All I said was that feel that lgb and the T should not be grouped tpgether in the nicest way as possible but someone always have to talk about how my body is so I'm still apart of lesbian because some other transguy basically called me or considers me one because I will never be able to change my birth certificate and depending on what state your in you won't be able to I guess this is the type of ->-bleeped-<- that makes me fustrated and want too kill myself

Quote from: Brandon on February 16, 2014, 09:36:46 PM
All I said was that feel that lgb and the T should not be grouped tpgether in the nicest way as possible but someone always have to talk about how my body is so I'm still apart of lesbian because some other transguy basically called me or considers me one because I will never be able to change my birth certificate and depending on what state your in you won't be able to I guess this is the type of ->-bleeped-<- that makes me fustrated and want too kill myself

Why can't you move when you're old enough?

Brandon, "The times, they are a-changing"

You are young.  I smile while I look at the progress made over my lifetime, particularly in the oast few years.  Be patient.  You have a lot to live for.

Quote from: Declan. on February 16, 2014, 09:42:28 PM
Why can't you move when you're old enough?

I can but he said it has to be where your born or else you can't change it. i didn't plan on staying in the state I'm in.

Quote from: Jamie de la Rosa on February 16, 2014, 09:43:23 PM
Brandon, "The times, they are a-changing"

You are young.  I smile while I look at the progress made over my lifetime, particularly in the oast few years.  Be patient.  You have a lot to live for.

I'm starting to feel like I have nothing to live for, This depression is eating away and that can kill you.

You can get married in any state of the union that allows same sex marriages if you can not change your birth certificate (i am gussing you are talking F. F).. What state was you born in that will not change your BC?

Isabell

Quote from: mind is quiet now on February 16, 2014, 09:54:13 PM
You can get married in any state of the union that allows same sex marriages if you can not change your birth certificate (i am gussing you are talking F. F.. What state was you born in that will not change your BC?

Isabell

Yea but I wanna be put down as her husband not wife thats why I don't like that 'm not a girl and I'm sure if I got with a heterosexual woman she wouldn't like that either. And he says he was from ohio and they don't allow that but 'm from Michigan

It looks like Michigan lets you change your birth certificate anyway:
http://www.michigan.gov/documents/mdch/BIRTH_Doc_Req_Change_344888_7.pdf

Quote from: Brandon on February 16, 2014, 09:56:55 PM

Yea but I wanna be put down as her husband not wife thats why I don't like that 'm not a girl and I'm sure if I got with a heterosexual woman she wouldn't like that either. And he says he was from ohio and they don't allow that but 'm from Michigan

You can change your birth certificate in Michigan.

Here is a website that can help. http://www.transgendermichigan.org/questions/birth.html

I was married in delaware but i was still pre and so was my husband. I was the groom, he was the bride. Did not matter to us it is only a piece of paper. Our vowes where as who we are not where.

Hope that helps some

Quote from: Brandon on February 16, 2014, 09:47:37 PM

I'm starting to feel like I have nothing to live for, This depression is eating away and that can kill you.

I'd rather not be killed, if you don't mind. 

Come on over to this topic, Reply #84.

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,158935.new.html#new

Quote from: mind is quiet now on February 16, 2014, 10:03:34 PM
You can change your birth certificate in Michigan.

Here is a website that can help. http://www.transgendermichigan.org/questions/birth.html

I was married in delaware but i was still pre and so was my husband. I was the groom, he was the spouse. Did not matter to us it is only a piece of paper. Our vowes where as who we are not where.

Hope that helps some
Isabell

I mean yea but its like to lesbians or to gays nothing against I accept them an they deserve to be happy but as Ive I'm a man. And I didn't realize that but he said I had to have all surgeries though but I have heard otherwise

Quote from: Brandon on February 16, 2014, 10:07:56 PM

I mean yea but its like to lesbians or to gays nothing against I accept them an they deserve to be happy but as Ive I'm a man. And I didn't realize that but he said I had to have all surgeries though but I have heard otherwise

Nowhere in this part of the statute are the words "genital" or "successfully" or "completed" used. They are not part of the requirement. Period.

I also hope that you'll provide explicit advice with respect to the Affidavit, advising people that they should not provide any additional details with regard to type or extent of surgery.  They should provide the information asked for in the Affidavit, and nothing more.  In addition, they should be advised that the certification can be done by any physician with direct medical knowledge of their case, and does not need to be done by the surgeon who performed surgery.


Warm regards,

Andre Wilson

Senior Associate, Jamison Green & Associates
734 657-8818 cell
Andre.Wilson.Consulting@gmail.com

Quote from: mind is quiet now on February 16, 2014, 10:11:08 PM
Nowhere in this part of the statute are the words "genital" or "successfully" or "completed" used. They are not part of the requirement. Period.

I also hope that you'll provide explicit advice with respect to the Affidavit, advising people that they should not provide any additional details with regard to type or extent of surgery.  They should provide the information asked for in the Affidavit, and nothing more.  In addition, they should be advised that the certification can be done by any physician with direct medical knowledge of their case, and does not need to be done by the surgeon who performed surgery.

Wow I did not know that, Maybe he just did that to fustrate me.

Quote from: Brandon on February 16, 2014, 10:22:31 PM

Wow I did not know that, Maybe he just did that to fustrate me.

Yes, it seems like you have friends and familiy members who like to bait you.  Don't let them get to you.

Why listen to people that don't know what they are talking about? I -do- think full transition matters, and legal clean up is just part of that. Can't really isn't part of my vocabulary, if I was in one of the few states that are obstinate about updates I would pursue an exception  anyhow.

Quote from: Brett on February 16, 2014, 10:59:08 PM
Yes, it seems like you have friends and familiy members who like to bait you.  Don't let them get to you.

Not to mention a friend in "high places" who will provide info. I'm guessing the Associate is from that is THE Jamison Green and Associates.

--Jay

you can change your birth certificate in Michigan and I believe Michigan is coming close to allowing same sex marriages (my girl is from Michigan (the flint area), I was there last month) anyway, I know its hard when your from a state that isn't will say "gay friendly", but you can always move to a more liberal state. Far as surgeries go, I think it depends on the state, I think most its only top surgery that is necessary to change your birth certificate. Social Security and Drivers license, I think you just need a doctor or therapist to sign off that you are transitioning.

I take it you are not in the Uk, when all you have to do is live as a man or woman for two years and then you can change it.

Quote from: Ryan55 on February 17, 2014, 08:22:56 AM
you can change your birth certificate in Michigan and I believe Michigan is coming close to allowing same sex marriages (my girl is from Michigan (the flint area), I was there last month) anyway, I know its hard when your from a state that isn't will say "gay friendly", but you can always move to a more liberal state. Far as surgeries go, I think it depends on the state, I think most its only top surgery that is necessary to change your birth certificate. Social Security and Drivers license, I think you just need a doctor or therapist to sign off that you are transitioning.

The only problem I have with that statement is that just because someone is not gay friendly doesn't mean that there automatically not gonna be so friendly to trans people and vice versa and I don't wanna be seen as the same sex I am a man, But I didn't plan on living here foreve in the mitten forever anyways. But they said you have to do it were your from.

Quote from: Ryan55 on February 17, 2014, 08:22:56 AM
Far as surgeries go, I think it depends on the state, I think most its only top surgery that is necessary to change your birth certificate. Social Security and Drivers license, I think you just need a doctor or therapist to sign off that you are transitioning.

Hysto can also suffice if the letter is worded correctly.  As far as Social Security you just need a doctors letter.  Drivers license depends on the state.  My state requires surgery for me to change my drivers license to male.