The truth is that males are more pronounced in the torso area (longer torso, wider back etc) and females are more pronounced in the leg area (longer legs, more pronounced hips etc). That fact is actually making me doubt my transition process since some time.

Hi friends 

It's time to take a break and find something else to do for awhile before anyone get's too feisty and get's themselves in trouble

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