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Rant: Beauty "writing," my genderNOPE of the day

Started by musicofthenight, December 04, 2013, 10:20:00 PM

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musicofthenight

genderNOPE - The feeling of alienation and dis-identification from a gender group set off by something that just makes you go NOPE. 

E.g. guys talking indiscreetly and disrespectfully about their sex partners.  NOPE!


Well, I've managed to drive myself up the wall, proving that this is something I can experience with femininity too. 


I just want to have basic hairstyling literacy, is that too much to ask?  It's always been something I hated, parents forcing me to get it cut, and I've really liked the freedom to just let it grow.   Finally it's getting long enough to do something with.

Dear God, I thought writing about makeup was shallow.  Discovering basic principles and patterns is like pulling teeth - your own teeth and without anesthesia.  The average article about hairstyle online is written at a first-grade level with lots of pictures of famous-people-I-don't-really-care-about and zero respect for its reader's intellect.  It's been a heck of a fight to find out there are five (or four or six, maybe?) mother cuts from which all others are derived.  I actually had to watch a video (from Rachel Ray's show) to get an extremely sketchy outline. 

A video.

I loathe presentations.  At best they're a decent substitute for hands-on tutorial, but 99% of the time words and pictures, including diagrams, will teach me more in a tenth the time - part of this is my learning style, part my intelligence, but I note that men hardly ever get spoken down to like this.  (Unless the topic is sex or feelings.  Men are sooo dumb about those.)

Yeah, practically speaking I can see I'll have to go to the library to get what I want, but I'm not done venting yet.


Why is it that on the Internet, founded and inhabited by the greatest geeks in history ever - including, yes, a lot of geek women - is it taboo to talk about girly things at an intelligent level?  Is it sexism?  Do I have any right to show up, crash my way into femininity, and criticize the Way Things Are Done anyway?

Heavy questions, both of them.

But if it's oppression, it's something women do to themselves.

- Hold on, time to double check what I'm talking about. -

I see an expectation that women should buy things: makeup, clothing, accessories, health products, beauty services, etc. etc. without even a basic understanding how they work or the related aesthetic principles.  I'm not saying everyone should know how to compound her own hair conditioner, but how strange and nerdy would it be to be able to read the ingredients list and know what even half of them are?  Does the Average Woman know, even roughly, how a bespoke dress would be fitted?  Or is she supposed to blame her body when (of course) nothing on the rack fits right?

This is an artifact of commercialization.  Let's not romanticize old-school gender roles, but - darn it! - back in the day women knew an awful lot.  That domestic drudgery took a lot more brains than knowing how to swipe plastic.  And men haven't been immune either - compare a farmer of a half-century ago to today's men too scared to fix the brakes on their own cars.  (Drives me batty, that one.)


But anyway, it really is women writing this junk, publishing it, buying it.  So either oppression has been so deeply internalized that it doesn't even depend on oppressors anymore or, hey, I don't fit in.  Again.

Either way, it sucks.




Theme song of this rant: "Stupid Girls" by P!nk.
What do you care what other people think? ~Arlene Feynman
trans-tom / androgyne / changes profile just for fun


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Lo

With haircuts, is there actually any need to get the whole history of a style before you settle on something? I mean, I cut my own hair and still all I do is go "I like that picture" and hack away. You don't NEED anything more than a photo unless you're a stylist that actually knows what to do with all of that extra information that you want. Why is knowing what the mother cuts are important in your desicion on which way to chop your hair? That information's not out there because unless you're a costumer or stylist yourself, nobody cares.

I find that the vast majority of how-to articles online to be ridiculously thin and meaningless anyways, regardless of target audience. Did a search for "how to use a presta valve" yesterday and got a hundred thousand results where step one was literally "have an air pump".

Sure, writing targeted at feminine audiences tend to be sugary, but crappy information is the bread and butter of the internet. Having a search result, no matter the quality of what you wrote (and if I had a dollar for every copypasted blog post/article), is what drives the internet ad revenue economy.
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Kaelin

Even with preferring a short hairstyle, I still find this problem of not getting clear descriptions and explanations of what different styles are.  Sure, there are Pixie ("female") / Caesar ("male") haircuts, but there's a great variety of how they can turn, and there's just not easily-accessible language to differentiate them further.
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musicofthenight

On second glance, I'm afraid I have to agree with Lo: it really is just me.  I realized this when I had a brand-new space heater torn apart so I could rewire it because some idiot decided the thermostat should shut off both the heating elements and the fan, and the noise of it turning on and off was keeping me awake.  (Not helped by the fact that it's 80% plastic - yes, a space heater made of plastic - and was in no way designed to minimize rattling).  Oh, it was also refusing to turn back on until the room got cold, a side effect of latent heat soaking the thermostat, because some idiot decided to turn the fan off.  Along the way, I noticed that the thermostat was designed to fail fairly soon.  When it does, I think I'll put in a proper PWM PID thermostat, which will likely cost more than the heater...

I am an incurable nerd.  About everything I care about.  Which is why "just make my hair look like Person X" without understanding the whys of it has no interest for me.
What do you care what other people think? ~Arlene Feynman
trans-tom / androgyne / changes profile just for fun


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VeronicaLynn

Men's fitness/fashion magazines are not any better, in many ways worse. Even if an average guy did follow the workout plan in the article, there's no way he would ever look like the guy in the picture that's been on steroids for 5+ years and was following a much more rigorous workout. The style of writing in men's fashion magazines is no different than Cosmo/Glamour/etc.

I think I used to own the same heater fan. Would you really want it to blow cold air when the heating element is off? My central heat is like this and I hate it.
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Shantel

Quote from: VeronicaLynn on December 10, 2013, 12:28:08 PM
Men's fitness/fashion magazines are not any better, in many ways worse. Even if an average guy did follow the workout plan in the article, there's no way he would ever look like the guy in the picture that's been on steroids for 5+ years and was following a much more rigorous workout. The style of writing in men's fashion magazines is no different than Cosmo/Glamour/etc.

I think I used to own the same heater fan. Would you really want it to blow cold air when the heating element is off? My central heat is like this and I hate it.

Haha this whole thread is funny, which reminds me I'm about to head out to see the hair stylist and see if she can think outside of the box when she looks at my head and instead of thinking (man) perhaps this time she will think (androgyne) maybe even (female). Meanwhile while I wait I'll catch up on "How to get a man to bone you" in Cosmo.  :D
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VeronicaLynn

Quote from: Shantel on December 12, 2013, 11:40:39 AM
Haha this whole thread is funny, which reminds me I'm about to head out to see the hair stylist and see if she can think outside of the box when she looks at my head and instead of thinking (man) perhaps this time she will think (androgyne) maybe even (female).   :D

I may have said this before, but it's generally remarkable if the hair stylist gives you some style that is not what they are wearing themselves. If you don't want her/his style when they call your name, run!!! Or better yet, just do your hair yourself...
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Taka

Quote from: VeronicaLynn on December 15, 2013, 01:55:14 AM
I may have said this before, but it's generally remarkable if the hair stylist gives you some style that is not what they are wearing themselves. If you don't want her/his style when they call your name, run!!! Or better yet, just do your hair yourself...
that's not true. i always tell the hairdresser exactly how i want them to cut my hair, and they do it that way. i have never failed to get the result i wanted, and one really pro hairdresser even completely restyled my hair in only 15 minutes (had to do it fast, for i had to catch a bus). it was nearly the complete opposite of her own hairstyle.

best way to learn about hairstyles is to go to a salon and watch what the hairdressers are doing. even better if you can follow your friends when they go. and always look in that mirror and ask what, how, and why. use your nerdiness to analyze their actions without asking too many questions.
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Shantel

Quote from: Shantel on December 12, 2013, 11:40:39 AM
Haha this whole thread is funny, which reminds me I'm about to head out to see the hair stylist and see if she can think outside of the box when she looks at my head and instead of thinking (man) perhaps this time she will think (androgyne) maybe even (female). Meanwhile while I wait I'll catch up on "How to get a man to bone you" in Cosmo.  :D

I scored, she gets me and finally we're on the same page! I had emailed her a photo of myself with a lot of cleavage showing, she's not known about that because I don't flaunt that in public, and I added the definition of androgyny. She went on and on about how she suddenly had this lightbulb moment in her brain and do I like to go dancing at a certain gay bar the she likes in Seattle, bla, blah! Got a wonderful trim and a hug, and she got a tip, we're moving in the right direction finally.  :)
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Carrie Liz

If you ask me, musicofthenight, this kind of ignorance knows no gender. It's a product of our consumer culture. We grow up not being taught how to do ANYTHING for ourselves anymore. We're just kind of expected to pay to have someone else do it for us.

This is why people go to school and yet are still dumb... because they're not going to school to learn anymore, they're going there to get the grades and get the degree so that they can get a job. In school, we're not taught to love learning anymore, we're taught to get a good score on that test so that the school can get money from the government and so that you can move up to the next grade. It's never about learning anymore, it's always just about "success," which basically means just getting by.

Lots of people have seen this. My mom especially, who is a college professor, cannot believe how unmotivated her undergrads are nowadays. They always want study sheets for tests, they always b**** and whine when they get less than an A even when they very clearly did not know what they were talking about, just because "I'm an A student." So many of them have no interest whatsoever in the material, and their papers are nothing but three pages of BS trying to meet the minimum length requirement. They're just there to get their grades. This generation of college students is just extremely entitled. They believe that the world owes them everything, and that they shouldn't have to work too hard to get it. And although they're technically book-smart, they tend to be practicality-dumb. They know how to do things, but don't understand HOW to do them or WHY they should do them. And it's the same thing with practical life skills, things as basic as cooking and repairing simple little electronic things. We're never taught to cook, because we've been groomed to grow up on fast food and processed meals. We never fix our own things anymore, because now we can just take things into the shop and have someone else fix it for us. There's always someone else to do it for us, so there's no need to learn it ourselves. Same deal with schooling. Again, we don't have to actually learn to think anymore, we just have to learn to get test questions right. And so we've become stupid, and lost our need to actually learn things. At the beginning of the life of these services, they were convenience things, just for those occasions where you needed something fixed quickly and didn't have the time to do it yourself. Where now, we've lost the ability to do things ourselves, and thus the vast majority of people are dependent on these professional services to do everything for them.

It's a product of our culture. Because we don't have to do anything for ourselves anymore, we forget how to. And it's a self-fulfilling prophecy, because we live in a consumer culture where companies actually make more money when we're basically stupid consumers who can't do a damned thing for ourselves. Go figure.

Same thing with the "Stupid Girls" video. It's because of a lifetime of being told what we're supposed to want. So much so that we never stop to think whether those ideals really make any sense or not, we just sort of go with it. And over time, it becomes such an ingrained expectation that people hate themselves because they can't achieve it, despite the overwhelming reality that says that it's an impossible standard. But it works. Because since it's pretty much impossible to do it alone, you become dependent on cosmetics, on surgeries, and your status becomes based on how much you own. It's all bull. And yes, it makes me pretty sick too. And it goes both ways. Both when girls act like valley-girls who are image-obsessed, entitled, and don't know how to do a thing for themselves, as well as men who are total dudebros who can't talk about anything but sports, TV, which "chicks are hot," making sexist jokes about women who aren't pretty enough, and basically reinforcing the ideals of this stupid male-dominated culture that makes women feel so inadequate in the first place. In both cases, no thank you.

And don't worry about "do I even have the right to say this?" YES, of course you do. Everyone has the right to speak up, and any societal standard telling you who does and does not have the right to be heard is equally as stupid as the ones telling us what we are and aren't supposed to like.

/rant over... (I've always been a bit more in the middle, hating both genders' stereotypes, so it really bothers me too.)
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Shantel

I knew that I really liked you CarrieLiz, now I know why, well spoken girlfriend!
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VeronicaLynn

Quote from: Taka on December 19, 2013, 04:58:39 AM
that's not true. i always tell the hairdresser exactly how i want them to cut my hair, and they do it that way. i have never failed to get the result i wanted, and one really pro hairdresser even completely restyled my hair in only 15 minutes (had to do it fast, for i had to catch a bus). it was nearly the complete opposite of her own hairstyle.

best way to learn about hairstyles is to go to a salon and watch what the hairdressers are doing. even better if you can follow your friends when they go. and always look in that mirror and ask what, how, and why. use your nerdiness to analyze their actions without asking too many questions.

It's true in my experience, which is why I don't hang out in salons that much and usually just cut my hair myself. I guess my run comment is mainly towards those that have bad hairstyles themselves, there are quite a few hairdressers that have bad hairstyles themselves.

My main issue with hairdressers is because I'm a "guy" they've given me a standard short guy cut, even if I go in there with chin length hair and say I just want a trim, 1" off all the way around. It starts off OK but then they ask about the ears, and I apparently say the wrong thing...if you say around the ears they cut it all short to match, and if you say over the ears they cut it all short, but slightly longer to match.
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