Quote from: kyh on June 18, 2013, 12:59:51 AM
You have so many misconceptions about transsexuals I don't even know where to begin... I'm sorry if that sounds mean but really, you need to forget *everything* you've heard about transsexuals and learn about us, yourself, your community, from scratch.

I expected that would touch some nerves (especially the nature vs nurture part in my specific case) but it's honestly based off of my reading and my conversations with a few transsexuals and one gender queer person.
At any rate, my point is that a person is going to transition if they need to regardless of how well they fit the description. This is because transitioning is about becoming more comfortable with yourself as opposed to being comfortable with fitting in with the usual signs/symptoms. But maybe I misread your intent and you could explain my misconceptions?

Quote from: Naomi on June 18, 2013, 05:21:33 PM
So by request I guess this qualifies as a weird trans narrative?

As a child I did play with dolls and I role played as female when I played imagination games with my friends. However I picked up the fact that boys were not supposed to play with dolls and stopped. Not once did I ever think to myself as a child that I was not a boy. Though I did often try on my mom clothes. Otherwise I was seen by everyone, including myself, as a "normal" boy. One weird point though was that in elementary school I had a girl friend. We only ever kissed because we didn't know anything past that XD. I have also never liked school but I can't really say if that's because I am trans.
Come puberty and I highly enjoyed discovering my genitals, though I started to wish that I was female and thoughts started to creep into my mind. Still though I went on doing "male" things. Possible signs at this age were always picking female characters in games, and my thoughts/dreams. Still though I only saw myself as male. I didn't believe that it was possible for me to be anything but that, since no one had ever told me to the contrary. So I ignored the thoughts and told nobody.
Come college the frequency of my thoughts increased until it exploded on me. Somehow I managed to suppress GID / GD for the majority of my current life, but the sudden and intense onset of it has been really difficult and probably could have been avoided if someone had just educated me on the subject. So I guess the moral is diversity and more info please. <3

I can appreciate every last word of that^^^. And yes, diversity and more information need to become the norm because sometimes it's painful to suppress those feelings for so long.

I cite us all awesome by trans

Quote from: kyh on June 18, 2013, 08:43:55 PM
You're welcome to read my reply to you again if you're not sure what I was getting at. Basically there were some blanket statements in your post that trans people are supposed to adhere to, and I told you that they were just assumptions and not necessarily true. You said, for example, that crossdressing is one of the key "symptoms" of being trans, which is simply not the case. At least, not according to professionals who work with trans people and on trans issues. Crossdressing is nothing more than a mode of expression or even a coping mechanism. It's not necessary or key to being transsexual. You also said, as another example, that most transsexuals are compelled to transition before the age of 20, which you'll find out isn't true if you spend some more time on this forum. Just because you're transitioning later than a 20 year old is, doesn't mean they're somehow more of a transsexual than you or anyone in your situation.
And honestly, about the nature vs nurture debate, I'm 100% indifferent. But the general consensus in the medical community is that it's more likely nature than nurture, so I simply wanted to point that out.

Oh ok. Thanks for clearing that up for me. 

Quote from: kyh on June 18, 2013, 08:43:55 PM
You're welcome to read my reply to you again if you're not sure what I was getting at. Basically there were some blanket statements in your post that trans people are supposed to adhere to, and I told you that they were just assumptions and not necessarily true. You said, for example, that crossdressing is one of the key "symptoms" of being trans, which is simply not the case. At least, not according to professionals who work with trans people and on trans issues. Crossdressing is nothing more than a mode of expression or even a coping mechanism. It's not necessary or key to being transsexual. You also said, as another example, that most transsexuals are compelled to transition before the age of 20, which you'll find out isn't true if you spend some more time on this forum. Just because you're transitioning later than a 20 year old is, doesn't mean they're somehow more of a transsexual than you or anyone in your situation.

And honestly, about the nature vs nurture debate, I'm 100% indifferent. But the general consensus in the medical community is that it's more likely nature than nurture, so I simply wanted to point that out.

Exactly what I was trying to say..