Quote from: Michelle-G on November 24, 2013, 07:04:49 PM
Your soul isn't something you have.  It's what you are, and unlike the body it is eternal.  YOU are your soul.  YOU have a gender.  YOU know all of this because it's imprinted in the form of your identity which resides in your soul.

Ah!  That's the way I learned about body soul and spirit.  It's not that the body has a soul - rather the soul has a body which may have imperfections.  Some people have physical disabilities or deformities or long term disease.  All of us experience our "outer shell" decaying with time until it is finally no longer functional.  If we lose the use of a limb, or have something removed (appendix, tonsils ...) we are not less of a person.

I'm in the middle of a long-term discussion with my pastor about this stuff.  He has pretty much said that he does not feel any transgendered behaviors are sinful in and of themselves, and the line in Leviticus is lumped in with mixed fiber clothing, so It shouldn't be taken literally today.

Also, Galatians 3:28 (NIV)

There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Quote from: particle on December 08, 2013, 05:02:51 AM
I'm in the middle of a long-term discussion with my pastor about this stuff.  He has pretty much said that he does not feel any transgendered behaviors are sinful in and of themselves, and the line in Leviticus is lumped in with mixed fiber clothing, so It shouldn't be taken literally today.

The verse about cross dressing in Deuteronomy, which many modern Rabbis interpret as "A man shall not disguise himself as a woman to dodge military service, and you shall not forcibly enlist a woman", is in the same chapter as the prohibition on wearing a garment of mixed fabric, and the bit that says if your daughter is raped you have to sell her to the rapist.

The first bit about your pastor sounds to me a bit too close to what my previous church said.  Being homosexual is not sinful, provided the person remains celibate.  I'm not sure what your pastor means by "transgendered behaviours" as opposed to being transgender.  The leader of my previous church didn't seem to understand transgender so he seemed to decide to treat me as a homosexual, which is of course the ultimate sin.

jesus also said in the end times, there is neither male nor female.
and to my knowledge, there is no commandment stating males must do this, or females must do that.
when the bible says he, its usually eing generic because man is another name for human.