So...I am 26 and this weekend I tried to enter a restricted area that you had to be 18 or over to get into. The guy gave me a really hard time and said there was no way I was over 18. I obviously could prove I was with my license, but he looked it over and over to make sure it wasn't fake. It kind of bummed me out. Also was kind of annoying as the girl I am dating/with is 31. Yeah...a 31 year old woman does not want to be with a guy who looks under 18. I am assuming that means I passed as male because I looked so young??? I know this isn't a full body pic, but was wondering how old I look? I am short, but not super short that I think I would look like a child....I am about 5'5".

Quote from: JesseO on July 30, 2013, 12:20:21 PM
So...I am 26 and this weekend I tried to enter a restricted area that you had to be 18 or over to get into. The guy gave me a really hard time and said there was no way I was over 18. I obviously could prove I was with my license, but he looked it over and over to make sure it wasn't fake. It kind of bummed me out. Also was kind of annoying as the girl I am dating/with is 31. Yeah...a 31 year old woman does not want to be with a guy who looks under 18. I am assuming that means I passed as male because I looked so young??? I know this isn't a full body pic, but was wondering how old I look? I am short, but not super short that I think I would look like a child....I am about 5'5".

HAH!  I thought you were M2F.....

Piss yeah you pass as a male! 

 Sounds like this guy was just being a jerk. I'd put your age at about 25 based on those pics. And I've certainly never seen a teenager with gauged ears.

Quote from: MaybeBen on July 30, 2013, 01:49:19 PM
And I've certainly never seen a teenager with gauged ears.

Really??!!??

Quote from: JesseO on July 30, 2013, 12:20:21 PM
So...I am 26 and this weekend I tried to enter a restricted area that you had to be 18 or over to get into. The guy gave me a really hard time and said there was no way I was over 18. I obviously could prove I was with my license, but he looked it over and over to make sure it wasn't fake. It kind of bummed me out. Also was kind of annoying as the girl I am dating/with is 31. Yeah...a 31 year old woman does not want to be with a guy who looks under 18. I am assuming that means I passed as male because I looked so young??? I know this isn't a full body pic, but was wondering how old I look? I am short, but not super short that I think I would look like a child....I am about 5'5".

I would put you at about twenty, and definitely read you as male.

Quote from: MaybeBen on July 30, 2013, 06:31:37 AM
Yeah, agreed. It's not necessarily because it's longer, but just the style of the cut.

thanks for the feedback! I moved a year ago and still haven't found a barber I trust, so that might be it.

Quote from: JesseO on July 30, 2013, 12:20:21 PM
So...I am 26 and this weekend I tried to enter a restricted area that you had to be 18 or over to get into. The guy gave me a really hard time and said there was no way I was over 18. I obviously could prove I was with my license, but he looked it over and over to make sure it wasn't fake. It kind of bummed me out. Also was kind of annoying as the girl I am dating/with is 31. Yeah...a 31 year old woman does not want to be with a guy who looks under 18. I am assuming that means I passed as male because I looked so young??? I know this isn't a full body pic, but was wondering how old I look? I am short, but not super short that I think I would look like a child....I am about 5'5".

I wouldn't question that you're a guy, older than 18.

Quote from: Darrin Scott on July 30, 2013, 01:58:08 PM
Really??!!??

Yeah, but I'm 29,  so I don't know many teenagers.

Quote from: JesseO on July 30, 2013, 12:20:21 PM
So...I am 26 and this weekend I tried to enter a restricted area that you had to be 18 or over to get into. The guy gave me a really hard time and said there was no way I was over 18. I obviously could prove I was with my license, but he looked it over and over to make sure it wasn't fake. It kind of bummed me out. Also was kind of annoying as the girl I am dating/with is 31. Yeah...a 31 year old woman does not want to be with a guy who looks under 18. I am assuming that means I passed as male because I looked so young??? I know this isn't a full body pic, but was wondering how old I look? I am short, but not super short that I think I would look like a child....I am about 5'5".

you deff pass as male and over 18. i mean i know many teenagers as i am 19, but i dont see many under 18 year olds with that many tattoos.

Thanks for the responses. I'll just have to accept that the guy was just giving me a hard time. I wish I'd get some darn facial hair - I'm sure that would help.

Damn man! You dont have HRT?? In that case Im jealous (your jawline...!)
And I would have put you around 20 too. Deff not under 18. Ive never seen a teenager with gauges AND tats anyway! You dont look butch/dyke either, just male!

Quote from: LearnedHand on July 29, 2013, 07:14:11 PM
Shadow Cat You look very masculine in the top photo, in the bottom I can see how you wouldn't pass if I was someone out there looking closely, because I can see some curves and your smaller shoulders/arms could give you away, though just a casual glance I'd probably just think cis-male.

I've been working out my shoulders/arms for over a year now, so it's prolly going to take T to help any more with that.  Either that or I need to invest in tank tops, hmm.

I'm hoping that a proper binder will help with the curves too.  All I've got right now is a sports bra, which yeah, only does so much.

Quote from: shadowcat on August 01, 2013, 05:34:45 PM
I've been working out my shoulders/arms for over a year now, so it's prolly going to take T to help any more with that.  Either that or I need to invest in tank tops, hmm.

I'm hoping that a proper binder will help with the curves too.  All I've got right now is a sports bra, which yeah, only does so much.

Yeah T will likely help your arms and shoulders a lot. I was considering finding a way to somehow tailor my shirts to have smaller armholes and shoulders so they look like they fit better; if I ever figure out a way to do it without completely destroying all of my clothes, I'll let everyone know. 

Shaved all my facial hair off. I'm worried I'm looking like I did pre-T and I won't pass. I pass about 100% of the time now.

Now:

Pre T:

Darrin, sure, I can see the resemblance. And on first sight both pictures are of the same date.
But if I look carefully the lower picture signals a lot more 'female' while the upper is more 'male'. I cannot even see a girl in the upper pic, while I can in the lower when take a close look.
It's actually kinda funny, as I cannot pinpoint exactly what changed, but still see the above pic as quite a bit more male.

Quote from: JesseO on July 30, 2013, 12:20:21 PM

Jesus, you'd pass with flying colors!
I thought you were post-t!

Quote from: Darrin Scott on August 02, 2013, 08:44:50 PM
Shaved all my facial hair off. I'm worried I'm looking like I did pre-T and I won't pass. I pass about 100% of the time now.

Now:

Pre T:

You should have no worries at all! I see a man in the top picture

Quote from: GiantMarkirs on August 03, 2013, 11:08:47 PM
Jesus, you'd pass with flying colors!
I thought you were post-t!

Ah! I actually am on T....but I don't have any facial hair yet and think that makes me not pass not so well, especially considering my age. Sorry for the confusion

Quote from: JesseO on August 04, 2013, 06:49:17 PM
Ah! I actually am on T....but I don't have any facial hair yet and think that makes me not pass not so well, especially considering my age. Sorry for the confusion

Not at all! I'd still think you're a full on guy  How long have you been on it for?

Hello guys! I'm twenty years old and seven months on T.