Okay so many of those questions needed more choices.  And I could easily tell how my score was going to be affected by choosing 1, 2, 3, or 4.  So that alone might have biased my answers.  And I kind of wish I could be the kind of person that constantly answered with the last response!  That must be fun ... my favorite response was "gender is what happens to me when I get dressed in the morning."

Anywho, I was officially a Gender Outlaw, but my score was 100 ... one less than the next one up, which I honestly felt I identified with much more.  Oh well.  Making mountains out of molehills.

102, gender novice... although maybe I didn't quite get the point, because I'm still not certain what that inventory was testing. Anyone care to enlighten me?

Rafe

Stephanie:
I agree with you it was easy to see throught the questions but in that final analysys there was only one question that was the closest to my ideals answer, which is the way to herd responses into categories. Some of the questions were clever and actually learned from them. I think this what is called "The Hawthorne Syndrome" when the question biases the response because the asking the question makes the interviewed person aware of an issue and self corrrects herself sort of the Miller effect in electronics ... it was fun  ... I love this little distractions.
love, sheila

 118, Gender Novice
Gee, it's like you have one hand in respectability and the other hand someplace where both of you like it. You're not always taken for 'normal', are you? In fact, you probably get an infrequent but regualar bout of the gender willies from time to time, don't you? And a lot of this gender stuff is probably kinda new to you ... a little scary and a little thrilling, right? Maybe it's time to explore exactily what scares you. Go on ... you know how to be gentle with yourself.


Lynnn

Gender Novice

Quote from: Rafe on July 18, 2006, 12:55:11 PMI'm still not certain what that inventory was testing. Anyone care to enlighten me?

Well, having read the book the message I got from it was basically, throw away all your ideas about gender and what you should be and just be yourself. I didn't quite see the need personally to take it to quite the extreme that Bornstein does - but I think the test has something to do with how attached we are to the traditional gender binary.

Quote from: umop ap!sdn on July 19, 2006, 11:31:21 PM
Well, having read the book the message I got from it was basically, throw away all your ideas about gender and what you should be and just be yourself. I didn't quite see the need personally to take it to quite the extreme that Bornstein does - but I think the test has something to do with how attached we are to the traditional gender binary.

Hi Julie:

Yeah..I think you're right.  Kate Bornstein has said many times (including in her book gender outlaw) that she may not be female after all but a combination of both genders or a totally different gender...okaaay.... whatever burts your bubbles
Ms. Kate

ta ta,


tinkerbell

P.S.   I took this stupid test again and I got a 89 = outlaw....hmmm...the last time I took it I was a well gendered woman.  what happened?  oh no..I've been demoted to outlaw...blaaaahh!

Posted on: July 19, 2006, 11:47:38 PM

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Well, it has been more than one year since I started this thread.  I just wanted to know if some of us are getting the same results.  Not that it matters at this stage of the game, but just for fun.... 


tink


P.S.  I will probably take it tomorrow, I have no energy to deal with Bornstein tonight. 

Wolfie:  Auntie Tink misses you.  You were really cute! 
Sheila18:  I miss your sense of humor.
Rana:  I hope you have found the peace of mind you needed hon.  I also miss your reviews on my poetry thread. 
Spike: I hope you are doing well hon.

57, gender freak. Like others have said, though, some of the questions were a bit odd, so who knows. It was fun, anyway.

  Nfr

77

QuoteGender Outlaw
Honey, you're too far gone to make the climb back up to 'real' man or 'real' woman, working not only on your own gender, but the subject of gender itself for quite some time, huh? I'm willing to bet things are still a bit scary and a bit serious for you in your life. Your next step would be to let yourself explore some of the place that really thrill you, no matter the social taboos. Just be kind and compassionate when you are doing it.

I took this some time ago and I can see where my answers have changed.



Posted on: August 11, 2007, 11:38:22 AM

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Quote from: Tink on August 11, 2007, 02:07:19 AM
P.S.   I took this stupid test again and I got a 89 = outlaw....hmmm...the last time I took it I was a well gendered woman.  what happened?  oh no..I've been demoted to outlaw...blaaaahh!

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P.S.  I will probably take it tomorrow, I have no energy to deal with Bornstein tonight. 

Tink,

   "To live outside the law, you must be honest" - B. Dylan

   Maybe we are changing your perceptions.  Many people are turning up here claiming to be both or neither gender.  You'll always be a woman, but maybe we are affecting your perceptions concerning possibilities.   

I couldn't relate to any of it.....I missed out many of the questions because all the standard listed answers were nonsense........are there any proper gender based tests on line?

Who's Kate Bornstein anyway, an American comedian? or just another crackpot writer?

51, hmmmm, my score is the same as my age LOL. Gender Freak, before taking the quiz I thought I was merely a gender outlaw, guess I can apply for the fringe benefits. Hope they include chocolate

Zythyra

I scored a 112

QuoteWho's Kate Bornstein anyway, an American comedian? or just another crackpot writer?

Kate http://www.katebornstein.com/KatePages/kate_bornstein.htm is an author, performance artist, playright... zie's book, Gender Outlaw, was inspirational to me when I first transitioned.

Zythyra

Quote from: Kiera on August 11, 2007, 12:55:54 PM

QuoteYou have a range of possible scores from zero to 255, and if you haven't guessed it by now, when it comes to your Gender Aptitude (GA), smaller is better.

Do I have to read the book to understand WHY a smaller score is better?

107 Gender Novice (stuck square in the middle borderline with Outlaw?)
Gee, it's like you have one hand in respectability and the other hand someplace where both of you like it. You're not always taken for 'normal', are you? In fact, you probably get an infrequent but regular bout of the gender willies from time to time, don't you? And a lot of this gender stuff is probably kinda new to you ... a little scary and a little thrilling, right? Maybe it's time to explore exactly what scares you. Go on ... you know how to be gentle with yourself. 

Humm. Does this mean I'm "changing" or stupid?

Hi Kiera,

    I don't know what it means either.  I would put you down as changing.  I think the more we associate here, the less 'restrictive' we become in general.
    Just a thought.


Rebis

Quote from: Berliegh on August 11, 2007, 01:00:12 PM

Who's Kate Bornstein anyway, an American comedian? or just another crackpot writer?

LOL    She could be both actually!  >  She is a post-op transsexual woman and a writer.  IMO her views regarding transsexuality are a bit odd for my taste, but she does make some excellent points in her book Gender Outlaw.

tink

I forgot to say that when I first took the quiz, I was gender novice.  I am now a gender outlaw.

There is hope you the rest of you too   


I can't change my vote, though.

hmm, this test is crud, half the answers i didnt want to give. and it gave no answer that i found suitable. most of it assumed either you were a non trans member of one sex, a bat->-bleeped-<- crazy ->-bleeped-<-, a gender bender, or somewhere near androgyne. i felt it was limiting and confuseing.


R

Hey Tink,

Thanks for revisiting this - since I wasn't on the board when you originally posted. Was a fun test... kind of wacky, but informative in the end.

BTW... Novice here - 104.

LGF

Quote from: Kate on June 29, 2006, 11:07:34 PM
85: Gender Outlaw
Honey, you're too far gone to make the climb back up to 'real' man or 'real' woman, working not only on your own gender, but the subject of gender itself for quite some time, huh? I'm willing to bet things are still a bit scary and a bit serious for you in your life. Your next step would be to let yourself explore some of the place that really thrill you, no matter the social taboos. Just be kind and compassionate when you are doing it.

BUT!!! Her use of the word "gender" seriously confuses me, so many questions confused me as well...

i got a 92 - im the same, a lot of her phrasing REALLY confused me too

i found sometimes i couldnt answer any of the options - and some were just ridiculous

Quote from: Rachael on August 12, 2007, 02:14:22 AM
hmm, this test is crud, half the answers i didnt want to give. and it gave no answer that i found suitable. most of it assumed either you were a non trans member of one sex, a bat->-bleeped-<- crazy ->-bleeped-<-, a gender bender, or somewhere near androgyne. i felt it was limiting and confuseing.


R

I totally agree Rachael...