me: dad, I'm having trouble with my gender.
dad: what's it doing?
me: i don't like it.
dad: oh, well, it's ok if you are a lesbian.
me: no dad, it's not my sexual orientation, it's my body.
dad: oh. what's wrong with it?
me: it's a girls body.
dad: you want to be a man?
me: yeah.
dad: ok. you know there's lots of lesbians like you.
me: dad, im not a lesbian.
dad: what do you want to do about it?
me: therapy would be nice.
dad: ok. *googles up some therapists* this one says she works with lesbians.
me: *facepalm*

this is the overacted version of my coming out to my dad. he still thinks im a lesbian. but you know, he's accepting of whatever i do so i'm not going to complain one bit, i just thought it was funny XD

Quote from: StellaB on July 30, 2013, 01:02:58 PM
A call to the customer service department of a telephone company.

Staff: Can I have your account number please?
Me: Certainly, it's XXXXX XXXX
Staff: And your name?
Me: I'm Stella XXXXXXXX, the account holder.
Staff: And am I speaking with the account holder?
Me: Yes I am the account holder, I am Ms. Stella XXXXXXXX
Staff: I need to speak with the account holder.
Me: I am the account holder. I am Ms. Stella XXXXXXXXX.
Staff: No, I need to speak with the account holder.
Me: I am the account holder, I am Ms. Stella XXXXXXXXX, I'm transgendered.
Staff: I understand. But Mr Transgender, I need to speak with the account holder.
Me: Excuse me, who is Mr Transgender?
Staff: You are Mr Transgender sir. Can I speak with the account holder Miss Stella XXXXXXXX
Me: You are speaking with the account holder Ms Stella Baker. I'm transgendered.
Staff: I understand Mr Transgender, but can I please speak with Miss Stella XXXXXXXX the account holder?
Me: It's okay. Please don't worry about it. I'll go online instead. Thank you.
Staff: Very well. Is there anything else I can do for you?
Me: Unfortunately not.
Staff: Have a nice day.

That's actually something I've thought about as being a potential issue with a transition. Convincing all my creditors that I am who I say I am when I need to change my name on the accounts.

It is likely a combination of outsourced worker and stupid.

Transgender is so utterly and totally not a surname and sorry if anyone actually thinks a non English speaking person might not realize it.

These just make me angrier.

Person A: "If God wanted you to be a girl, you would be a girl."
Me: "Really? 'Cause if I gave a ->-bleeped-<-, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be transgender anymore."

"God knew what he was doing when He made you a male."

"You're not here to live on your own accord, you're here to serve God's will."

(re: my gender) "It's not up to you."

"You are a man and always will be." / "You are not a woman and never will be."

Person A: "You were born in your right body. You're just confused, that's all."
Me: "Uh, no. I'm not the one who's confused about my gender identity. You are!"

"You shouldn't be mad at God because God knows far better than you."

Quote from: AnnaiyahStarr on July 31, 2013, 08:00:59 AM
These just make me angrier.

Person A: "If God wanted you to be a girl, you would be a girl."
Me: "Really? 'Cause if I gave a ->-bleeped-<-, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be transgender anymore."

"God knew what he was doing when He made you a male."

"You're not here to live on your own accord, you're here to serve God's will."

(re: my gender) "It's not up to you."

"You are a man and always will be." / "You are not a woman and never will be."

Person A: "You were born in your right body. You're just confused, that's all."
Me: "Uh, no. I'm not the one who's confused about my gender identity. You are!"

"You shouldn't be mad at God because God knows far better than you."

The God doesn't make mistakes stuff is what almost drove me to suicide. I hate it when they say that. But I do recall something from my religious upbringing that counters that and that's that people that are born different are born that way to show the glory of God. So, if there is a God, maybe they made us this way specifically so we would transition and get people to lighten up, showing the glory of God

Quote from: Emily Aster on July 31, 2013, 07:10:33 AM
That's actually something I've thought about as being a potential issue with a transition. Convincing all my creditors that I am who I say I am when I need to change my name on the accounts.

If you chanfe your name via the courts, they give you an "Official" copy of the order...you make about some copies, write up a basic letter:

Quote"Hi, I recently changed my name from Fred ____ to Wilma ____, and need to change my name on this acct to match.

Credit/Bank name:
Acct #:

My address is the same/has changed also, it is:

Enclosed is a copy of the court order.
Thank you.

Sincerely,

Wilma ____"

Why the f*** does everything come down to god?

If god did make us, then why not make everyone perfect? I do not believe that god made us "female inside and male on the outside"

This is a better reason why we are born in the wrong body "One theory is that changes in the brain prior to birth cause parts of the brain to develop in a pattern opposite to that of the physical gender. It has been found, for example, that significant proportions of male transsexuals have abnormally low levels of HY antigen. (HY antigen mediates the masculinizing effect of the Y chromosome in men."

QuoteWhy the f*** does everything come down to god?

If god did make us, then why not make everyone perfect?

For some people (not being judgemental here) G-d is a very important facet in their lives. Yes, there are those who use the idea as a crutch for their hate, and they beat us over the head with their crutch...

The searching for the Divine is not evil, it is the misinterpretation of G-d's nature which is evil.

Hi friends 

This is not the 'rant about god' thread    Please try to stay on topic

Thank you

V M

Quote from: StellaB on July 30, 2013, 07:22:06 PM
A call to the customer service department of a telephone company.

Staff: Can I have your account number please?
Me: Certainly, it's XXXXX XXXX
Staff: And your name?
Me: I'm Stella XXXXXXXX, the account holder.
Staff: And am I speaking with the account holder?
Me: Yes I am the account holder, I am Ms. Stella XXXXXXXX
Staff: I need to speak with the account holder.
Me: I am the account holder. I am Ms. Stella XXXXXXXXX.
Staff: No, I need to speak with the account holder.
Me: I am the account holder, I am Ms. Stella XXXXXXXXX, I'm transgendered.
Staff: I understand. But Mr Transgender, I need to speak with the account holder.
Me: Excuse me, who is Mr Transgender?
Staff: You are Mr Transgender sir. Can I speak with the account holder Miss Stella XXXXXXXX
Me: You are speaking with the account holder Ms Stella Baker. I'm transgendered.
Staff: I understand Mr Transgender, but can I please speak with Miss Stella XXXXXXXX the account holder?
Me: It's okay. Please don't worry about it. I'll go online instead. Thank you.
Staff: Very well. Is there anything else I can do for you?
Me: Unfortunately not.
Staff: Have a nice day.
Amy

Who's on first?

Maddy

"I don't believe you're transgender, because I've been reading and nearly all of those people knew it since they were like 3, and you were so, not. "

Seriously mother... sigh...

Quote from: Makalii on July 31, 2013, 08:02:06 PM
"I don't believe you're transgender, because I've been reading and nearly all of those people knew it since they were like 3, and you were so, not. "

Seriously mother... sigh...

That is unfortunately heard often among the "->-bleeped-<-r than thou" crowd...so that counts as a double "ARGHHH!"

Quote from: Makalii on July 31, 2013, 08:02:06 PM
"I don't believe you're transgender, because I've been reading and nearly all of those people knew it since they were like 3, and you were so, not. "

Seriously mother... sigh...

I'm sure I'll get that from some family members myself. It's not that it wasn't there for me. It's that I was taught very early on about clear gender lines and that you don't cross them. Ever.

Quote from: Beth Andrea on July 31, 2013, 08:53:04 AM
If you chanfe your name via the courts, they give you an "Official" copy of the order...you make about some copies, write up a basic letter:

Thanks

OK, here's a doozy. I've just heard that another FtM has been refused funding for phalloplasty, because he's a gay man who prefers to 'bottom' so obviously he doesn't need a penis, right? 

Quote from: Beth Andrea on July 31, 2013, 08:06:45 PM
That is unfortunately heard often among the "->-bleeped-<-r than thou" crowd...so that counts as a double "ARGHHH!"

"->-bleeped-<-r than thou?"

Quote from: Makalii on August 02, 2013, 03:44:22 PM
"->-bleeped-<-r than thou?"

There are those among the ts people who say things like,

"You don't try to pass?! You're not a real transsexual, are you?"

"I had SRS before I was ____ years old; the only way to really be a woman is with *all* the correct parts."

Etc etc...basically "I have ____, and therefore *I* am more transsexual than you."

*sigh* 

Quote from: Beth Andrea on August 02, 2013, 05:06:53 PM
There are those among the ts people who say things like,

"You don't try to pass?! You're not a real transsexual, are you?"

"I had SRS before I was ____ years old; the only way to really be a woman is with *all* the correct parts."

Etc etc...basically "I have ____, and therefore *I* am more transsexual than you."

*sigh* 

Wow... Some people... *shakes her head in disapproval*

Quote from: Emily Aster on July 31, 2013, 07:10:33 AM
That's actually something I've thought about as being a potential issue with a transition. Convincing all my creditors that I am who I say I am when I need to change my name on the accounts.

I've had the talk of the phone issue recently and a name change issue three times recently. First my car broke down and I called the rescue service, I was alone, it was night and I was frightened. The girl on the phone asked for the name on the member card, I gave it my female name, Can I speak to her please. I am her. Oh I'm so sorry Miss, she had the service to me in 20 mins.

The second was yesterday when I was buying an IPad, I was having a network card put in and I had to verify details with the service on the phone, the salesman selling me the IPad was sitting next to me. The network people were having problems matching Cindy with my voice. The salesman asked for the phone and said 'She is a very nice attractive woman who has a deep voice, I can see her ID and I can confirm her name is Cindy XXX' and handed the phone back, I got effusive apologies.

The final was the bank, I was depositing a cheque made to my previous name, the clerk looked at the cheque and said, I'm sorry this is made out to a man whose name is not on your account. - the reverse problem!!!!!!

So don't give in!!!! We will win!

Quote from: Emily Aster on July 31, 2013, 08:29:28 AM
The God doesn't make mistakes

Good lawrd! I got the same line of crap 55 years ago! Some  things never change.

Quote..... people that are born different are born that way to show the glory of God. So, if there is a God, maybe they made us this way ......

I tried the same argument and the counter argument was simply that I was wrong and they were right. You can't argue with a closed mind!