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Situations where your real name will be used. How do you deal with them?

Started by Apples Mk.II, July 25, 2013, 04:41:21 PM

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Apples Mk.II

My way of dealing with them was by showing as a guy to avoid the shame, or avoid using credit cards since, But I can't keep doing that...


Tomorrow I'm visiting the doctor for a follow-up on the surgery. Obviusly, the nurse comes out, and shouts a lot of names on the order that people will be entering. Full name and surname, to be exact. And despite that, I will be going as a girl there. This will keep happening on a future, but that's life, I guess. What I don't know is how I will react when a room full of bored people looks at me... But it's something I need to do.


I can't think of similar situations, but I suppose they will come (I can't change my name until after a year of succesful RLE). And you, how do you take on those?

Regards.
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suzifrommd

Quote from: Apple Sprout on July 25, 2013, 04:41:21 PM
And you, how do you take on those?

Proudly.

There is no shame in being transgender. If someone asks I let them know that my male name is a "name that I go by," and that I'm working on "getting it changed". Most people can connect the dots from there.
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Misato

With my ID I just say, "Worst Hair day Ever"

With my credit card, I just sign it with Paige.

At the doctor, I tell the front desk clerk to put a note on my chart to have the nurse call Paige.

I agree with the no shame in being trans comment.  I just can't stand hearing that name applied to me.
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smile_jma

Who really looks at credit cards anymore? I've used my bosses card so many times, and the clerk/cashier..whatever's more PC, doesn't really care. The only time there was a little hubbub was at Costco, but that was about the costco id.

I see so many cashiers swipe and give it back, not caring to look at the name or the sig on the back (if you have one). The few who do ask for ID, I suppose could be a problem, but they seem very rare to come by. So many more self swiping too, noone gets a chance to look at your card.
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Chaos

I dont really have any issues with it because i know that it is still attached to my insurance and i havent gotten a name change yet.I know that expecting (personally of course) others to see one thing but say another,can be very confusing.I deal with it for now and once the change is completed,then i would probably have no tolerance for using my past name (once all paper work is changed over) there will be no excuse for it after that.But for now,i have accepted my current state and know in my heart that it wont last long and i see it as *a small pain until healing comes and it will* its a small price to pay until then
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Kelly-087

I've just got my judgement of name change signed so technically Im legally kelly~ But I still have many documents to legally change, most pertinent being SS Card and Drivers license.

Which I dont mind. :D Obviously. Kelly is a boy and girls name but still more of girls name in the US. Not that it matters.

My doctor is very accomodating and her Medical assistant is very sweet~ Rather than calling my name she'd come out and meet me personally. I use Kelly where people dont know me. And will use it everywhre by the end of September
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MaryXYX

Quote from: Apple Sprout on July 25, 2013, 04:41:21 PM
I can't change my name until after a year of succesful RLE.

Why is that?  I was told I couldn't start official RLE until I had a legal name change.

I only had one embarassing incident - and I wasn't the one who was embarassed.  A few days after transition I had my bus pass inspected for the first time ever.  The inspecter looked at the pass and at me and said "That's not right, is it?"  I put on my deepest male voice and replied "I've only just changed my name, I haven't changed the photo yet."  He almost threw the pass back at me and backed off real quick.
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Apples Mk.II

Quote from: MaryXYX on September 16, 2013, 08:34:41 AM
Why is that?  I was told I couldn't start official RLE until I had a legal name change.

Quite restricting national laws. For starters, the law regarding name registration and change bans any name that won't allow to guess the gender, or names  of the opposite gender. The law has quite an obsession with gender identification, like if the ones that created it had some manhood issues or whatever. We come from a disctatorship that ended around 35 years ago but still carry a lot of outdated ultracatholic whatever laws.

So I can't do a name and gender change until I have been living as the desired gender for at least two years. As a way of saying "sorry", the service here will give you a temporary ID when you start the hormonation.



Anyways, I lost my wallet back in August and had to redo everything, so at least the photo is now recent:





As ridiculous as usual...

Which saves me a lot of trouble when paying for things. Despite everything, Yesterday I had a technician calling by my real nam, and I was already dressed in female attire and with half my make up done. So quite irritatated.
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Evolving Beauty

Quote from: Apple Sprout on September 26, 2013, 05:07:24 AM
Quite restricting national laws. For starters, the law regarding name registration and change bans any name that won't allow to guess the gender, or names  of the opposite gender. The law has quite an obsession with gender identification, like if the ones that created it had some manhood issues or whatever. We come from a disctatorship that ended around 35 years ago but still carry a lot of outdated ultracatholic whatever laws.

So I can't do a name and gender change until I have been living as the desired gender for at least two years. As a way of saying "sorry", the service here will give you a temporary ID when you start the hormonation.



Anyways, I lost my wallet back in August and had to redo everything, so at least the photo is now recent:





As ridiculous as usual...

Which saves me a lot of trouble when paying for things. Despite everything, Yesterday I had a technician calling by my real nam, and I was already dressed in female attire and with half my make up done. So quite irritatated.

Hola,

Oye no te creas eh...conozco una amiga que lo cambio en solo 6 meses sin pasar por Ramon & Cajal y los 2 años. De que provincia eres? De lo que me dijo ella tiene buen contacto con Carla Antonelli la diputada trans de Madrid. Si eres de Madrid puedes intentar a ir a ver ella para adelantar tu caso.

A mi tambien me da mucha verguenza cuando me llaman en hospital, oficina de correos y otro sitios pero bueno intento de ignorar toda la gente y en mi cabeza pienso...esa gente no me conocen de todos modos y que mas le da saber quien soy...
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vlmitchell

Only time that I ever deal with the old name is on legal documents. Cannot wait 'till my hearing date so that I can just be one thing but, really, keeping it as long as I have (almost 3 years full time) has forced me to accept myself in a unique way so, it really doesn't bother me all that much anymore.
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HelloKitty

Yeah, I just used to show them my ID but told them I go by "Hailey."

Not much else I coulda done at the time, and it outed me every time.

When I first would walk up and talk to them I got a normal, positive reaction from them; just one of the girls.

But when my ID was a guys name and asked them to call me Hailey...it took an instant nose dive.
They seemed to be very awkward and didnt really want to deal with me.

So glad all my ID is finally chgnged over now :)
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maximusloverus

I guess you can say I'm pretty lucky when it comes to my name. My real name is Dominique though through early years it was pronounced in the feminine sense when people see me today they now pronouce it as "dominic". Easy transition for me  ;D
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Eva Marie

Quote from: HelloKitty on November 12, 2013, 09:16:04 AM
When I first would walk up and talk to them I got a normal, positive reaction from them; just one of the girls.

But when my ID was a guys name and asked them to call me Hailey...it took an instant nose dive.
They seemed to be very awkward and didnt really want to deal with me.

I ran into this a bit yesterday when I was out shopping. I'd hand them the driver's license with the male ID and watch their expression change, just like clockwork. One older lady at CVS couldn't even look me in the eye after that happened. I guess that's not all bad since I seem to be passing well enough to cause that to happen.

I try to shop with cash when I can to avoid this, but I don't always have cash handy so out will come the boy credit cards and ID.

My legal name change will happen sometime in the first 6 months of next year and then I won't have to fool with it anymore. I am what I am and am not ashamed of it; if there is a problem it's THEIR problem, not my problem.


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Jill F

Quote from: Eva Marie on November 17, 2013, 09:53:14 AM
I am what I am and am not ashamed of it; if there is a problem it's THEIR problem, not my problem.

^This!
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Apples Mk.II

In the end, my troubles seem to be esteeming from not carrying cash with and me and being too damn lazy to use the ATM. Apart from that, the name situations are the ones that imply doctors or legal checks. When I am asked by my name, I just give the two surnames, and after that they seem to catch quickly and when called later in a waiting room, use the surnames and not the name.
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Incarlina

Changing my name was the first thing I did after getting the official diagnosis. At first people would look at the name, then at me, and then say "Oh. Right."

Now after voice therapy and a lot of electrolysis my big problem is when I pick up mail or cash checks sent to my old name. People tend to ask "This isn't you, is it?" And I simply tell them it's my old name, and no one seems to care much.
Diagnosis [X] Hormones [X] Voice therapy [X] Electrolysis [/] FT [X] GRS [ ]
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Apples Mk.II

Time to make a small update.

1)No matter how much I check the law, I'm still required to wait two years on HRT and get a therapist letter before changing to a female name  And the gender Change. Names need to be matched to the gender, in a language while literally every inanimate object is gendered despite its real gender. Whale is always used with female pronouns, same goes for teapot... Even "law" is female. I can't begin to wonder how this can be a nuisance for foreigners trying to learn our language.

2) As things are now, being as visibly trans as possible is a major issue, specially with Job hunting. The issue of having a fully male name with a female presentation is proving to be problematic, being close to 60 days full time. So I can't imagine the next 700 days this way.

3)When I changed the ID card picture in September, I solved the issue of people looking up and down from the ID to my face trying to find a match. But if I present male the problem comes up again.

4) I need to look for a job, and possibly change countries, but since my nationality it's not going to change, I'll be in a huge mess for doing these things if I move out. The different name gets me more distress when I am in a foreign country.


So, I've tried to follow these workaround since now it's possibly the best moment to do it:

a) Despide not being able to do the full female name and gender maker swap, I am still entitled to do a standard name change

b) When I picked my new name (Noah), I was not sure about what was going to be my future. I had to rush it since therapist asked me by a new name and I had a hard time using female pronouns at the time. That's why I had my goals set on a name that could be used in both genders. I still feel genderfluid, so it works better for me.

c) The requirement for doing a stantard name change (Male to male) is that "It is the name I am recognized by in my daily life", provided that I can present private documents showing that the name is used in communications (I have my work e-mails, friends... And well, The whatsapp logs, although that can't be very useful) and two witnesses.

The plan goes like this: Judge will first check if Noah meets the requirements (not being offensive, not being used by a brother, when paired with the surname does not create an offensive or funny phrase). That day I will present male. If he clocks the name as female or sees that I am transgender, there is a big chance he will deny the name change.




Once I have a matching name, I can't change the other major documents, such as the driving license, credit cards and bank accounts. There is one major issues: MY studies and work registries and certificates. The are automatically changed once I get the letter from the therapist, but my past will keep giving me away until then. Still not a major issue since that will only be seen by very specific persons, but on the day to day life my bum should be covered.


Not that my family will be happy with it, but I have been telling them all my life that I despise my name, and I never identified very well with it. Their major concern was obviously changing the old documents and titles in order to keep stealth and protect me when I have fully adopted the new identity. Despite considering working as male if necessary until I get FFS, it's a major isse, both mentally and in terms of breast growth (the only things that seems to be moving forwards in my body).
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Shelly Lullaby

Well, I am still way before transition, but I think I have the majority figured out. I'm going to the UK this summer to work and to live there, although only my best friend knows that I don't ever want to come home again, maybe on holydays. So, after I'm living there, it's 5 years before I can apply for naturalization. By that time I want to start my transition, at least 2 years before that, so when I become a British citizen, I can then change my gender and my hungarian male name to a british female one as well. Just to make it a bit easier, if something problematic shows up, both my intended "girl" names are unisex, so I can change it even if I cannot change my gender. Btw I never even knew Shelly was unisex until I saw it the other day somewhere on the web. My other name is/will be Hayden, so the new name I'll want to have after naturalization is Shelly Hayden Lullaby.

If it is possible, I want to have Shellan instead of Shelly, but that seems rather problematic as "shellan" is a word in the vampire language in the Black Dagger Brotherhood books, so it's not legalized as a first name in the UK I think, and I think the author has to permit usage of it as it is the product of her mind.  :-\

And about my male name. Even though I present as male 7/24 because of family reasons - one of the main reasons I'm moving to another country - I always have nausea when I hear it. I just hate it. I'm Shelly, Shells, even Shellsie when I've drank enough, but not that.  >:(
"All the hardest, coldest people you meet were once as soft as water. And that's the tragedy of living."
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Paulagirl

Most places that have to use your legal name will gladly call you by your preferred name just by asking. At a Drs. office, for example, I just hand over my guy name health card, and say 'Call me Paula, please'. Most will even make a note on your files.
There will be times someone shouts out your guy name, no matter what you've asked. Nobody else is listening for your name, and they don't even look up. Them's the breaks. I was at the dentist once, and the girl picked up the next file, looked at it, and then me, puzzled, and called out 'Last name xxxxx'. Very tactful.
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