I totally respect that viewpoint and I think I am agreeing with it.
the benefit of the NHS is that we don't have to pay money out of our own pocket.
But one big drawback is that we may feel that we have little control.
I am just now feeling like I have far more control over my life. now I consider that i could go to a private clinic and sort out my own stuff... I feel very powerful.
I still think that NHS would be very helpful with things like laser hair removal, but I am thinking that for other stuff like hormones, I feel I would be better off finding my own path and making my own decisions, with the help of a private clinic perhaps.
I didn't realise that the NHS would stick to the pills and not have any options.
of course going private will result in me footing the bill... I'm not very rich. but this is my future we're talking about.
just need to find some information about clinics near me.

Quote from: Yuki-jker86 on August 11, 2013, 09:46:09 AM
I totally respect that viewpoint and I think I am agreeing with it.
the benefit of the NHS is that we don't have to pay money out of our own pocket.
But one big drawback is that we may feel that we have little control.
I am just now feeling like I have far more control over my life. now I consider that i could go to a private clinic and sort out my own stuff... I feel very powerful.
I still think that NHS would be very helpful with things like laser hair removal, but I am thinking that for other stuff like hormones, I feel I would be better off finding my own path and making my own decisions, with the help of a private clinic perhaps.
I didn't realise that the NHS would stick to the pills and not have any options.
of course going private will result in me footing the bill... I'm not very rich. but this is my future we're talking about.
just need to find some information about clinics near me.

Yeah free health care is a plus, but given the state of the NHS at the moment, they are constantly cutting corners. Not only that, but they are being tighter about treatment in order to save money.

You're right about lazer treatment, I'd gladly accept that from them, and even hormones, but never ever surgery, oho no.

Sorry Yuki, i didn't mean to come across so strongly, it's just that i am so very fed up with the healthcare system... as you may of already guessed

Here is a link to a message i wrote to someone else who was wanting to know more about alternative options. https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,145322.msg1189231.html#msg1189231

There aren't many to be honest, but at least it gives you more control, i.e: choice of hormone delivery, timetable, seeing a gender therapist etc.

Please don't hesitate to message me for a chat x

I didn't feel you came across strongly
you have learned some things that are very helpful to share!

Okay, I know I'm a little late on this, but nevertheless:
I'm sorry for what you have to go through, Yuki. It is not okay, that you have to endure so much pain to find yourself. That said, your therapist has a responsibility for what is done to you. It might be that he sensed your doubts. Is there any news about it? Did he reply to your mail?

Quote from: Dreams2014 on August 08, 2013, 03:19:47 PM
Why should we be made to feel like we have mental issues if we want to go through procedures to change our gender? It's nonsense.

We don't go there to ensure we have a mental illness. It's to ensure we don't. GID is a physical illness, but there are mental illnesses which have similar symptoms. Although it's hard I'm very happy to see a therapist soon. She will help sorting my thoughts, I hope.

Thanks PiaBianca, yes got a response from him saying that he will reconsider.
I am not sure how much his opinion matters though.
I've been doing a lot of reasearch and I found out that I can get private orchiectomy for about £1500.
aside from that there are various options for herbal treatments and there are private clinics that do endocrinology etc.
There are plenty of potential possibilities and I have always been very good at getting what I want.

I do sense though, that my attitude has changed to an incredible degree since that meeting and I have no doubt he will notice the huge change.

Quote from: Yuki-jker86 on August 11, 2013, 07:41:52 PM
I do sense though, that my attitude has changed to an incredible degree since that meeting and I have no doubt he will notice the huge change.

I'll keep my fingers crossed!

Quote from: Yuki-jker86 on August 11, 2013, 07:50:55 AM
Bardoux, everything you are saying sounds good. so what can a person do?
Does that mean you would recommend finding a private clinic and keeping away from the NHS?

The problem with that is that there aren't any private clinics that are any good in the UK.
Which is why so many go to Thailand for hormones and surgery. The surgery there is good, the rest of it is merely less wretched.

Quote from: HenryHall on August 12, 2013, 07:34:01 AM
The problem with that is that there aren't any private clinics that are any good in the UK.
Which is why so many go to Thailand for hormones and surgery. The surgery there is good, the rest of it is merely less wretched.

You kidding? How can the UK not have any good private clinics?

Quote from: Joules on August 10, 2013, 09:40:12 AM
Dysphoria is not a requirement

I guess that depends exactly what you mean, exactly what is the context.

However dysphoria positively is a requirement to get NHS medical assistance with transition according to paragraph 2.2.3 of the NHS England Interim Protocol CPAG Approved July 2013.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysphoria

QuoteDysphoria (semantically opposite of euphoria) is a medically recognized mental and emotional condition in which a person experiences intense feelings of depression, discontent, and in some cases indifference to the world around them.[1]
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[1] Abbess, John F. "Glossary of terms in the field of psychiatry and neurology"

Quote from: Dreams2014 on August 12, 2013, 07:38:03 AM
You kidding? How can the UK not have any good private clinics?

Sorry, I should have been more clear.
There are good private medical clinics in the UK.
There are not any good private clinics for the treatment of transsexualism and similar conditions in the UK.

Quote from: HenryHall on August 12, 2013, 07:43:10 AM
Sorry, I should have been more clear.
There are good private medical clinics in the UK.
There are not any good private clinics for the treatment of transsexualism and similar conditions in the UK.

Nowhere? We're a first world country. In the G8 and all that jazz. Are you telling me there's nowhere? I was clinging on to that because I don't trust the NHS!

there is trans health and gender care in London.
I haven't done any personal research but they are said to be good by some people.

Ah, yes. London. How typical the only place to go would be there haha. Don't you love how London-centric the UK is?

Quote from: Yuki-jker86 on August 11, 2013, 07:41:52 PM
I've been doing a lot of reasearch and I found out that I can get private orchiectomy for about £1500.

I'm no expert but I did read a post where a girl couldn't get SRS because of the way her orchiectomy was done. So it might be worth checking up on this before making any decisions.

That's true Andrea. If you have had a circumcision or not greatly endowed a surgeon will have to use some skin from the scrotum for the vaginal wall lining. With the testicles removed there could be the issue of the scrotal skin shrinking back leaving less to work with.

it's worth trying to go through the nhs, but only if you're prepared to jump off the train at any station if you notice it's going somewhere you don't want to end up, or at a to high or low speed.

doctors often tend to be that type of people who need to be told what you want, very explicitly, with quite a lot of paragraphs backing you. it's important to know what you're after and be prepared to reject the wrong prescription. when your doctor told you that your problems aren't gid, you should have asked what it really was and demanded treatment for that then. of course, that's not easy to do when you're already insecure about everything, many sick people don't get better so fast as they could just because they're too sick to tell the doctor what they need.

Find a doctor who will say Yes. Don't give up.

thanks for the heads up about the orchiectomy. I don't know if that will be an issue, I have above average material to work with down there, but perhaps I can ask if there is potential for prosthetic or something to keep the scrotum a decent size.
I am just thinking, I'd rather find a T suppressing method that wont cause havoc on my system.

taka, lots of paragraphs? oh goodie! I have written loads of notes in my phone notepad.