Jennygirl,
      Take my advice as well as the advice of others here, you look just fabulous already and we know there are not that many cis women with perfect measurements. Let it go and don't allow yourself to be swept away with the obsessive compulsion for a lot of unnecessary slicing and dicing because in the long run it won't bring you any more happiness than you already have. Just be yourself and get past perfectionism otherwise it will always become just another hump to get over on the road ahead and your life will be like the movie "Groundhog Day!" You're already standing in a rose garden, sit back and smell the roses hon!

Quote from: iiii on August 03, 2013, 10:28:58 AM
I suppose the same thing could be said about hormones and SRS... Is this some sort of projection thing? It sounds very hypocritical and does not sound as advice well intended at all.

With all due respect, everyone was trying to be supportive in their own way.  No one will judge Jenny's decision.  There was no bad intentions involved.  Like surgery and hrt, it is up to her to decide if it is needed -not anyone else.  However, many of us want her to know that she passes well and that the surgery may not be necessary.   And like srs there risks involved that SHOULD be considered.  Again, only she can decide that if it is or isn't worth it depending on her level of dysphoria or what she is looking for. 

I wonder if instead of leaving your tummy alone and trying to boost your hips artificially, it wouldn't be more effective to eat more (in some sensible weight-gain sort of diet), gain the hips you will have on HRT, prolly gain a cup size upstairs as well, and THEN do a sculpting liposuction to remove any additional love handle/tummy that you are worried about gaining. Might work if you are looking at some form of surgery anyway, and removing fat artificially seems like it would always look more natural than adding it artificially.... 

Quote from: iiii on August 03, 2013, 10:28:58 AM
I suppose the same thing could be said about hormones and SRS... Is this some sort of projection thing? It sounds very hypocritical and does not sound as advice well intended at all.

Well actually before I cut it out my last post. I did have have my thoughts on hrt and the ethics of it all (which is too late now) But I thought I was going too far off the original topic. And this will be the last I say on this subject. If you want to turn yourself into a Barbie doll go ahead do it!  

Quote from: iiii on August 03, 2013, 10:28:58 AM
I suppose the same thing could be said about hormones and SRS... Is this some sort of projection thing? It sounds very hypocritical and does not sound as advice well intended at all.

It comes from having been around for a long time in the TG world and observing how overly obsessed we can become with our bodies, bits and overall appearance to the extent that we are never happy. I'm trying to encourage others to learn to be content when they have become as obviously attractive and easily passable as Jenny is.

Quote from: Christine167 on August 03, 2013, 05:05:09 AM
How do you feel about the corset training and where did you shop for your corset? I. Thinking of getting an underbrush or waist cincher but I'm worried that the sizing might not reflect what a transgender person might need?

I bought this corset here, http://www.corset-story.com/my-087-classic-black-underbust-corset.html. Size 30 because my natural waist is like 34, with corset I can bring it down to 31 but fat is pushed around the top of the corset and my shoulders are just as bad. I think I might be able to lose chest mass as in muscle and that will make my shoulders appear less broad.

As for corset training I think you should go for the clincher. I haven't done intensive training because I'm lazy but I put it on once in a while. IT IS BULKY. Though I'm thinking of going for a smaller size I hear a clincher feels more natural and is better for your body shape.

Quote from: Shantel on August 03, 2013, 11:06:07 AM


I'm trying to encourage others to learn to be content when they have become

And Your doing a very good job Shantel Thank You! 

Hey girls!
One of the things that makes me feel most self conscious about myself is my waist in regards to my hips. I want some of the waist to go to my hips and im sure very many of us feel this way. I have done research and discovered that the best way to achieve this look is through fat transfer AKA Brazillian Butt Lift. As was already described in the posts above, fat is transferred (After purification) into your hips from your waist, flanks, behind your arms etc. This can give the patient the desired look (through sculpting) that they wish for.

I have yet to get the surgery, but I am going to book consultations with several doctors and see if they can give me what i am looking for. I am not a big person so I would assume they would want me to gain weight BUT at the same time maybe they can transfer whatever cells I have rather easily and work with that.

Doctors that often come up in my searches are Ghuarani (spelling?) , Campos, and Markmann. I think (from what I have read, heard from other people) that Markmann is the one to go to. He is also by far the most expensive one, approaching 20k. I have read on reputable doctors in latin America charging well under 10k, if not under 5.

If you want to know all you can on lipo transfers, go to www.realself.com and look it up. One of the highest rating for patient satisfaction.

The ONLY thing I cannot find is long term testimonials. I have heard of girls being satisfied 3 years later but as for people who have had the transfer for 10 years +, no answer.

And for all the ladies saying "be natural" or "go work out" well yes, that works too, but no way are you going to get that Kim K rear.
Google search Jennifer Paris, Carmen Carrera, missjlove and you will see some (Trans!) girls with big bootay!

Quote from: BurningBrilliance on August 03, 2013, 11:17:05 AM
I bought this corset here, http://www.corset-story.com/my-087-classic-black-underbust-corset.html. Size 30 because my natural waist is like 34, with corset I can bring it down to 31 but fat is pushed around the top of the corset and my shoulders are just as bad. I think I might be able to lose chest mass as in muscle and that will make my shoulders appear less broad.

As for corset training I think you should go for the clincher. I haven't done intensive training because I'm lazy but I put it on once in a while. IT IS BULKY. Though I'm thinking of going for a smaller size I hear a clincher feels more natural and is better for your body shape.

Well the link gives a 401 but at least there is a site that I know I can buy something in my size from. I'm a 34" waist as well so the 30" corset sounds good to me. I don't wan't the blocky goblet shape but I certainly wouldn't mind taking it in an inch so so.

Missy do you know of anyone who did the natural thing and worked out who started rail thin and worked into having more butt? I have a hard time believing that working that hard on my bottom and things would do anything but give me that extra toned and defined muscled look which I don't think would be good on me.

Quote from: missy1992 on August 03, 2013, 12:19:40 PM

And for all the ladies saying "be natural" or "go work out" well yes, that works too, but no way are you going to get that Kim K rear.
Google search Jennifer Paris, Carmen Carrera, missjlove and you will see some (Trans!) girls with big bootay!

Kim K's bootay is repulsive and out of proportion with the rest of her height to width ratio and hardly reflects anything normal to the cis female world. I haven't seen the others, but what woman wants to be known for outlandishly sized boobs or butt? Wouldn't it be better to fit into the cis norm rather than draw unnecessary attention for having oversized body parts? Isn't the idea to be passable rather than "Look at my big ass"?

I completely respect those that are saying "not necessary". I take it as a compliment and thank you that is very sweet of you to say

I don't want a Kim K rear. I don't even think hers is shaped that well... A lot of times it looks kind of big and flat. My goal is to have a frontal hip profile that is proportional to my shoulders. A thin waist is a bonus. I want to forget about certain things that have bothered me as far back as I can remember... like wanting a totally feminine hip shape and derriere. It's seriously been a bother for me since I was 12.

I appreciate the controversy, it tells me that people are looking out for each other here. That is really important!

That said, this is a very safe procedure. There is basically no chance of the body rejecting the injected fat because it is your own tissue. Not only that, but I don't have much fat to work with so my results will be somewhat minimal and that is okay with me.... like I said I am not looking for a Kim K rear, just a little correctional width! I feel that for the most part it will be unnoticeable to others, but very noticeable to me on the inside. I think I will feel more genuinely feminine, because I hold waist and hip curvature at the top of my list of feminine body traits- I always have and always will.

Being able to embody the traits that I see as wholly feminine is an opportunity I am not going to pass up. Especially if it is a very safe procedure performed by a top 3 surgeon in that field, not to mention a procedure with results that look and feel completely natural. No worries at all.

I really appreciate all the responses. And yeah, missy1992, you pretty much nailed it on the head as far as how I feel, too!

Quote from: Jennygirl on August 03, 2013, 12:59:42 PM
I completely respect those that are saying "not necessary". I take it as a compliment and thank you that is very sweet of you to say

This is clearly the intent, you look pretty darned fine as is and everyone wants to complement you for that!

Quote from: Jennygirl on August 03, 2013, 12:59:42 PM
I don't want a Kim K rear. I don't even think hers is shaped that well... A lot of times it looks kind of big and flat. My goal is to have a frontal hip profile that is proportional to my shoulders. A thin waist is a bonus. I want to forget about certain things that have bothered me as far back as I can remember... like wanting a totally feminine hip shape and derriere. It's seriously been a bother for me since I was 12.

think I will feel more genuinely feminine, because I hold waist and hip curvature at the top of my list of feminine body traits- I always have and always will.

Then that would certainly qualify your need to get it done, go for it Jenny! We all like to kick around the pros and cons of various issues, after all isn't this a support site rather than a place where we criticize one another for having a diversity of thoughts and ideas about various issues?

I feel like I should also mention: I haven't had ANY cosmetic surgeries (I consider trach shave and laser to be merely correctional).

I am not chasing perfection. Nothing is perfect. Facially, I have learned to embrace the masculine traits I have from certain angles. For me, the hips are different. It's literally been a main concern my entire life and the source of years worth of anxiety, confusion, and depression that I am going to gladly overwrite with positive victory notes once and for all.

Sure there is a whole range of figures for cis females. But that's exactly like saying sure there is a wide range of facial traits.

How is this any different from a lot of FFS operations (other than being less risky)?

Quote from: Shantel on August 03, 2013, 01:21:19 PM
This is clearly the intent, you look pretty darned fine as is and everyone wants to complement you for that!

Then that would certainly qualify your need to get it done, go for it Jenny! We all like to kick around the pros and cons of various issues, after all isn't this a support site rather than a place where we criticize one another for having a diversity of thoughts and ideas about various issues?

Yeah I don't consider the "opposing" reactions here a bad thing at all. I put opposing in quotes because really it just feels more supportive than anything and it's easy to see that's how the comments were intended

Also, I decided to bring this up because I knew it would be somewhat of a controversial topic based on the response I received months ago when hip augmentation was brought up in someone else's thread.

I know hips are something that a lot of trans women struggle with so I want to try to help by documenting my process through this part of the journey. And I totally encourage any other women to share their experiences here as well.

Quote from: Christine167 on August 03, 2013, 12:34:59 PM
Missy do you know of anyone who did the natural thing and worked out who started rail thin and worked into having more butt?

Yes. I don't know ANYONE who has NOT achieved a significant improvement with diet and exercise alone. You are only limited by your genetics, and thankfully you can push your genes to work to their full potential.
Now, if you want things to work out well, you want to get everything on your side. Clean diet, cardio, squats, lunges, dead lifts etc. There are three muscles you must work out in your derriere, gluteus maximus, minimus , and I believe the middle one is called medius. Also start soon, obviously someone doing this in their teens is going to end up "better off" or at least have a better time than someone who is older (because testosterone will make your rib cage, clavicle, shoulders etc bulk (grow?))

There is a girl here from Brazil. Iirc she posted in the before and after thread (maybe the one that has been archived though). She has only worked out and she has a beautiful body! (Keep in mind she started young, but even in your late teens/early 20s you have still gone through the most possible masculinization).

Quote from: Jennygirl on August 03, 2013, 12:59:42 PM
I completely respect those that are saying "not necessary". I take it as a compliment and thank you that is very sweet of you to say

But what is "necessary?" God forbid I had a tumour in me, then I would need to have that removed. Or if I was in a car accident (god forbid!) and then I needed a blood transfusion.

I WANT a larger bum and hips. So what if I strive for that? I have already had FFS (and almost everyone unanimously said I didn't "need" to) and SRS. Breast Augmentation is on the horizon for the end of this year, beginning of 2014. I am going to do my homework on the Brazilian Butt lift thing, and im going to do it if I feel its "Right" for me.

One thing though ladies, the recovery for this procedure is rather stringent. You absolutely CANNOT I repeat CANNOT sit on your bum for 4-6 weeks. This may damage the graft... and it will not hold. Or one side will recover better than the other. If you cannot dedicate that time to recovery do not bother ... it would be a waste of money.

fwiw off the top of my head I know two girls on this forum that had a fat graft. Search Vanna's profile here and also Tesla.

Quote from: Jennygirl on August 02, 2013, 03:45:49 PM
SNIP

As far as my worries... I am worried about not having enough fat to make a correctional difference. I've gained about 17 pounds since my lowest weight in March or April, but I still wonder if I am too thin. Either way, I know that having my tummy and waist lipo'd would make a big difference.

Has anyone tried fat transfer to their hips and care to share their experience? There isn't that much info specifically about MtF's undergoing this operation. I thought I remembered reading Tessa having fat transfer to hips but I can't remember for sure?

Any input is appreciated!

Eat as many of these as you can ...

Quote from: Jamie, Bana-phrionnsa Gaidhealtachd on August 03, 2013, 10:36:27 PM
Eat as many of these as you can ...

Sure, if you want to become trans fat.  There is a case for attempting to put on weight by eating fish high in Omega-3 and low in mercury. My choice is mackerel and then salmon.

I had my back and sides lipo'd and grafted to my outer thighs. It made a very subtle difference. I was going for a second follow-up procedure when I had to divert funds for other surgeries including SRS. My second procedure was going to take from my inner thighs and around my belly button and transfer to the outer thighs. I may go again next year.

First procedure, my surgeon reckoned I had about 700ml that could be lipo'd. My back was where I had an accumulation of fat, not my belly. It turns out that after purifying the 700ml, 300ml was left to graft. 150ml into each thigh. The post surgery photos I've seen of those with more dramatic outcomes appear to have had literally rolls of fat to transfer. Anyway, I do love the lack of love handles, which is far more noticeable than the actual graft itself.

There's also some nice panties out there with hip and butt enhancements.

Quote from: Nicolette on August 04, 2013, 04:14:08 AM

Anyway, I do love the lack of love handles, which is far more noticeable than the actual graft itself.

I've worked my ass off at the gym for several years and conclude that love handles are permanent, there is nothing outside of lipo that will take them away. I'm with you on this Nicolette, this is something I plan to get done which along with what I have already achieved which will maximize my waist definition to hip ratio and they can keep the fat, I produce plenty without any help.

Nicolette- that is great to know that you've had almost this exact thing done! Thank you so much for sharing! I guess the thing I am most concerned about is having realistic expectations, and it sounds from your experience like that will be very important.

I have a small bunch of questions for you

• which doctor did you go to and when?
• what were your pre-op stats? i.e. height, weight, measurements
• what were your post-op stats?

Sorry, I know it's kind of a lot of info at once. I'm really curious, though Feel free to PM me instead- I don't want to put you on blast.

Thanks again for posting about it!