Quote from: aleon515 on July 24, 2013, 05:48:31 PM
Well that's true. But some of us don't. I honestly can't think of anything wrong with this. I see though having some kind of fantasy expectation that you have no interest meeting.

I know a ciswoman who likes trans guys. I know some people who date her. I have listened to what she says, and I don't really see anything wrong with her. But in the abstract...

--Jay

If you want to date her, cool...but it's not something I'd be okay with (for me...really don't have an investment in you dating her lol). I just don't feel comfortable supporting somebody who says I'm gender variant.

->-bleeped-<-s, from what I've come to understand about them, have a rather narrow-minded view. The refusal to see trans guys as male, or trans women as female. They are (like others have stated) set on their own ideals of what trans* is and isn't, and those ideals aren't necessarily correct or even inoffensive.

Sure, they're attracted, and if people want to sleep with them it's none of my business. To each their own, you know? But I don't think it's the same as being attracted to trans* people while being open-minded and accepting of personal gender preferences.

I don't decribe you as a ->-bleeped-<- specially not because your having the emotional part into consideration and just being openminded in general.

But I don't see the big ->-bleeped-<- taboo.
first as simon says not everyone who got interesting in transgenders are bad people, so I feel the stigma need to stop. theres many people who like transgenders like many transgender likes cisgenders, that should be okay.

for me it isn't really just black or white?

I prefern pre up transguys over cisguys, I think black women are hot more often than I think white women are, and I think people wearing Hijab are beutiful.
its not like I nessesarry jump everyone in those categories but having it as a + or part of my attraction dose that make me a ->-bleeped-<-?
is a gay man who only is attracted to guys less than 30 a chaiser? a man who log in farm-wife.com for that seach a chaiser? is a hetrosexual man who only likes skinny girls a chaiser?
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maybe..? I am unsure the diffrence of sexual preference and chaiser, I belive it lays in the word or the meaning,
For me a chaiser isnt nessesarry bad but it depend on the concent/agrement between the people.

deep down its how the person threat you and how you want to be threated back who matter.

I think the reason people get labelled a "->-bleeped-<-" is that they like a certain trait, and not the actual person that has the trait. Like a trans-->-bleeped-<- would like someone just because they're trans, not because they see them as a person. Well, that's why I understood it to be, I might be wrong.

Quote from: Nygeel on July 24, 2013, 05:59:34 PM
If you want to date her, cool...but it's not something I'd be okay with (for me...really don't have an investment in you dating her lol). I just don't feel comfortable supporting somebody who says I'm gender variant.

It wasn't anybody at all. It was a completely theoretical question on my part. I am not calling YOU gender variant. The person I described IS a real person, but not someone I would date (age more than anything). I think she prefers trans guys but I think that she is NOT a ->-bleeped-<-. 

If someone came on here (which has happened), saying they are interested in dating transguys, I usually don't like it. I think they are objectifying or something. But a real person who dates real people I know,  I hesitate to use a word I see a denigrating.



--Jay

I don't think it's inappropriate to be attracted to someone. You can't really help your preferences, even if they might change periodically throughout your life span.

I've had a few guys try to hit on me because I'm trans. It's very clear when someone is only into me for what he thinks I am vs being into me because he likes who I am.

Quote from: randomroads on July 25, 2013, 04:43:12 PM
I don't think it's inappropriate to be attracted to someone. You can't really help your preferences, even if they might change periodically throughout your life span.

I've had a few guys try to hit on me because I'm trans. It's very clear when someone is only into me for what he thinks I am vs being into me because he likes who I am.

Well yeah, if they JUST like you because you're trans, that's bad. But if part of their attraction is to trans, I think that's something else.

--Jay

Quote from: aleon515 on July 25, 2013, 11:48:31 PM
Well yeah, if they JUST like you because you're trans, that's bad. But if part of their attraction is to trans, I think that's something else.

--Jay

I think it goes for everything basically.