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Passing in everyone's eyes but my own and other goodies. Anyone relate?

Started by Ltl89, March 04, 2014, 05:54:39 PM

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Aina

Think of it this way Learning, not even Cis-Males and Females pass 100% of the time. So why worry when society puts us all on a pedestal that we can't and shouldn't need to reach.

Be "you" that is all you can be!

Again I will state you look adorable and remind me of a girl in my class, you already pass IMO and I am the type who pays to much attention to detail - Being a graphic designer we are a bit crazy about that sort of thing....in a HEALTHY way....maybe.
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BunnyBee

Quote from: learningtolive on March 06, 2014, 05:50:17 AM
Yeah, see I have no doubt that I'd pass as female, but I want to blend in with ciswomen rather than be seen as a transgirl.  That's why I'm obsessing over any little flaw or perceived male trait because it puts me at risk of being detected.  It just makes me feel bad.  Like I feel uncomfortable about other people knowing or seeing me as a fraud when this is really who I am.  The societal privilege to be myself is almost riding on the tacit approval that passing can provide.  Seeing anything that could distinguish me from other women makes me feel like this will be in danger.  Overall, I realize this is a very unhealthy way of living.  At some point I will need some sense of internal trans pride and self confidence, which is being worked on very much at this point, but it still isn't up to par.  All in all, I realize there is no such thing as passing 100 percent and that people will know, so I really am trying to get over this social hurdle.  Knowing that my passing potential is high makes it a little more bearable for me.

Yeah, I mean I think it is something that really will make everything easier and which after you stop caring, you suddenly stop havig issues of people reading anything into you somehow.  I think it is a self-confidence thing.   When you exude self-consciousness people look close to see what has you so ashamed or worried about.  Idk, just a theory.
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stephaniec

Quote from: Jen on March 06, 2014, 11:28:51 AM
Yeah, I mean I think it is something that really will make everything easier and which after you stop caring, you suddenly stop havig issues of people reading anything into you somehow.  I think it is a self-confidence thing.   When you exude self-consciousness people look close to see what has you so ashamed or worried about.  Idk, just a theory.
yes, it just excepting who you are or just not transitioning and excepting  that person as who you are. It's really all about how you want to live. Excepting either choice along with all the flaws. If the flaws are the problem which choice has the less flaws.
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anais

Same here, I just see a man in the mirror and I don't really believe the people who say I'm able to pass. It's hard to get rid of that male mental image in your head.
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FalseHybridPrincess

Quote from: anais on March 06, 2014, 02:19:22 PM
Same here, I just see a man in the mirror and I don't really believe the people who say I'm able to pass. It's hard to get rid of that male mental image in your head.

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Ltl89

Quote from: Jen on March 06, 2014, 11:28:51 AM
Yeah, I mean I think it is something that really will make everything easier and which after you stop caring, you suddenly stop havig issues of people reading anything into you somehow.  I think it is a self-confidence thing.   When you exude self-consciousness people look close to see what has you so ashamed or worried about.  Idk, just a theory.

I'm definitely working on it.  I just have so much social phobia.  Believe me, I have very little confidence in myself and my social anxiety only makes things so much harder.  I really don't know why I care so much about what others think, but I do.  To be honest, I'm very much a coward in many ways, so this is very hard for me to overcome.  Nonetheless, I keep moving forward at my slow pace and keep making improvements.  I mean I did accomplish a lot in less than a year and I'm amazed I had the strength to get where I am today.  It's just frustrating sometimes and very challenging for me.

Quote from: anais on March 06, 2014, 02:19:22 PM
Same here, I just see a man in the mirror and I don't really believe the people who say I'm able to pass. It's hard to get rid of that male mental image in your head.

Quote from: FalsePrincess on March 06, 2014, 03:25:43 PM
indeed

I'm glad this is more common than I initially thought.  I was wondering if I was crazy or if we all go through this, lol.

Quote from: Aina on March 06, 2014, 11:02:49 AM
Think of it this way Learning, not even Cis-Males and Females pass 100% of the time. So why worry when society puts us all on a pedestal that we can't and shouldn't need to reach.

Be "you" that is all you can be!

Again I will state you look adorable and remind me of a girl in my class, you already pass IMO and I am the type who pays to much attention to detail - Being a graphic designer we are a bit crazy about that sort of thing....in a HEALTHY way....maybe.

Thank Aina.  I'm just not used to being me.  I'm just used to putting up a lot of walls and creating defense mechanisms to protect myself from pain and exposure, that it's hard to reverse my old patterns.  I'm trying really hard though.  I just don't know what to do at times.   

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Megumi

Quote from: learningtolive on March 04, 2014, 05:54:39 PM
I don't know what's been going on lately, but it seems that everyone I talk to or ask is telling me I pass as female.  I used to just write these things off as "oh, they are being nice" or "oh, they are giving me hope", but it's been happening way to frequently for me to consider that's always the case.   Not just with the people on here, but friends, acquaintances and even some of my family - the same ones that would tell me often that I could never pass no matter what I do- are telling me that I look female already or that I can and will pass.   Some are even telling me that I'm pretty which I find really hard to accept.  And even more bizarre is that I haven't been told by anyone within the last month that I don't or can't pass.  Not even one person. This is all very confusing to me because I'm still seeing a boy when I look into the mirror, for the most part.  I stare at all my flaws that are so obvious to me and they out me in a second.   How are others not seeing what's painfully obvious to me?   While I admit that I'm much different looking and that I'm fem, I can't see a girl at all or even most times staring back at me.   Sure, when I put on makeup, I feel that I pass alright.  Yet, when I look at my bare face, I still see "him" and I don't want that.  It's causing a whole lot of distress for me because I'm wondering if "he'll" ever be gone.  What if I always see a boy in my face?  How can I handle that?  Will I always have gender dysphoria?  While I understand there may be an adjustment period, I really hope that I CAN adjust. 
The same thing has been happening to me lately. I'm not full time yet but when I do present as myself everyone says I pass 100%. I can believe this as I've had to out myself twice by showing my ID and the person who looked at it had to do the double, triple, quaddripple takes looking back in forth before I said yep that is me. I know I "pass" but I really don't believe it for the same reasons as you do. I still see him in the mirror, but I do know that eventually I wont see him staring back at me. It will only be me in the mirror :D

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Aina

Quote from: learningtolive on March 06, 2014, 04:47:04 PM

Thank Aina.  I'm just not used to being me.  I'm just used to putting up a lot of walls and creating defense mechanisms to protect myself from pain and exposure, that it's hard to reverse my old patterns.  I'm trying really hard though.  I just don't know what to do at times.

Yeah I understand that, at least when it comes to RL - I suppose I had a bit of freedom being myself online and honestly it may be the reason why I got this far with out going completely bonkers.  ;D
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Joanna Dark

In order to make an honest, informed opinion, you need to get rid of the guy clothes you wearing the photos. A button down shirt and tee under it screams GUY. Pluck your eyebrows. (There is no such thing as two perfect brows). Get some makeup. If you can't aford laser, pluck the hairs. Put on some skinnies, a pair of flats (Keds work), and wear a cute, form-fitting top or just a striped long sleev top ala jean Seaberg or Gennifer Goodwin. They both stole my stylre cause I read it in Lucky. That's the only way you will know if you truly pass. In some of the pics, escpeically the last one, you look femme, but in the others, I can't say cause you have no makeup on, a tiny stache and the requisite guy uniform.

I think if you present, and WORK it, you'll do great. But until you do that, you'll never really know. I don't think Ipass well in pictures but when I went to the doctors they kept asking when the last time I had vaginal sex was, guys whistle at me (well today they did but today I looked good. Kinda yucky but validating), and everyone says her (and I mean total strangers.).

Until you try, you'll never know. This may sound a little harsh, but the only way you'll truly know is by trying. I mean, you're going to have to eventually, right? Maybe I'm not the best person to take advice from since I just got back from my stupid ex's who is living with this 60 year old woman who acts like his mom. Eww. They're not like doing anything unless she somehow slipped into bed with us, but it still annoys me so forgive me if I seem harsh.
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Ltl89

Quote from: Joanna Dark on March 06, 2014, 09:12:05 PM
In order to make an honest, informed opinion, you need to get rid of the guy clothes you wearing the photos. A button down shirt and tee under it screams GUY. Pluck your eyebrows. (There is no such thing as two perfect brows). Get some makeup. If you can't aford laser, pluck the hairs. Put on some skinnies, a pair of flats (Keds work), and wear a cute, form-fitting top or just a striped long sleev top ala jean Seaberg or Gennifer Goodwin. They both stole my stylre cause I read it in Lucky. That's the only way you will know if you truly pass. In some of the pics, escpeically the last one, you look femme, but in the others, I can't say cause you have no makeup on, a tiny stache and the requisite guy uniform.

I think if you present, and WORK it, you'll do great. But until you do that, you'll never really know. I don't think Ipass well in pictures but when I went to the doctors they kept asking when the last time I had vaginal sex was, guys whistle at me (well today they did but today I looked good. Kinda yucky but validating), and everyone says her (and I mean total strangers.).

Until you try, you'll never know. This may sound a little harsh, but the only way you'll truly know is by trying. I mean, you're going to have to eventually, right? Maybe I'm not the best person to take advice from since I just got back from my stupid ex's who is living with this 60 year old woman who acts like his mom. Eww. They're not like doing anything unless she somehow slipped into bed with us, but it still annoys me so forgive me if I seem harsh.


Yeah, I understand.  See, I feel my presentation is somewhat feminine, but I don't feel that I pass as of now.  Sure, makeup and the right clothing will help me in the long run, but I'd like my core appearance to pass as well.  I'm more interested in what people see when they look at the bare bones me and that's why I showed myself off in boy mode.  I don't want a biased interpretation and would rather people judge my natural looks.  And for some reason I feel weird about trying to pass until I feel like I've come as close to male fail as possible which I'm personally not feeling at all when I look at myself.  Even though I realize my appearance could be improved upon with all these things, I feel they come after the rest is improved upon.  Like it should add to my presentation rather than become my presentation if you get what I mean.  I know I'm weird.

Though I'm going to definetly where different clothing and use makeup once I go full time and I've been building up my wardrobe recently. Also, I'm going to change up my hair a bit to help diminish my nose and forehead which should do some good.  And laser is a work in progress but it's taking time.  Sadly, it's harder for me to get a close shave because of the dead hairs and all those pictures were taken around the exfoliating process which adds to the facial hair appearance.  All of these changes will add to my presentation, but I'm afraid they may not be enough to guarantee passing if you know what I mean.  That's why I'm concerned. 

I'm going to start getting out soon, but I'm very scared.  Though I realize I can't live in fear forever. But I'm trying really hard to overcome these fears. 
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Anatta

Quote from: learningtolive on March 06, 2014, 09:32:31 PM

I'm going to start getting out soon, but I'm very scared.  Though I realize I can't live in fear forever. But I'm trying really hard to overcome these fears.

Kia Ora L,

Have you tried meditation ? "The mind is the root from which all things grow!"

Metta Anatta :)
"The most essential method which includes all other methods is beholding the mind. The mind is the root from which all things grow. If you can understand the mind, everything else is included !"   :icon_yes:
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Ltl89

Quote from: Anatta on March 06, 2014, 09:38:51 PM
Kia Ora L,

Have you tried meditation ? "The mind is the root from which all things grow!"

Metta Anatta :)

No, but I'm open to it.  I'm actually considering picking up a second therapist that specializes in social anxiety.  I feel I need help in that department and while my current therapist is great, I'd like to go deeper than just my gender issues.  I think conquering this fear is the key to everything for me to find inner peace and feel comfortable being myself and living the life I want. 
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Anatta

Quote from: learningtolive on March 06, 2014, 09:41:46 PM
No, but I'm open to it.  I'm actually considering picking up a second therapist that specializes in social anxiety.  I feel I need help in that department and while my current therapist is great, I'd like to go deeper than just my gender issues.  I think conquering this fear is the key to everything for me to find inner peace and feel comfortable being myself and living the life I want.

Kia Ora L,

Meditation in a scientific sense is just exploring how ones mind works and how one is continually creating ones reality...

By tuning into and allowing 'awareness' to become the non reactive observer of ones thoughts, feelings, sensations, emotions,(fear just being thought+sensation=emotion) one learns how to go with the flow of whatever emotions arise in a detached way-as the observer and not the participant...

I've heard many therapists nowadays use "mindfulness" as a tool to help their clients overcome anxiety...

MCBT http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mindfulness-based_cognitive_therapy

I wish you well...And hope you find what it is you're looking for....

Metta Anatta :)
"The most essential method which includes all other methods is beholding the mind. The mind is the root from which all things grow. If you can understand the mind, everything else is included !"   :icon_yes:
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Miranda Catherine

LTL,
    Why do you think we, as women, wear makeup? I do admit I see a woman now every time I look in the mirror, even without makeup, but I can't always say it was that way every single day for the first year. There were plenty of days I thought I looked like the old me, quite a few even in makeup. I don't think it was true, though, in retrospect, and someday you won't probably won't either. I saw your photos and you do NOT look male to me at all. It's just the male creep in us trying to hang on and keep ruining our lives. I do things, though, to simply feel more feminine. For one, I wear makeup even if I don't leave the house, and always wear some jewelry, at the very least, earrings. I also wear a dress every day, too. I'm a girlie girl, I guess, but I'll tell you without a doubt, it helps to make me feel more feminine. Maybe you should try one of those things if you don't do them now. I wore pants for the first 56 years of my life, so I'm going to wear a dress the next 56! After that, I may wear pants again, but I'm not quite there yet, lol!
These three years have been the best of my entire life
ones I've been able to live without lying
and the only time I've had since the age of twelve
I haven't constantly thought about dying



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Joanna Dark

Quote from: learningtolive on March 06, 2014, 09:32:31 PM
I'm more interested in what people see when they look at the bare bones me and that's why I showed myself off in boy mode.  I don't want a biased interpretation and would rather people judge my natural looks.  And for some reason I feel weird about trying to pass until I feel like I've come as close to male fail as possible which I'm personally not feeling at all when I look at myself.  Even though I realize my appearance could be improved upon with all these things, I feel they come after the rest is improved upon.  Like it should add to my presentation rather than become my presentation if you get what I mean.  I know I'm weird.

I understand what you mean, and I guess it's hard for me to understand cause I get miss'd or whispered at "that's a girl" when I have to present in male-ish for business reasons. And the stares in the men's room are nearly unbearable. And yeah I guess I'm lucky but the thing is presentation is really important. If you dress like a boy, people are going to see that. You should at least dress more andro and I don't mean male andro. I mean wear women's clothes like a pair of Classic Fit Lee's (NO BOOTCUT) and a a more open top. Heck, even a woman's plaid blouse would work. That way you have plausible deniablity if it comes to that but you'd still be dressed kinda womanly. I mean fidning out male fail is tough. The only way I found out was cause I was stopped by the police and they wouldn't believe I was male. I went full time, as much as I can at the moment, after that. Try a little foundation and some blush and a teeny touch of mascara just to bring out your eyes. A little concealer around any other problem areas could work too. And last, try some lip butter.

I was at a trans support group today and all the trans women are going to this makeup class but they arent giving out free makeup so, no point for me. But I realize not every trans girl has been playing with makeup since they were six-seven. The thing is, in that last pic, you do look femme and pass. But yo need makeup. I don;t care what trans women say on this board almost every woman wears some type of makeup, even if it's just bar mineral's foundation and blush. In fact, in a study, somthing like 75 percent of women said they won't leave the house without it. If it's not for you, that's okay. But ya gotta try. I know it's scary but a life without risk isn't much of a life. Take some. Build on it. You'll be amazed at what you can do if ya just give yourself a chance. I was petrified. But nothing happened. I use the women's room all the time and stand among tons of women. Nothing. No looks. No nothing. Heck I went to an uemployment appeal in all male clothes and in the letter they sent me saying the outcome I was only referred to as she. So it's possible but I prolly still wore makeup, cause I always do. Prolly just foundation and blush tho.

You have to get over this fear. And I wouldnt recommend another therapist. That money could be better spent on makeup jk lol ok im not. But really, what will another therapist be able to do. Maybe get a short term script for benzos for the first couple outings. Just to take the edge off at first. I don't normally advocate that but I thinkit will help more than another $100/hr therapist.
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BunnyBee

Also it's good to start working on your style.  No reason to wait, even if you don't feel ready to go out publicly yet.  It takes a while to really figure out how you want to put outfits togeth, and how you feel most comfortable, and look the best.  At least for me it did
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Ltl89

Quote from: Anatta on March 06, 2014, 10:26:51 PM
Kia Ora L,

Meditation in a scientific sense is just exploring how ones mind works and how one is continually creating ones reality...

By tuning into and allowing 'awareness' to become the non reactive observer of ones thoughts, feelings, sensations, emotions,(fear just being thought+sensation=emotion) one learns how to go with the flow of whatever emotions arise in a detached way-as the observer and not the participant...

I've heard many therapists nowadays use "mindfulness" as a tool to help their clients overcome anxiety...

MCBT http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mindfulness-based_cognitive_therapy

I wish you well...And hope you find what it is you're looking for....

Metta Anatta :)

I'll look more into it, but I'm really not well versed in meditation in general. 

Quote from: Miranda Catherine on March 06, 2014, 10:45:00 PM
LTL,
    Why do you think we, as women, wear makeup? I do admit I see a woman now every time I look in the mirror, even without makeup, but I can't always say it was that way every single day for the first year. There were plenty of days I thought I looked like the old me, quite a few even in makeup. I don't think it was true, though, in retrospect, and someday you won't probably won't either. I saw your photos and you do NOT look male to me at all. It's just the male creep in us trying to hang on and keep ruining our lives. I do things, though, to simply feel more feminine. For one, I wear makeup even if I don't leave the house, and always wear some jewelry, at the very least, earrings. I also wear a dress every day, too. I'm a girlie girl, I guess, but I'll tell you without a doubt, it helps to make me feel more feminine. Maybe you should try one of those things if you don't do them now. I wore pants for the first 56 years of my life, so I'm going to wear a dress the next 56! After that, I may wear pants again, but I'm not quite there yet, lol!

See, I sort of percieve things in a different way.  Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy typical things that are seen as girly, but I don't really need them to feel feminine.  No matter what I wear or look, I feel the same way.  Sure, I wouldn't feel comfortable trying to go out and pass the way I look in my photos, but the feelings never change regardless of what I accessorize with.  I may enjoy how it looks and it may make me feel more comfortable with how others are viewing me, but the core feelings remain. 

In terms of seeing these things for myself, it does help when I wear makeup and put on the right clothes.  I do feel like I sort of pass in my own eyes when I do these things, but my mind always catches my flaws and the tell tale male signs.  Regardless what covers it up or what others don't see, I still see it.  For me, it's important that I can one day wake up and look in the mirror and say that's me and I like it.  Without the need to add things, just look at what's there at it's core and say that's a female no doubt.  Right now, it's not there.  And even when I put on a female presentation, these core things remain in my mind and fight with the visual female element that I detect.  What if other's see these things?  what if I really can't pass because of them?  That's why I put up boymode pictures because I wanted to see what others saw when they looked at my everyday appearance as of now.  What they see when I'm not at my best.  After all, no woman turns into a man when she is wearing layaround clothes or without makeup.  Yet, for us, it seems like we need to always accesorize in order to see ourselves and have others see it as well.  I know it's a tad weird that I think so deeply about this, but I can't help it.  It's the way I feel.

Perhaps I'm over thinking it.  I really am glad to have had such an overwhelming response to my pictures in boymode that it makes me feel much more confident about going out and actually trying to present.  I'm just a little afraid my flaws and tell tale signs will out me.  It's probably a fear that will disappear with time and experience though.

Quote from: Joanna Dark on March 06, 2014, 11:05:24 PM
I understand what you mean, and I guess it's hard for me to understand cause I get miss'd or whispered at "that's a girl" when I have to present in male-ish for business reasons. And the stares in the men's room are nearly unbearable. And yeah I guess I'm lucky but the thing is presentation is really important. If you dress like a boy, people are going to see that. You should at least dress more andro and I don't mean male andro. I mean wear women's clothes like a pair of Classic Fit Lee's (NO BOOTCUT) and a a more open top. Heck, even a woman's plaid blouse would work. That way you have plausible deniablity if it comes to that but you'd still be dressed kinda womanly. I mean fidning out male fail is tough. The only way I found out was cause I was stopped by the police and they wouldn't believe I was male. I went full time, as much as I can at the moment, after that. Try a little foundation and some blush and a teeny touch of mascara just to bring out your eyes. A little concealer around any other problem areas could work too. And last, try some lip butter.

I was at a trans support group today and all the trans women are going to this makeup class but they arent giving out free makeup so, no point for me. But I realize not every trans girl has been playing with makeup since they were six-seven. The thing is, in that last pic, you do look femme and pass. But yo need makeup. I don;t care what trans women say on this board almost every woman wears some type of makeup, even if it's just bar mineral's foundation and blush. In fact, in a study, somthing like 75 percent of women said they won't leave the house without it. If it's not for you, that's okay. But ya gotta try. I know it's scary but a life without risk isn't much of a life. Take some. Build on it. You'll be amazed at what you can do if ya just give yourself a chance. I was petrified. But nothing happened. I use the women's room all the time and stand among tons of women. Nothing. No looks. No nothing. Heck I went to an uemployment appeal in all male clothes and in the letter they sent me saying the outcome I was only referred to as she. So it's possible but I prolly still wore makeup, cause I always do. Prolly just foundation and blush tho.

You have to get over this fear. And I wouldnt recommend another therapist. That money could be better spent on makeup jk lol ok im not. But really, what will another therapist be able to do. Maybe get a short term script for benzos for the first couple outings. Just to take the edge off at first. I don't normally advocate that but I thinkit will help more than another $100/hr therapist.

Oh, I do wear and enjoy makeup, but I'm very cautious about wearing it outside.  Sometimes I'll wear a little concealer or something outside, but it's minimal at best.  To be honest, I look very different with the right amount of makeup, but I fear somehow people will detect my male tell tale signs even with that.  It bothers me. 

I suppose it's time for me to stop being chicken and just walk the walk at this point.   I'm just paralyzed by this fear and uncertain how to reduce it so that I can take the next step.  See most people here are strong and have more inner strength than I have.  I'm a total coward and always have been.  Getting to the point where I can overcome this is really important but its really hard for me.  I just don't know how to get myself to defeat this social anxiety and fear.  I want to do everything that I can to get comfortable beforehand. 

Quote from: Jen on March 07, 2014, 12:46:03 AM
Also it's good to start working on your style.  No reason to wait, even if you don't feel ready to go out publicly yet.  It takes a while to really figure out how you want to put outfits togeth, and how you feel most comfortable, and look the best.  At least for me it did

I've been doing that.  Sadly most of the clothes that I've acquired in the past don't really fit me well anymore as my body and weight has changed, so I've been starting from scratch.  I have a good idea about what I like and what I don't, but it's hard to tell what will work on me until I try it on.  Because I only do online shopping, it's sort of a guessing game and learning through failure sort of experience.  And because I'm broke right now, there is only so much of this that I can afford.  Although, I got a call on Tuesday about some temp work from my former employer, so my fingers are crossed.  I've been looking for employment and applying like crazy while hoping for a positive resolution to my former employers second appeal to overcome a higher freeze blocking me from filling a position. Once I have more pocket money, I'll be more free to experiment at a larger volume than what I can currently do.  I'm thinking that aside from my confidence issues, finances and working on my voice are my real big toughies.  The other stuff is likely more in my head, can be fixed or improved upon and minimal if handled in the right way.   Money is the biggest challenge of all. 
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FalseHybridPrincess

Quote from: learningtolive on March 07, 2014, 07:48:34 AM

See, I sort of percieve things in a different way.  Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy typical things that are seen as girly, but I don't really need them to feel feminine.  No matter what I wear or look, I feel the same way.  Sure, I wouldn't feel comfortable trying to go out and pass the way I look in my photos, but the feelings never change regardless of what I accessorize with.  I may enjoy how it looks and it may make me feel more comfortable with how others are viewing me, but the core feelings remain. 

In terms of seeing these things for myself, it does help when I wear makeup and put on the right clothes.  I do feel like I sort of pass in my own eyes when I do these things, but my mind always catches my flaws and the tell tale male signs.  Regardless what covers it up or what others don't see, I still see it.  For me, it's important that I can one day wake up and look in the mirror and say that's me and I like it.  Without the need to add things, just look at what's there at it's core and say that's a female no doubt.  Right now, it's not there.  And even when I put on a female presentation, these core things remain in my mind and fight with the visual female element that I detect.  What if other's see these things?  what if I really can't pass because of them?  That's why I put up boymode pictures because I wanted to see what others saw when they looked at my everyday appearance as of now.  What they see when I'm not at my best.  After all, no woman turns into a man when she is wearing layaround clothes or without makeup.  Yet, for us, it seems like we need to always accesorize in order to see ourselves and have others see it as well.  I know it's a tad weird that I think so deeply about this, but I can't help it.  It's the way I feel.

Perhaps I'm over thinking it.  I really am glad to have had such an overwhelming response to my pictures in boymode that it makes me feel much more confident about going out and actually trying to present.  I'm just a little afraid my flaws and tell tale signs will out me.  It's probably a fear that will disappear with time and experience though.



I actually feel exatcly the same...
100% exatcly the same...
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Follow me and I ll do your dishes.

Also lets be friends on fb :D
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FalseHybridPrincess

Anyway Ive been thinking about something else too...

Its not that we pass 100% , I dont at least...
I have an androgynous mode that gets gendered male all time

So? 

Im sure that if my average mode would get gendered female instead of male then Id had no fears and doubts...
I just dont want to feel that im working on something...I mean a female without make up and female clothes is still a female...
without those im just a feminine guy...Im just seriously hoping that in the future this will change...
http://falsehybridprincess.tumblr.com/
Follow me and I ll do your dishes.

Also lets be friends on fb :D
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BunnyBee

It sounds like you are making good and positive steps l2l.  You should feel encouraged.
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