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Started by Ltl89, October 30, 2013, 09:31:19 PM

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Natalia

They might have noticed that something is different with you, but I really doubt that most people will think about you being on your way into your real self. Probably HRT is something unknown for most people that never had gender disphoria, as they never researched about it.

I think your co-workers might think you are a gay man and treat you like the other girls. They might think you are effeminate, but that doesn't mean they have spoted you as a MTF on HRT.

I have worked for two years on a department where I was the only guy around. Everyday I had lunch with the other girls and they didn't mind talking about girl subjects next to me. Sometimes my boss waved at our department with a "hello girls" and then she realized I was there too. Kind of strange, but it never bothered me. The few guys on my office treated me as a very shy and polite guy. I doubt they ever though anything about me.

But my advice is: don't give too much attention to it. Your behavior might change if you are too concerned about being spotted and that may cause your co-workers to think something is wrong. People that are too worried about hiding something ends up causing more questions. The more you hide is the more you reveal.

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evecrook

The sad thing is that no mater what there is always going a few idiots out there.
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Ltl89

Quote from: Natalia on November 10, 2013, 09:49:15 AM
They might have noticed that something is different with you, but I really doubt that most people will think about you being on your way into your real self. Probably HRT is something unknown for most people that never had gender disphoria, as they never researched about it.

I think your co-workers might think you are a gay man and treat you like the other girls. They might think you are effeminate, but that doesn't mean they have spoted you as a MTF on HRT.

I have worked for two years on a department where I was the only guy around. Everyday I had lunch with the other girls and they didn't mind talking about girl subjects next to me. Sometimes my boss waved at our department with a "hello girls" and then she realized I was there too. Kind of strange, but it never bothered me. The few guys on my office treated me as a very shy and polite guy. I doubt they ever though anything about me.

But my advice is: don't give too much attention to it. Your behavior might change if you are too concerned about being spotted and that may cause your co-workers to think something is wrong. People that are too worried about hiding something ends up causing more questions. The more you hide is the more you reveal.

I'd usually agree with this, but one of my best friends used to work there and two of my co-workers know about my transition.  So, it's not like the concept is definitely foreign to everyone.  In any case, you are probably right.  I shouldn't let it get to me.  It's only an aspect of who I am and it's not the end of the world.  As long as they don't see it as a problem and they are happy with my work (let's hope, lol), that is all that matters.  And I'm getting the vibe that it won't be an issue at all which is good

Quote from: evecrook on November 10, 2013, 10:10:53 AM
The sad thing is that no mater what there is always going a few idiots out there.

That's true; however, I'm really not expecting things will go terrible at work.  Everyone is really sweet and open there.  And those who know about me have been nothing short of awesome and very nice to me. I don't know if they are aware that I know they know (lol) but they have treated me as a person with respect.  For that, I am eternally grateful.  I imagine the rest of them will be the same, but there is always that lingering fear.  Still, I'm more worried about society in general.  Those that know you are sometimes more forgiving of any perceived eccentricities or idiosyncrasies.   Then again, like my family has proven to me, those who know you sometimes have the highest expectations and can be the most brutal.  As far as work goes, my worry isn't about anyone being an idiot (it's really not that sort of environment) but I'm just scared to let anyone know the truth.  Even though I keep getting the vibe that it will be okay there, I'm scared.  I wish transitioning were easier. 

How I would love to just walk outside as female right now and start living without fear and hiding; yet, I'm not there emotionally or physically.   Still, I have made a lot of progress from where I started according to everyone that knows.  And at the very least, I just recently started an optimal dose of estradiol (for me), so I'm hoping I will keep making physical progress.  My endo has been moving me slowly but I understand that she wants me to do it safely.  Well, at least I'm finally really on a normal dose.  For now, I will just eagerly await what comes. :)

Ah, more of my ranting and whining! How fun for us all, lol.  :D

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Natalia

Quote from: learningtolive on November 10, 2013, 12:03:29 PM
How I would love to just walk outside as female right now and start living without fear and hiding; yet, I'm not there emotionally or physically.   Still, I have made a lot of progress from where I started according to everyone that knows.  And at the very least, I just recently started an optimal dose of estradiol (for me), so I'm hoping I will keep making physical progress.  My endo has been moving me slowly but I understand that she wants me to do it safely.  Well, at least I'm finally really on a normal dose.  For now, I will just eagerly await what comes. :)

Ah, more of my ranting and whining! How fun for us all, lol.  :D



Me too! :D Actually, I envy you, because you already took big steps that I am really afraid of taking! Some friends know about your treatment and so does your family, right? It is a big step!

And, to tell you the truth, it is a good thing when someone notice you becoming more feminine, because this is the real goal of HRT, right? I know it might bring unwanted consequences, but we all knew the risks beforing starting HRT and we always knew there will come a day where we will have to come out. Probably you'll do fine!

Family, friends, no one knows about my condition but me. Currently I am finishing my degree and I am unemployed. Only to think that my decision will affect my chances of getting a job on my area (pharmacy and biochemistry) is more than enough to make me feel really bad...and when my mom discovers it. Well, she has really bad depression problems and historic of trying suicide...I just hope she won't try one more when I tell her.
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Ltl89

Quote from: Natalia on November 10, 2013, 01:05:46 PM
Me too! :D Actually, I envy you, because you already took big steps that I am really afraid of taking! Some friends know about your treatment and so does your family, right? It is a big step!

And, to tell you the truth, it is a good thing when someone notice you becoming more feminine, because this is the real goal of HRT, right? I know it might bring unwanted consequences, but we all knew the risks beforing starting HRT and we always knew there will come a day where we will have to come out. Probably you'll do fine!

Family, friends, no one knows about my condition but me. Currently I am finishing my degree and I am unemployed. Only to think that my decision will affect my chances of getting a job on my area (pharmacy and biochemistry) is more than enough to make me feel really bad...and when my mom discovers it. Well, she has really bad depression problems and historic of trying suicide...I just hope she won't try one more when I tell her.

Oh, I know about mother problems, lol.  I have an unending thread somewhere in the coming out section which details exactly what happened.  It wasn't pretty (and still isn't), but it was necessary.  Sometimes we have to live for ourselves and not worry about what everyone thinks, but it's hard and it changes things.   In my case, my mother is opposed to my decision and makes things very hard for me on an emotional level.   I've always been a mommy's girl, so not having her approval is devastating to me.  But we will work through it and our relationship will be all the better for having gone through this difficult time.  At least, that's what I am aiming for.  However, she doesn't realize how hard she makes things for me.  She thinks her opposition will save me, but in reality it is just making each step in life harder and prolonging the hardships that I face.  It just helps reinforce the wall that I want to tear down.  In any event, I hope your mother will be more sympathetic and understanding.  Just remember that coming out is a process and things will take time. 

Good on you for finishing your degree.  That sounds like a good plan and you are bound to go far, especially since you are studying biochem.  And don't kick yourself for waiting.  We all have to start somewhere in life.  I wish I had started when I was younger (24 at the moment) but today is better than never. 

Have you thought about coming out to a close friend?  It might do some good.  I told some of my friends way before I started my transition and it was incredibly helpful.  Sometimes coming out can even help strengthen a friendship because it really highlights how special those people are.  If you can't do that, what about coming out to a support group?  Sometimes just saying it to someone is really liberating. 

In any event, good luck.  I've been there and know how tough it is.  As you can see, I'm still there, but things are getting more bearable and I can see the light at the end of the tunnel (even if it is a bit far and I'm only travelling 15 mph).  And of course, there are many who made it out to the other side safety, so keep your head up and do what's best for you. 
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