Interestingly:

Many mass murderers and serial killers have an extraordinarily high IQ.
Mass murderers are often loners who have very few social connections.
Most mass murderers are single or divorced.
Most serial killers had troubled childhoods
There is a higher percentage of left handed serial killers than compared to the general public

So from that, I hypothesize, if you have these characteristics and are born in a male body, there are two paths, murder or transition!


<this and my previous post were not intended to be taken seriously>

Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on October 24, 2013, 01:36:55 PM
But the last one made my day! So, by transitioning we all here are making a big favour to the humanity! (or messing up Mother Nature's plan to depopulate the planet...).

There was one more shared correlation but I didn't want to trigger anyone

Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on October 24, 2013, 01:36:55 PM
But the last one made my day! So, by transitioning we all here are making a big favour to the humanity! (or messing up Mother Nature's plan to depopulate the planet...).

so... "be the cheerleader, save the world?"

Quote from: kabit on October 24, 2013, 01:44:26 PM
so... "be the cheerleader, save the world?"

Only if you're immortal

High Functioning ASD-GID people will appear to be the most intelligent people you will ever meet.

Why?

ASD person by definition will desire social isolation. Non-ASD people ("Neurotypicals" i.e., neurologically typical "NT" as the ASD people call "normal" people) invest a substantial part of their lives in socializing with others, spending time with others, or helping others. While the ASD person will spend their lifetime engrossed in their own interests. If these interests are intellectual or academic, then that is a substantial difference between these people (one person spends say a cumulative fifteen years of time socializing with others, while the other person say reads technical books for fifteen years, and develops none of the social skills).

I have met one ASD-Trans person and she was the CTO of an internet company. I met another one that is a manager of software development at a software company. I work for the federal government as a patent examiner at the Patent & Trademark Office. I met another one online at google groups "Trans PDD" that works where I work.

I say appear because these people have a limited occupational area in which they can be successful, and their social skills are likely to be very low.

Murg... I hate it when I conform to a stereotype... but since my title pretty much says it anyway...

Geekdom:
-Played Magic: the Gathering competitively, plus D&D, Yu-Gi-Oh, and Pokemon
-Video game player
-Long-time member of choirs. LOVE singing!
-Played violin for a few years in school, plus took piano lessons
-Total anime nerd.
-Have been writing my own fantasy novel since I was 15.

Nerdery:
-President of the math club and the science club in high school
-Scored in the top 10 in the county in math every single year of high school from Geometry to Calc, including a 1st-place in pre-calc.
-Won two engineering competitions... one for building a trebuchet out of balsa wood, the other for designing a boat out of K'nex.
-IQ of 135+ according to every test I've taken. (My mom won't tell me the actual number that I scored, because she says that it would make me develop a superiority complex. )
-Was an engineering major for most of my high school and college life
-Spent a good portion of high school writing programs for my graphing calculator. I even started programming my own RPG on it.
-Countless hours spent designing virtual roller coasters in No Limits Coaster, often using calculus and trig in order to do so, which not a lot of people do. (most designers just drag around the Bezier-curve control points.)

Not left-handed, though, and don't have ADD as far as I know. (That diagnosis wasn't popular yet when I was a school kid in early-90s rural Ohio, so I thankfully escaped it.) But definitely trans. The further in transition I go, the more and more I'm realizing just how bad I had it back in high school. It's a wonder that I accomplished all that I did considering how much emotional turmoil I was undergoing every single day due to gender issues.

I am not especially musical, don't play an instrument and the only programming language I understand to any degree is how to record a movie on my Sky Plus box... so... yeah, lol.

Not gonna comment on the IQ thing. I don't think those tests are accurate. At least in my case. I'm dumber than a box of rocks, even though they say otherwise.

Wow, I love how this thread blew up whilst I was away.  Very interesting and educational.

Although I freak out on airplanes, I did have simulators and R/C planes when I was a kid and built models.  I guess I was pretty nerdy before I turned into a stoner metalhead.  I never got into gaming though.  A bit of D&D in junior high, but that was about it.  I still love Star Trek.

I also didn't realize that I could have just as easily been a serial killer.   Good thing I transitioned before that happened. 

Quote from: Carrie Liz on October 24, 2013, 02:10:46 PM
-Spent a good portion of high school writing programs for my graphing calculator. I even started programming my own RPG on it.

Were you programming it in assembly? I only ever learned how to program in BASIC on those things, and that had some pretty serious limitations. My crowning achievement was that I actually wrote a playable clone of Space Invaders using the graphing functions to draw pixels. The downside was that I could only display two enemies at a time, and the game ran at about one frame per second.

I had wondered about this subject for a while.

I'm right handed, very smart and can do many amazing things with my hands. I also play guitar and was once a very good artist. I loved drawing landscapes and animals. I also have ADHD. I can't stand to drive a car with an automatic transmission because of the ADHD. Having to shift gears and dance on the pedals is so much fun! I also love anime, I actually watch more of it than regular TV.

I do recall being fairly adept with computer programming and drawing once upon a time, but that all got supplanted by music and partying, as I found I liked getting more attention from the ladies.  I do build my own circuits for guitar FX and amps sometimes and can wire/rewire a guitar without much thought.

I haven't tried to draw anything since college, as I knew too many "real" artists then that made my work look like it was drawn by a kindergartener.  I was WAY better at music anyway...

It's so nice to know I'm much less of a freak than I originally thought.

Quote from: Jill F on October 24, 2013, 03:11:36 PM
It's so nice to know I'm much less of a freak than I originally thought.

*giggle*  To me, that's a large part of the joy of being here at Susan's... I'm used to being a freakish person wherever I am, often the "smartest" in the room (but with little common sense, way more important than IQ to me).  Here, I don't feel that way much at all.  So much to learn from and share with my sisters and brothers.

I also just discovered that it was quite possible that during childhood I had oppositional defiant disorder, which often comes in a package with the ADHD . Also, according to WIKI (which as is, of course, highly questionable as an authoritative source..) individuals with high IQ and ADHD have a lowered risk of substance abuse - which was pretty much me. I never did any drugs, plus I just cant smoke - my body does not tolerate tobacco. And if I overdose alcohol, then I just get sick and I cant touch it for months afterwards.

Quote from: Miyuki on October 24, 2013, 02:38:52 PM
Were you programming it in assembly? I only ever learned how to program in BASIC on those things, and that had some pretty serious limitations. My crowning achievement was that I actually wrote a playable clone of Space Invaders using the graphing functions to draw pixels. The downside was that I could only display two enemies at a time, and the game ran at about one frame per second.

No, I actually was just programming it in basic. Which is one of the reasons why I never finished it, because of the limited variables available, and the sheer amount of time involved. But I did figure out on a basic level how to store player stats, how to roll for random encounters, how to program a map into it, and how to level up and learn new skills and whatnot. Again, I never even came close to finishing it. I maybe got done with 2 tiles worth of the map, after like 20 hours of work, before I finally said "f*** this" and gave up.

Quote from: Carrie Liz on October 24, 2013, 03:51:21 PM
No, I actually was just programming it in basic. Which is one of the reasons why I never finished it, because of the limited variables available, and the sheer amount of time involved. But I did figure out on a basic level how to store player stats, how to roll for random encounters, how to program a map into it, and how to level up and learn new skills and whatnot. Again, I never even came close to finishing it. I maybe got done with 2 tiles worth of the map, after like 20 hours of work, before I finally said "f*** this" and gave up.

You know, we need more women coders, and programing languages have gotten a *lot* better over the years, with online tutorials and ways you can run stuff on your system right away to play with it.  If, you know, you have some spare time.  Just sayin'. 

Come to the dark side, dear, we have cookies with multiple inheritance and polymorphism.  And you can instantiate as many chocolate chips as you want! 

Quote from: robinmack on October 24, 2013, 04:50:10 PM
You know, we need more women coders, and programing languages have gotten a *lot* better over the years, with online tutorials and ways you can run stuff on your system right away to play with it.  If, you know, you have some spare time.  Just sayin'. 

Come to the dark side, dear, we have cookies with multiple inheritance and polymorphism.  And you can instantiate as many chocolate chips as you want! 

Totally. Personally, I'm all about Ruby. When I first started programming in it I couldn't believe that someone had finally made a language where things that should be easy were easy, and everything followed a consistent set of rules. Now I won't program in anything else unless I have to (which is unfortunately a lot more of the time than I'd like).

Right on, sister!  Rails are optional.

Although I must admit I'm also a bit of a PERL girl.

I like Ruby! Rails not so much... but mainly Chunky Bacon!!

Right now I'm working in Tcl and Java. I mostly hate Tcl...

C# is my language of choice - it's what I did my thesis in (a network simulator).

  I would say that everyone assumes I would be a major geek for all these things.  While I'm smart enough to show interest in much of it I was never smart enough to be really good at any of it.  Also everyone assumes I'd be crazy into gaming and RPGs but I never was.  I have flown a plane.  I'm right-handed.  I prefer to learn and experiment rather than socialize.  Most of the things I have learned and will learn will likely go with me to the grave because I spend so little time sharing them with others.

  If anything I more have a thirst for knowledge and I'm good with physical technical things and designing/constructing mechanical projects.  I appreciate being in the company of people like all of you who have different intellectual gifts because my own skills can complement yours to create significantly more sophisticated things as a group than I can achieve alone.  I need people who are more socially 'normative' to help me bridge my social gap but I would most like to find smart people I can get along with that I can just be my smart self with and learn and create with.  Also, I desperately need a smart and non-social-obsessive girlfriend!