Quote from: Oriah on February 03, 2014, 10:04:42 AM
I say it is.  I've heard tons of anti-trans arguments "it's against nature" "it's against god" "you're just confused" "you'll never be a REAL woman" et cetera, ad nauseum.

Sure it's irritating, but it's kind of whatever.  Where I live freedom of speech is (theoretically) protected.....  and that's a right I firmly believe in and wish to see upheld across the board, even if that speech is being used against me.

Oh I definitely think it should be LEGAL for them to be transphobic.  I just don't think it's okay.  I don't think right and wrong should be dictated by the government  as long as you are not taking away someone's basic human rights is all.

Quote from: Jill F on February 03, 2014, 01:10:27 AM
Did that need to be asked around here?  Shameless.

I totally agree. Hell NO, it's not 'ok' to be transphobic.   
WHY WOULD ANYONE ASK THAT QUESTION HERE???   

I suppose it depends on one's definition of 'transphobic'. Just like the term 'racist', everyone seems to have a different definition. While we're at it, define 'bashing'. I think most people have differences on the definitions themselves, not whether something specific is wrong or not.

People who are minding their business who aren't harming others should be treated respectfully and fairly. It's not okay to do otherwise.

Quote from: Nikko on February 03, 2014, 11:21:01 AM
I suppose it depends on one's definition of 'transphobic'. Just like the term 'racist', everyone seems to have a different definition.

That doesn't make any sense. Either you are racist, transphobic, etc or you aren't. It's a black and white issue (no pun intended here at all). There are no shades of grey in this argument.

Quote from: Nikko on February 03, 2014, 11:21:01 AM
I suppose it depends on one's definition of 'transphobic'. Just like the term 'racist', everyone seems to have a different definition. While we're at it, define 'bashing'. I think most people have differences on the definitions themselves, not whether something specific is wrong or not.

People who are minding their business who aren't harming others should be treated respectfully and fairly. It's not okay to do otherwise.

That's ridiculous.  It doesn't depend on 'one's definition of 'transphobic'.  It's very very CLEAR...TRANSPHOBIA IS WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. period. no exceptions. no excuses. 
You don't 'get' to make up your own definitions. That's not how this works.

What I stated is simple commonsense.

Quote from: Nikko on February 03, 2014, 11:45:41 AM
What I stated is simple commonsense.

Wrong. your words are the exact opposite of common sense. 

Quote from: JordanBlue on February 03, 2014, 11:51:50 AM
Wrong. your words are the exact opposite of common sense. 

If I found five people and had them give me their meaning of racist or transphobia, I bet they would be different and possibly not consistent.

People often argue because they have different interpretations of something, but they actually agree on the actual reality of something. This is common.

Just take the definition that JordonBlue provided. It requires interpretation. What's negative to one person isn't to another. Just feeling these things is transphobia? Even if they accept and tolerate you? See, I can't see it that way. Therefore, MY definition of transphobia likely differs from yours. Feelings don't make people phobic IMO, behaving poorly due to them would though. I'm sure some folks around here would agree with that?

(okay, that's all I have on this, some folk do love to argue...  )

Metinks that there is some hard core trollin' going on here lol. TBJ, your offensive name, attitude, everything plus a "4" post count leads me to believe you are simply a sockpuppet troll I'm not interested in engaging with. Thats really all I have to say on any of this. I think this thread should be relegated to extinction.

I know this will sound ignorant but is trasphobic a term we just use in our community like Cis or is it recognized term by the rest of the world? Only asking since these terms never seem to come up in psych classes or anywhere else. Could be hard to get it recognized until that point if that's the case     

"Pay no attention to that hatred behind the curtain!"

Transphobia is inappropriate and immoral, whether shared openly or kept quiet. It will impact decision-making and reinforce exclusion and disenfranchisement.

Quote from: Laura Squirrel on February 03, 2014, 11:25:37 AM
That doesn't make any sense. Either you are racist, transphobic, etc or you aren't. It's a black and white issue (no pun intended here at all). There are no shades of grey in this argument.

Quote from: JordanBlue on February 03, 2014, 11:08:07 AM
I totally agree. Hell NO, it's not 'ok' to be transphobic.   
WHY WOULD ANYONE ASK THAT QUESTION HERE???   

Well according to the definitions I have:

QuoteSusans: Transphobia (or less commonly, transprejudice and trans-misogyny, the latter referring to transphobia directed toward trans women) refers to discrimination against transsexuality and transsexual or transgender people, based on the expression of their internal gender identity.

QuoteOxforddictionary: intense dislike of or prejudice against transsexual or transgender people:

And a few others, it says there is a dislike, or discrimination of transgender people, it doesn't say anything about treating them awful. That's what this is about, is it okay to dislike transgender people if you treat them with respect and not bashing them. I never meant for this to become an angry thread...

Okay I hesitate to be more involved in this thread but there is simply no such thing as not acting on the way you feel. A racist who says they aren't acting on it is deluding themselves, sure they might not participate in the Klan or be in a position to discriminate against the employment of others but if they feel that way, even if they try not to act on it, this feeling will shape thier interactions and they will likely attempt to spread thier hate to the next generation.

Just like I said before if it does more harm than good it is wrong, and I challenge anyone to find the good in transphobia. The best I can come up with is bigoted people can have things to agree on, but on the harm side, look at that HR director ignore that candidate who didn't pass well, sure he was nice to her in the interview after all it doesn't count if you don't act on it right?

I think the key part is the prejudice or discrimination aspect that is wrong. Those are a part of the definition.

Quote from: Nikko on February 03, 2014, 12:06:24 PM
If I found five people and had them give me their meaning of racist or transphobia, I bet they would be different and possibly not consistent.
People often argue because they have different interpretations of something, but they actually agree on the actual reality of something. This is common.

The definition of Transphobia is not open to interpretation. It's very simple to understand. Failure to comprehend that Transphobia is wrong is a display of willing ignorance. period.

Quote(okay, that's all I have on this, some folk do love to argue...  )

Like you?  The fact that you would even ask, on this forum, if it's ok to be Transphobic shows your reason for this post, troll.    

Quote from: gowiththeflow on February 03, 2014, 12:46:47 PM
I know this will sound ignorant but is trasphobic a term we just use in our community like Cis or is it recognized term by the rest of the world? Only asking since these terms never seem to come up in psych classes or anywhere else. Could be hard to get it recognized until that point if that's the case   

It's recognized by the rest of the world. Like homophobic, transphobic means a fear or dislike of transgender people.

Come on guys.. lets night fight over this.

Simple answer

No it is not okay and neither is this topic

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Thank you

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