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Started by Joanna Dark, January 16, 2014, 01:14:49 AM

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Joanna Dark

I'm legally male with a male name that isn't andro. Add a y and it's a girls name but otherwise, male. Tomorrow, I have a job interview as a blogger about real estate for this realty company. I tried on my guy clothes (an dark blue argyle sweater and 30x30 gray slack). Then i trimmed the back of my three month old pixie. Didn't touch the front. My BF took one look at me and said "you look like a chick." Now while validating, since my bf is brutally honest and doesn't BS. He said I need to tell them something because since I can't hide your boobs it's just not going to work. I need this job.

deja vu, right? What do I do. I think trimming my hair made me even more femme because now it isn't the least bit messy. (think demi moore in ghost.) Do I dress as a girl? The interviewer is a russian woman, judging by her russian name. It's a freelance gig and I only have to attend one meeting a month.

EDIT: I know this sounds braggy and bitchy but these problems are very real. I dont know what to do. I did get a job as an online tutor so things are looking up but if i get this in two years I can have surgery! For me, that is so improtant and the last step on my journey to normal-dom.

I don't even know when this happened ... i do lovelovelove it.
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Bardoux

You could try binding? If it's one meeting a month, should be doable. Also try growing out facial hair and having a haircut which shows a more male hairline.

oh hai!

Thats tough. As freelance you don't have a lot of the same protections as regular employees. I know from the pictures you ave posted you certainly don't look male; between the dude-over and working with your voice can you fake it even? The other thing is will this job potentially lead to full time, permanent employment? That might make it tougher to keep presenting male over the long haul (doubtful you would want to anyways.)
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Ms Grace

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Transition 1.0 (Julie): HRT 1989-91
Self-denial: 1991-2013
Transition 2.0 (Grace): HRT June 24 2013
Full-time: March 24, 2014 :D
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Joanna Dark

Thanks for the replies.

Well I pluck my facial hair so it's barely there now. MY breasts aren't bindable without significant pain. But, yes, I could buzz my head and I'd probably get away with it, lke I'm committing a crime lol but maybe not. Plus, then i'd have to buzz my hair.

It wont lead to a full-time job I think it's strictly a freelance gig. And i don't have a jacket; I thought the sweater and slacks combo would dude me up. I just look like a fool wearing clothes way way too big. And their the smallest men's clothes I can get. I'm just a small person but HRT has really melted things away.

I didn't really think I ws passing until now. I thought people were being polite. But my BF has been much more sexual, called me too pretty the other day for/in this bad neighborhood and that I didn't belong, and everyone refers to me as his GF or as female without delay. Excpet for bums. Like I just figured sine I couldnt pass to them that well I must not be passing.

But now that I trimmed my pixie (which you are supposed to do to the back every two months until the front hits the jaw), it somehow cleaned me up and I look more femme than before cause of it.

I'm rambling. Oh the worst: in two hours I have an unemployment appeal hearing with my old job that fired me for being trans on October 23. They lied a bunch of times and finally settled that I was committed willful misconduct. At first, it was all "its not personal it just didn't work out you tried hard and were so enthusiastic" to "I didn't try to know I walked out and quite and did something wrong.

I actually want to wear a dress to that just for kicks. And to get them to say something stupid so I can sue. IDK, maybe i'll use it as a litmus test but I'm pretty sure this job will notice I look like a woman, breasts or not. The only solution is to buzz my hair but oh gawd it's taken a year to get here. The other thing is maybe if I frowned or scowled I'd look male but smiling somehow brings out my cheeks and my face turns totally female. I mean I really look pretty. I love that but I never expected it and now I am freaking. But I guess this is why my mom and family stopped answering my texts and stared at me all Christmas.

I know some peeps read this and think oh so first world these problems are. But I am really poor. So poor I eat at soup kitchnes, get free clothes, and am on the dole. This would help me and my BF so much. We'd get out of this hole. And he's done a lot for me and I want to make him happy by finally contributing again. I just feeel like they are execting a man and then I show up. I showed mi ID to a bank teller yesterday and he was like "oh, hmm, interesting." I assume he thought I was female.

Stupid first name. I was going to apply under my female name but my writing samples all say male name so yeah. It is in a progresive part of the city and this is philly, capital of sex change surgery. ugh

Now I'm thinking of wearing this light blue woman's sweater and a pair of skinnies. But not too skinny but still womanly. The sweater looks like the one the blonde girl wore in Friday the 13th part one the girl who chopped off the mother's head. That sweater.

it wouldn't look unlike this: http://oandbmagazine.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/croppedsweater.png%3Fw%3D640

See no boobs just a pretty face. I thought I'd be fine until laser and Im wrong and I think I just have to tell them listen I'm trans. I can't see them not noticing. If I had a camera I'd take a pic.
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oh hai!

All the luck in the world to you, however you present at both meetings.
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Joanna Dark

Quote from: oh hai! on January 16, 2014, 07:52:28 AM
All the luck in the world to you, however you present at both meetings.

Thanks. I think this happened a couple weeks ago we my testes vanished. Now it's just a sac of nothing. And I've been using Retin-A. On the good side, my face is all symetrical and I've always wanted that.
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tgchar21

Quote from: oh hai! on January 16, 2014, 04:44:52 AMAs freelance you don't have a lot of the same protections as regular employees.

On the other hand freelancers aren't usually subject to the kinds of background/credit checks that may out them like regular employees are (unless the job is of a "sensitive" nature like handling government information). I know this isn't much of a help in your case (since the following points don't apply in your case), but for those who've legally changed their name (you have to give your legal name and SSN or EIN for tax purposes), pass satisfactorily, and don't need to out themselves to show their portfolio or work history, being a freelancer can prevent your TS history from being an issue to begin with. (For this reason career advisors for ex-prisoners often recommend freelancing as an option as it minimizes their felony history from being an issue.)
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Carlita

Quote from: tgchar21 on January 16, 2014, 08:56:57 AM
On the other hand freelancers aren't usually subject to the kinds of background checks that may out them like regular employees are (unless the job is of a "sensitive" nature like handling government information). I know this isn't much of a help in your case (since the following points don't apply in your case), but for those who've legally changed their name (you have to give your legal name and SSN or EIN for tax purposes), pass satisfactorily, and don't need to out themselves to show their portfolio or work history, being a freelancer can prevent your TS history from being an issue to begin with. (For this reason career advisors for ex-prisoners often recommend freelancing as an option as it minimizes their felony history from being an issue.)

This is a very good point. I work entirely as a freelance and no one has ever asked to see any kind of formal ID. Can't you just go as Joanna? For me, the only thing I'd worry about was passing. But from what you say, you pass better as a girl than a guy, so that's the way you should go. Plus, it's the way you want to be, and you don't want to have to limit, slow or restrict your transition, just to keep your boss thinking you're a guy.

If you're blogging, it's not as if you have to be out there representing the company in the outside world. So it shouldn't matter to them what sex you are. So I say: be Joanna!
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stephaniec

Quote from: Carlita on January 16, 2014, 09:21:43 AM
This is a very good point. I work entirely as a freelance and no one has ever asked to see any kind of formal ID. Can't you just go as Joanna? For me, the only thing I'd worry about was passing. But from what you say, you pass better as a girl than a guy, so that's the way you should go. Plus, it's the way you want to be, and you don't want to have to limit, slow or restrict your transition, just to keep your boss thinking you're a guy.

If you're blogging, it's not as if you have to be out there representing the company in the outside world. So it shouldn't matter to them what sex you are. So I say: be Joanna!
I agree, your blogging why would there be any concern on their part.
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