Quote from: Marina mtf on March 02, 2014, 08:32:24 AM
You are at the edge of the cliff, like the fool in the Tarot, you are too afraid to jump, because
you may get hurt in the passing... but if you don't do the first step, you will forever stay at square zero...

It's interesting how our transitions are reflected in the Tarot. After the Fool comes the Magician, another powerful card and the next step in the transition...

Quote from: learningtolive on March 02, 2014, 07:16:08 AM
I felt a little silly this morning, so I took so pictures.  I'm not wearing any makeup, look a mess, and still am in boy clothes, but I sort of felt cute.  Guess, I'm growing some confidence.  However, I still don't feel like I come close to passing and need a lot of work done.  What do you think?

Again, take it easy on me because I'm still a work in progress and it terrifies me to share my images, but do let me know if I have the potential to pass. I just don't feel like I'm there yet, but other people are telling me that I pass.   

Yes you do and you have a darling basic female face and oddly look a lot like I envisioned you just from your postings.

I'm being honest when I say I can't see it myself, so don't spare my feelings if I don't pass.  I just keep seeing a boy even though I keep improving in my looks and do appear more female than I once did.  Sorry for being a big pain, I'm really not tryng to be that.

Quote from: Marina mtf on March 02, 2014, 08:32:24 AM
confidence is the key,  but also a bit of experimenting.

You are at the edge of the cliff, like the fool in the Tarot, you are too afraid to jump, because
you may get hurt in the passing... but if you don't do the first step, you will forever stay at square zero...

not so much interesting 

I understand that I'll need to take a leap of faith a some point,  but right now I'm just trying to see what everyone else sees.  I legitimately have no idea whether I pass or not.  I keep getting told that I do by almost everyone and no one is saying that I don't or can't, but yet I can't see it myself.  I honestly don't feel like I'm passing.  Eventually, I will have to take the plunge and just go out and deal with it.  As of right now, I really want to know if I do pass or if people still see a boy.  If it's a self image problem, I really wish I knew how to get over it and am trying really really hard to do so.  Yeah, makeup and clothing helps a lot, but I do want my natural appearance to look female and not boyish anymore.

Quote from: learningtolive on March 02, 2014, 07:16:08 AM
I felt a little silly this morning, so I took so pictures.  I'm not wearing any makeup, look a mess, and still am in boy clothes, but I sort of felt cute.  Guess, I'm growing some confidence.  However, I still don't feel like I come close to passing and need a lot of work done.  What do you think?

Again, take it easy on me because I'm still a work in progress and it terrifies me to share my images, but do let me know if I have the potential to pass. I just don't feel like I'm there yet, but other people are telling me that I pass.   

     

Uhummmm, yea, I agree with my sisters here. You easily pass. But I know how you feel. I also know how it is to have everyone around you telling you you pass, but you yourself aren't seeing what they're seeing. I'm going through the same thing. You pass fine. Now a change to more feminine clothes would help but you pass, definately!

Quote from: Allyda on March 02, 2014, 10:13:08 AM
Uhummmm, yea, I agree with my sisters here. You easily pass. But I know how you feel. I also know how it is to have everyone around you telling you you pass, but you yourself aren't seeing what they're seeing. I'm going through the same thing. You pass fine. Now a change to more feminine clothes would help but you pass, definately!

Thank you to you and everyone else that has responded. 

I want to apologize if there appears any unappreciative behavior on my part.  All of you are wonderfully nice and honest people.  I'm just frustrated beyond belief that I can't see what everyone else does.  I'm confused because it doesn't add up.   However, I am very glad to have everyone's feedback and it's nice to know that I do pass.  I just don't know why I can't see it and it makes no sense. 

Quote from: learningtolive on March 02, 2014, 07:16:08 AM
I felt a little silly this morning, so I took so pictures.  I'm not wearing any makeup, look a mess, and still am in boy clothes, but I sort of felt cute.  Guess, I'm growing some confidence.  However, I still don't feel like I come close to passing and need a lot of work done.  What do you think?

Again, take it easy on me because I'm still a work in progress and it terrifies me to share my images, but do let me know if I have the potential to pass. I just don't feel like I'm there yet, but other people are telling me that I pass.   

learningtolive,

I think a merit is that you have a fair face. But the fair face can reveal any trace of grey beard area. Also clothes are important, and you may need a nice feminine top. Wearing some eyeliner and mascara would be great.

barbie~~

Quote from: learningtolive on March 02, 2014, 10:20:33 AM
Thank you to you and everyone else that has responded. 

I want to apologize if there appears any unappreciative behavior on my part.  All of you are wonderfully nice and honest people.  I'm just frustrated beyond belief that I can't see what everyone else does.  I'm confused because it doesn't add up.   However, I am very glad to have everyone's feedback and it's nice to know that I do pass.  I just don't know why I can't see it and it makes no sense.

We're so hard on ourselves so it's great to have outside opinions. I think you look cute as a girl.

Quote from: learningtolive on March 02, 2014, 07:16:08 AM
I felt a little silly this morning, so I took so pictures.  I'm not wearing any makeup, look a mess, and still am in boy clothes, but I sort of felt cute.  Guess, I'm growing some confidence.  However, I still don't feel like I come close to passing and need a lot of work done.  What do you think?

Again, take it easy on me because I'm still a work in progress and it terrifies me to share my images, but do let me know if I have the potential to pass. I just don't feel like I'm there yet, but other people are telling me that I pass.   

     

Of course you have a potential to pass, and a great one at that too!
Just keep going and good things will happen!

Quote from: learningtolive on March 02, 2014, 10:20:33 AM
Thank you to you and everyone else that has responded. 

I want to apologize if there appears any unappreciative behavior on my part.  All of you are wonderfully nice and honest people.  I'm just frustrated beyond belief that I can't see what everyone else does.  I'm confused because it doesn't add up.   However, I am very glad to have everyone's feedback and it's nice to know that I do pass.  I just don't know why I can't see it and it makes no sense.

The most significant issue I see is a bit of a beard shadow.

Quote from: learningtolive on March 02, 2014, 07:16:08 AM
I felt a little silly this morning, so I took so pictures.  I'm not wearing any makeup, look a mess, and still am in boy clothes, but I sort of felt cute.  Guess, I'm growing some confidence.  However, I still don't feel like I come close to passing and need a lot of work done.  What do you think?

Again, take it easy on me because I'm still a work in progress and it terrifies me to share my images, but do let me know if I have the potential to pass. I just don't feel like I'm there yet, but other people are telling me that I pass.   

     

glad you're finally getting over your fears

Quote from: 930310 on March 02, 2014, 02:04:40 AM
So this is shopped then? Otherwise I'd say that judging by the picture you pass.

Actually passing is nearly meaningless to me. In business meetings, I can not hide my real name and identity, but I wear skirt, high heels and lipstick.

In the street, nearly all of the people who once watched my back try to check my face by turning back their head to me several times. A few of them even chased me for more than an hour. My height alone stands me out, whether it is in northern Europe or in Southeast Asia. In Seoul, I can see some tall and beautiful foreign ladies, and they also study me.

Some drunken Korean women in the bar try to speak to me, shouting like "I wish to touch your legs!" Age women tend to grasp my hands or arms, soliciting something or asking the direction.







The final one is with my graduate students yesterday night.

baerbie~~

Quote from: barbie on March 02, 2014, 11:11:24 AM
learningtolive,

I think a merit is that you have a fair face. But the fair face can reveal any trace of grey beard area. Also clothes are important, and you may need a nice feminine top. Wearing some eyeliner and mascara would be great.

barbie~~

I think she's a little young to have to worry about gray beard hairs, if that's what you meant. Your correct though a little mascara, eyeliner, some foundation and a nice blouse/feminine clothes, will really set her off.

Quote from: barbie on March 02, 2014, 11:11:24 AM
learningtolive,

I think a merit is that you have a fair face. But the fair face can reveal any trace of grey beard area. Also clothes are important, and you may need a nice feminine top. Wearing some eyeliner and mascara would be great.

barbie~~

Thanks.  I'm in the process of doing laser every 6 weeks and it's working, but I guess I need more sessions before it's perfect.  Also, I didn't shave before those pictures.  I kind of woke up and snapped away with my camera, lol.  Yeah, makeup and the proper attire is important, but I feel like I want my core presentation to pass.  Like achieve male fail so to speak.  That's why I want to know what people think of my "boy mode".  It's great to know others see me as passing even like this, but I still can't see it for myself.  I'm having a tough time with it. 

Omg Learnng you are adorable! So cute and so there. I feel you pass now. Seriously keep up whatever you are doing because good things are happening

Barbie you are meticulous and beautifully stylish. I love you with your hair up, that's hard to pull off (at least for me.) So pretty.

Quote from: barbie on March 02, 2014, 11:53:32 AM
Actually passing is nearly meaningless to me. In business meetings, I can not hide my real name and identity, but I wear skirt, high heels and lipstick.

In the street, nearly all of the people who once watched my back try to check my face by turning back their head to me several times. A few of them even chased me for more than an hour. My height alone stands me out, whether it is in northern Europe or in Southeast Asia. In Seoul, I can see some tall and beautiful foreign ladies, and they also study me.

Some drunken Korean women in the bar try to speak to me, shouting like "I wish to touch your legs!" Age women tend to grasp my hands or arms, soliciting something or asking the direction.







The final one is with my graduate students yesterday night.

baerbie~~

I can't believe how anyone could read you as male. You look female in your pictures.

Quote from: barbie on March 02, 2014, 11:53:32 AM
Actually passing is nearly meaningless to me. In business meetings, I can not hide my real name and identity, but I wear skirt, high heels and lipstick.

In the street, nearly all of the people who once watched my back try to check my face by turning back their head to me several times. A few of them even chased me for more than an hour. My height alone stands me out, whether it is in northern Europe or in Southeast Asia. In Seoul, I can see some tall and beautiful foreign ladies, and they also study me.

Some drunken Korean women in the bar try to speak to me, shouting like "I wish to touch your legs!" Age women tend to grasp my hands or arms, soliciting something or asking the direction.







The final one is with my graduate students yesterday night.

baerbie~~

I like the way you dress

How do we post images in this thread?  I have a smugmug account, but don't have the money to sign the contract to keep it running.  What sites are you all using to host your images?  I would just like a place where I can post my progress photos, with privacy.

How envious am I of Barbie for having those long legs and pretty face, and not being afraid to be who she is?  Really envious   One of these days it's not going to matter to me, either.

I use photobucket for hosting.

Here are four pictures of me, boy mode.  Once I have begun to acquire some girly things I will take pictures of me in girl mode. 







If anyone wants to go crazy with photoshop (changing anything that HRT could affect, adding a wig, etc.) please do do.  Just keep it realistic, and no, I don't need a promotional photo for the Barnum & Bailey Circus.   

Please note that I am hearing impaired and I have small ears....

Quote from: learningtolive on March 02, 2014, 07:16:08 AM
I felt a little silly this morning, so I took so pictures.  I'm not wearing any makeup, look a mess, and still am in boy clothes, but I sort of felt cute.  Guess, I'm growing some confidence.  However, I still don't feel like I come close to passing and need a lot of work done.  What do you think?

Again, take it easy on me because I'm still a work in progress and it terrifies me to share my images, but do let me know if I have the potential to pass. I just don't feel like I'm there yet, but other people are telling me that I pass.   

Finally a face!  You have beautiful eyes and are very pretty <3