I went to a local clinic last year to see about getting T and, among other known reasons, he said he didn't want to prescribe it to me because it'd make me stop growing. Now, I don't mind being told I'm too young, but I've searched all over and can't find anything that says HRT makes you stop growing! So my question is have you heard of this or is it true? Thanks

I've read about a trans guy here in my country who was underaged and started the transition. He had to go through physical examinations to determine if he was still growing because apparently taking T would slow down or stop his growing altogether, so I think there's some point behind that claim.

I was well past 18 when I started so nothing from my personal experiences.

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Quote from: TrojanMan on November 15, 2013, 06:24:20 PM
I went to a local clinic last year to see about getting T and, among other known reasons, he said he didn't want to prescribe it to me because it'd make me stop growing. Now, I don't mind being told I'm too young, but I've searched all over and can't find anything that says HRT makes you stop growing! So my question is have you heard of this or is it true? Thanks

Welcome Ive never heard of that, Ive heard it increasing your growing if your growth plates arent set, That's a good question though

i was told the same thing but from someone online instead of an actual doctor. I literally freaked out. I want to be as freaking huge as i possibly can and if T would stop that i was actually scared of taking it. so i looked up a bunch online and i'm just relaying what i found.

in biological guys, T slows down the process of bone mending (after your bones mend you stop growing); also called growth plates; while in biological girls estrogen speeds it up. but some bio guys that take more T to try and be manlier; that extra T speeds up bone mending because it is "fake" T and not something that'd help height growth. then i looked up more about T and found that T that trans guys take isn't the "natural" T that bioguys create in their testes which helps them grow, it's man made, sort of like the stuff bio guys take that speeds up bone mending. but then i found that some types of T were "bioidentical" which is pretty much the same as "natural" T but only slightly different. injectable T isn't usually made with bioidentical T but transdermal (gels, patches) and most of the other types of T are made with bioidentical T. i'm not sure if the slight difference between "natural" and "bioidentical" T speeds or slows down bone mending but i'm hoping for the latter.

be warned though, all information i know has not come from an actual doctor, just from the internet (although i tried to get it off reliable sites you never know).

Quote from: Quinnfong on November 15, 2013, 06:49:18 PM
i was told the same thing but from someone online instead of an actual doctor. I literally freaked out. I want to be as freaking huge as i possibly can and if T would stop that i was actually scared of taking it. so i looked up a bunch online and i'm just relaying what i found.

in biological guys, T slows down the process of bone mending (after your bones mend you stop growing); also called growth plates; while in biological girls estrogen speeds it up. but some bio guys that take more T to try and be manlier; that extra T speeds up bone mending because it is "fake" T and not something that'd help height growth. then i looked up more about T and found that T that trans guys take isn't the "natural" T that bioguys create in their testes which helps them grow, it's man made, sort of like the stuff bio guys take that speeds up bone mending. but then i found that some types of T were "bioidentical" which is pretty much the same as "natural" T but only slightly different. injectable T isn't usually made with bioidentical T but transdermal (gels, patches) and most of the other types of T are made with bioidentical T. i'm not sure if the slight difference between "natural" and "bioidentical" T speeds or slows down bone mending but i'm hoping for the latter.

be warned though, all information i know has not come from an actual doctor, just from the internet (although i tried to get it off reliable sites you never know).

This is something I did not know! Thankyou ill have to research this, maybe androgel or something similar would work. I have the same deal with the growth too, I'm already short enough I need to be able to grow haha.

Yes that could happen, afaik, with young people. It might be possible for you to go on hormone blockers. They are expensive and only people with good insurance can afford them.

I'd really be cautious of medical advice from non-doctors though.

--Jay

Quote from: Quinnfong on November 15, 2013, 06:49:18 PM
i was told the same thing but from someone online instead of an actual doctor. I literally freaked out. I want to be as freaking huge as i possibly can and if T would stop that i was actually scared of taking it. so i looked up a bunch online and i'm just relaying what i found.

in biological guys, T slows down the process of bone mending (after your bones mend you stop growing); also called growth plates; while in biological girls estrogen speeds it up. but some bio guys that take more T to try and be manlier; that extra T speeds up bone mending because it is "fake" T and not something that'd help height growth. then i looked up more about T and found that T that trans guys take isn't the "natural" T that bioguys create in their testes which helps them grow, it's man made, sort of like the stuff bio guys take that speeds up bone mending. but then i found that some types of T were "bioidentical" which is pretty much the same as "natural" T but only slightly different. injectable T isn't usually made with bioidentical T but transdermal (gels, patches) and most of the other types of T are made with bioidentical T. i'm not sure if the slight difference between "natural" and "bioidentical" T speeds or slows down bone mending but i'm hoping for the latter.

be warned though, all information i know has not come from an actual doctor, just from the internet (although i tried to get it off reliable sites you never know).

Injectible T is identical to biological T, the only difference is that it has a kinda resting solution that allows it to dissipate over time.  So when you inject it your T level doesn't shoot up to a gazzilion and hit rock bottom the next day.

The problem can occur because cis boys go through a longer puberty and when T guys start T, it's a little shorter because we haven't had T in our systems all out lives like the cis-boys have and in order to kinda kick start our bodies into puberty, we often need to boost the T levels quite high.

However, there'd be ways to maybe let it happen a little slower if you were willing to sacrifice that for increased growth.  So the voice change may be slower and facial hair and fat distribution changes may take longer but it would perhaps, but not certainly, stop this growth issue from being a major concern. 

I'd say your best bet is to find a way to get a doctor where YOU have the authority to say whether you get T or not (along with parental consent, of course).  A doctor can't just refuse to give you something because of a concern he has for you, YOU have to have that concern yourself to refuse the treatment, not vice versa.  If he's not willing to give it to you for this reason, find a new doctor.  Find one who will listen to your worries and see if they have any suggestions for a plan of attack to avoid this potential side effect rather than just point blank not start.  At that point YOU can make the final decision on what you want to do.

Transdermal (i.e., medication is absorbed through the skin)
In general, most transdermal forms of prescription testosterone (such as gels, creams, and patches) contain bioidentical testosterone. Because bioidentical testosterone becomes active quickly once absorbed through the skin, it must be applied daily to maintain appropriate levels of testosterone in the body. Depending on the formulation, transdermal preparations might also include additional ingredients to accelerate the absorption of the testosterone through the skin. Some of these ingredients can cause side effects, such as rashes and skin irritation. Transdermal testosterone is available in both brand-name and compounded preparations; a prescription for compounded transdermal testosterone can be tailored by your doctor for your specific dosage requirements. (For more information on transdermal testosterone systems, see the Testosterone Types and Delivery page. For more information on compounding, see the Compounding Pharmacies page.)

Sublingual/buccal
Sublingual and buccal testosterone treatments, which are dissolved in the mouth rather than swallowed, are generally made with bioidentical testosterone. Sublingual preparations are dissolved under the tongue; these can be prepared by compounding pharmacies. Buccal testosterone delivery works placing a tablet against the surface of the gums. Buccal testosterone systems are available as name-brand or compounded preparations. Sublingual/buccal delivery is different from oral delivery in that very little of the substance is swallowed, avoiding potential "first pass effect" problems with the liver. Because bioidentical testosterone is absorbed quickly through sublingual/buccal routes, it must be applied more than once a day to maintain appropriate levels of testosterone in the body. (For more information on sublingual and buccal testosterone systems, see the Testosterone Types and Delivery page. For more information on compounding, see the Compounding Pharmacies page.)

Subcutaneous pellet
Subcutaneous testosterone pellets are made of bioidentical, crystalline testosterone that is implanted beneath the skin. The pellets are about the size of a grain of rice, and are typically placed in the buttocks or abdomen by a doctor. Because of their crystalline form, the testosterone in subcutaneous pellets is released slowly over a period of weeks or months. (For more information on subcutaneous testosterone systems, see the Testosterone Types and Delivery page. For more information on compounding, see the Compounding Pharmacies page.)

Injectables
As mentioned previously on this page, injectable testosterone is prepared mainly in the form of testosterone esters such as testosterone cypionate or testosterone enanthate. (For a more detailed description of testosterone esters, see the Testosterone Types and Delivery page.) Because a testosterone ester is a modified form of the testosterone molecule, it should not technically be considered a bioidentical form of testosterone. However, when testosterone esters are released into the bloodstream, the ester group is cleaved off by "esterase enzymes" in a process known as "hydrolization." Once the ester group has been removed by these enzymes, the testosterone is returned to its free, bioidentical form, thus making it bioavailable and ready to perform its various actions and effects. (For more information on injectable testosterone systems, see the Testosterone Types and Delivery page. For more information on compounding, see the Compounding Pharmacies page.)

Oral
Bioidentical testosterone is never taken orally since it will be immediately deactivated by the liver due to the "first pass effect." Two non-bioidentical forms of testosterone have been used in testosterone therapy: methyltestosterone and testosterone undecanoate.

As mentioned previously, methyltestosterone is one of the earliest available oral testosterones. Its chemical structure is the hormone testosterone with an added methyl group at the c-17 alpha position of the molecule. The use of oral c-17 alpha methylated testosterone is not recommended due to its potential toxicity to the liver.

http://www.ftmguide.org/bioidenticalt.html