http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/15/keith-ablow-transgender-california-law-fox-news_n_4604269.html?utm_hp_ref=gay-voices&ir=Gay%20Voices
Huffington Post; Catherine Taibi

Fox News' trusty doctor, Keith Ablow, [. . . is] saying that the whole idea of being transgender might be a myth.

Ablow wrote a column on Fox News' website Tuesday in which he claimed that giving children the freedom to make gender decisions is "destructive" and "toxic."

But what's more is that Ablow said that he believes the idea of being transgender may not actually exist, [. . .]

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The page above provides a link to his column, which I won't put the link to here.

I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV...

Oh well, I had a doctor once who told me I didn't have diverticulitis, but had high blood pressure and diabetes.  Wrong on all three counts, and he damned near killed me with blood sugar meds.

Just because you have an M.D., it does not make you an expert on all things medical.  This is why we have specialists. 

Quote from: Jill F on January 15, 2014, 05:13:09 PM
I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV...

Oh well, I had a doctor once who told me I didn't have diverticulitis, but had high blood pressure and diabetes.  Wrong on all three counts, and he damned near killed me with blood sugar meds.

Just because you have an M.D., it does not make you an expert on all things medical.  This is why we have specialists.

True. Our local batch of quacks told my mom that she had a staph infection. She went out of town to get a second opinion and they found out what she had wasn't anything close to being a staph infection. Some docs are simply dumber than dirt.

The man is clearly suffering from an acute case of crackpot. Page the ceramicist, stat!

The sad and... scary thing is how many people eat this crap up.
If I had to say I hated anything.. It'd be fox news.... with a passion.

Quote from: Sarah Rose on January 15, 2014, 06:47:00 PM
The sad and... scary thing is how many people eat this crap up.

Only because those people choose to live in willful ignorance.

Quote from: Laura Squirrel on January 15, 2014, 07:17:33 PM
Only because those people choose to live in willful ignorance.

Whutz ingnurnt?

I'm so glad to know now that there's no such thing as transgender or gender dysphoria and I can just go back to being drunk and miserable.

Didn't the APA give this quack the boot once upon a time?

Quote from: Jill F on January 15, 2014, 05:13:09 PM
I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV...

Oh well, I had a doctor once who told me I didn't have diverticulitis, but had high blood pressure and diabetes.  Wrong on all three counts, and he damned near killed me with blood sugar meds.

Just because you have an M.D., it does not make you an expert on all things medical.  This is why we have specialists.

Your absolutely right about that, Jill. Don't forget that Ablow is nothing more than a shill for the advertisers and he's geting paid pretty well.

I had two questions for Ablow

1) Has spent anytime with transgender people for a day or so seeing the things that they face?

2) Even he does find that he was wrong in his assessment, is he willing to change his own views and beliefs?

The second one is hard for people who are married with a particular belief system. It's more a matter of pride and ego because they hate to admit that they are wrong.

Quote from: Jill F on January 15, 2014, 07:22:22 PMDidn't the APA give this quack the boot once upon a time?

No, but the next best thing.  They censured him for his anti-gay positions which are in direct contrast to APA positions on that.  He later resigned, saying it was because he had strong disagreements with the DSM-5.

Quote from: gennee on January 15, 2014, 08:02:26 PM
I had two questions for Ablow

The second one is hard for people who are married with a particular belief system. It's more a matter of pride and ego because they hate to admit that they are wrong.

This is why I don't subscribe to either the far left or right.   Both extremes seem to see things in black and white and won't ever admit they're wrong, even when all of the evidence points in that direction.  I see things in technicolor, appreciate all nuances and carefully weigh all available evidence before I begin to draw a conclusion.  I don't understand people who allow others do all the hard thinking for them. 

The people that eat this kind of thing up are the people that already agreed with it, so in that sense maybe it isn't doing that much damage?

Oh, transgender doesn't exist? Thanks Dr. Ablow, I feel all better, back to girlhood for me!

All sarcasm aside, I've never met a medical professional who actually has worked with trans people before that thinks transsexualism isn't real. I've had so many nurses, psychiatrists, and GPs say that after working with the trans community they felt compelled to act on our behalf because they see what our lives really involve.

What people aren't seeing is that he has stated opinion, not fact. He is welcome to his beliefs, until it interferes with my life.

That's right. I don't believe that willfully stupid and ignorant dunderheads exist...and yet there one is, writing for Fox.


Wait, did I say just one??

Let's see if he believes in self proctoscopy!!! 

Quote from: Vicky on January 16, 2014, 11:18:52 PM
Let's see if he believes in self proctoscopy!!!

There was a certain hand signal used as a safety warning by a superior on the flight deck of an aircraft carrier I learned in the Navy.  It consists of a right fist in a semi closed left hand with the outward motion of the right fist.  It means get your head out of it!  Like I said before: "Ablow at it again".

  Joelene

Hi friends 

It is obvious that many of us are not particularly fond of Fox News and Keith Ablow, but let's keep the conversation civil and be sure to keep in mind the site rules when posting

Particularly rules 10 & 15

Quote10. Bashing or flaming of any individuals or groups is not acceptable behavior on this web site and will not be tolerated in the slightest for any reason.  This includes but is not limited to:
Advocating the separation or exclusion of one or more group from under the Transgender umbrella term
Suggesting or claiming that one segment or sub-segment of our community is more legitimate, deserving, or more real than any others

Quote15. Items under discussion shall be confined to the subject matter at hand, members shall avoid taking the other users posts personally, and/or posting anything that can reasonably be construed as a personal attack.

Thank you

V M

Ablow, though wrong-headed, expresses a medical opinion that was, until recently, "mainstream" among psychiatrists, including those at Johns Hopkins.

Dr Ablow is a psychiatrist who trained at Johns Hopkins  From his webiste:

Keith Ablow, MD is one of America's leading psychiatrists. He is a graduate of Brown University and the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine.

Johns Hopkins, as many of us are aware, was an early proponent of SRS, but gave up the practice around 1980 due to the influence of Staff psychiatrists like then-Chief of Psychiatry Paul McHugh.

Born in Lowell, Massachusetts, he is the son of a high school teacher and a housewife. "McHugh describes himself as religiously orthodox, politically liberal (he is a Democrat) and culturally conservative -- a believer in marriage and the Marines, a supporter of institutions and family values."

There are a generation of JH-trained psychiatrists who hold to these outdated ideas.

Educate them, don't just call them names.

Quote from: Jen on January 16, 2014, 01:23:43 PM
The people that eat this kind of thing up are the people that already agreed with it, so in that sense maybe it isn't doing that much damage?

His preaching to his own choir.