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A question on different Spiro types

Started by Sammy, June 10, 2013, 08:29:25 AM

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Sammy

I wanted to share my experience of taking two different Spironolactone (generic) types.
I started with Verospirone, which comes in capsules, and while it certainly had its effect on me - some typical described effects, including clearing up my skin, I did not experience any of the drawbacks. In particular, it does not work as a diuretic for me :P.
Now, I just wanted to increase my stocks so that I basically have like 6 months supply of hormones and antiandrogens, I asked for Verospirone in another pharmacy, but instead I was offered Spirix, which is Spironolactone in pills. It has that distinct mint smell and taste, which I read about here on the forum. Obviously, I cant comment about Verospirone taste, because I never tasted one - it just went straight down into my tummy :). However, I feel some minor diuretic effects after switching to Spirix, plus I sometimes get dizzy when I suddenly stand up. Today I had the therapy session and after we finished, I got that dizzy feeling again - blaming low-blood pressure, which is one of reported effects of Spiro, I asked if my blood pressure could be tested. But... it was 134/71, although my usual "normal" pressure is 125/80. So my upper pressure was actually higher than usual...
Has anyone else tried different forms of Spiro and can provide any feedback whatsoever? I still have quite a stock of Verospirone (like for 3-4 months), but I feel that Spirix is stronger and... but is stronger also better? I could also balance this out by switching them on daily basis.
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Jamiep

Hi Sammy, I think you saw my post that I have been taken off Spironolactone for now. I didn't have any diuretic effect but may have been because my gender Doctor said I should be drinking more water. I had slight virtigo the first time I took a pill but it was only sporadic for about 20 t0 30 minutes and never had the experience again. I felt a drop in energy & on my next visit after mentioning this to the Dr., he said it is probably due to the drop in blood pressure and drink more water. I don't like water, so I bought a variety of about 4 juices and that made a difference and bring your bp back up. My May 30 appointment bp reading was back up in a normal range. More liquids of course you pee more often. Perhaps if you drink more liquids it will do the same for you with a more normal range bp & less likely to experience dizzy spells. Something to consider, not sure if it makes a difference for you. I haven't been on any other derivative of Spiro to compare so can't help you there.

Jamie

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Sammy

Hiya! 

Actually I missed that post, Jamie, but I checked it out right now. Seems, Your effects were different and more worrying - my "vertigos" usually last about 3 secs maximum and thankfully they only tend to happen if I am suddenly standing up. So at least I am not getting dizzy while I am riding a bike... great :P.
Do You have any updates on Your eventual HRT status yet?
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Theo

Hi Sammy,

IIRC you are also hovering around in Europe. So unless your weather conditions have been a lot more stable than most peoples these past few weeks, I would consider that this may also have something to do with it. While I've always had my blood pressure a bit on the low side (105/65 or so), the current weather has had me doing the "standing up and sitting right back down"-routine quite a bit more often than usual, and a few colleagues in the office as well. So while I would most certainly echo Jamie's advice on getting enough liquid into your body, there may be that external factor as well that can at the very least increase the effect.
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Jamiep

Theo, you bring up a valid point about weather & atmospheric conditions. Thanks on the point of fluids. When you get the bp up it takes less work on your heart pumping the blood through your system.

@Sammy, Good that vertigo last only 3 seconds, perhaps take more time rising from a sitting position will alleviate the dizzy spell. I was told after an operation to gradually prop yourself up into a sitting position on your bed take a few seconds before lowering yourself to the floor rather than rolling out of bed, that can make you dizzy.

Very kind of you to ask about any feed back. I had an ultrasound on the abdomen last week and have an appointment with my gender Dr. on May 20 so I should have an idea of the situation with the Kidneys. I also have an Appointment with my Endo on Aug. 12. After that he may have an assessment as to working with some other derivatives & if I can carry on or not. I'm still hopefu.

Take care
Hugs
Jamie
We are made of star stuff - Carl Sagan
Express Yourself
Own your zone
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Sammy

#5
Jamie, I am sure they wont find anything which should not be there and will figure out the best course of medications for You. Be safe!

Theo, true, this could be the case - weather is the usual windy/stormy type with hot bright sunlight here in Baltics. Usually, I am not very much affected by atmosphere pressure, per se, but I do get affected by moon phases, and maybe things are changing a bit because of HRT... I dunno. I will deffinitely be more careful with standing up, because blackening out for a couple of secs and grabbing the wall is not a good thing to do - might happen while I am no stairs too...

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Jamie D

Sammy, some time ago I was prescribed Aldactone (a brand name of spironolactone in the United States), as a diuretic.  I used it in conjunction with a couple of other heart medications.  As I recall, my dosage of Aldactone was lower that the typical MtF HRT dosage.

I remember it as being a little orange pill with no particular taste.

When I am on new medications, or have had my dosages or dosing schedule changed, it is not uncommon for me to become light-headed, especially standing up.  I believe it is sometimes called "postural hypotension."
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