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Do/Will you tell people you're trans?

Started by Annaiyah, March 13, 2014, 09:48:19 AM

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Annaiyah

I was just wondering, after you've transitioned, do any of you ever tell anyone you're a trans person? I'm addressing this question to any trans person of any gender, whether you're FtM or MtF.

I've noticed that a lot of us (myself included) would prefer to live their lives as their preferred gender as though they were always that gender, not as born the unwanted gender then became the other, which is basically the point of transitioning anyway.

Some trans people even go on to be activists for the LGBT community and some don't mind people knowing about their prior gender and that they've transitioned but me personally, as an MtF I'd prefer to live my life as female, not as having transitioned... all though I did...

Well, when it comes to meeting new friends and dating, is it even a good idea to tell those people then? My female friends, I just may as they are supposed to be my friends anyway. But my boyfriend or whoever I date, I just may not because that's where things get dangerous. I've noticed in one of Kat Blaque's YouTube videos, she was talking about how telling a guy she's trans is prone to getting a lot of transwomen killed because the man was so attracted to this woman and then he finds out she was once a male, he gets so angry and putoff by that that he ends up murdering her. God forbids that happens to me.

How about this: I will tell very few people as possible. My gender status will be like my Social Security Number. It's just not something you tell people. Well, funny I should put it that way because I'd rather give people my SSN than to tell someone I used to be a man.

The other reason is, I, unfortunately, have had my experience with getting clocked on quite a few occasions and I did not like or appreciate it at all. I've also seen people point to transwomen and say "Oh, she's really a man!", tell transwomen "You are a man!" and all that other garbage (same with telling FtM people they're still women) and that would just anger me on so many levels. "Anger" wouldn't even be the word to do it justice! I'm just afraid that even if I tell someone I think is my friend that I'm a transwoman, they might tell one person, who ends up telling the next person and so on and so on. Well, ideally I would want the "There is no way in Hell you were born male," response.

But then again, I don't want to live as a "transgendered woman" just as a naturally born female and by that I mean, I want to be gendered as female everywhere I go, on the phone, and to go to the women's bathrooms and changing rooms without anyone giving me a second glance, and to walk down the street without a man staring at me because I'm not walking right or something is giving me away (I've also had that experience and I didn't like it) or that they're trying to read my gender, and all that other garbage.

That being said, unless I have a super good reason for doing so, I will tell very few people as possible or just won't tell people I'm trans at all. Just a courteous side-note, if I have said anything in this post to offend anyone, I apologize. I'm open to your thoughts and opinions about this matter.





I'm just ready to leave my male past behind once and for all.
They say identity theft is a crime. Well, needless to say, a crime has been committed. My identity has been stolen. No, no one knows my social security number or has my credit card. I'm walking around in the wrong body. I'm wearing a costume which I cannot remove... and the only way I can remove that costume, is through surgery
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suzifrommd

I want my good friends all to know I'm Trans. No one really knows me unless they know that about me, because it's such a big part of how I became who I am. However, I wait until it becomes clear that we'll be come closer than just occasional acquaintances.

I never tell people I've just met. I don't want that to be my defining characteristic in their eyes.
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GnomeKid

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Quote from: suzifrommd on March 13, 2014, 10:11:32 AM
I want my good friends all to know I'm Trans. No one really knows me unless they know that about me, because it's such a big part of how I became who I am. However, I wait until it becomes clear that we'll be come closer than just occasional acquaintances.

I do tell people, but I don't if it seems like it would become a whole bull->-bleeped-<-ty "coming out" moment.  Not my scene.  Though I guess maybe in the case of someone I want to date it may come off more like that because I'll have more emotion invested into the situation.  Never had to do that yet... besides the one time, but that was as a lesbian with my gf helping me figure out that I really was trans. 

All my friends that I actually hang out with know, but my classmates in grad school don't (because I never really see them outside of class.  Casual acquaintances.. as suzi mentioned)  The other friends I've made here know, however.. and honestly I think some of them have even forgotten.  I don't make a big stink about it, but if I want to talk about being in the girlscouts or some other such thing I won't hesitate to do so.  Provided, of course that it wouldn't become a bull->-bleeped-<-ty coming out moment.  Usually I'll brush over it like its no big thing, and I'm surprised they didn't know.  Kind of like in AbFab when they talk about when Patsy was a man for a few years "until it fell off".  (Hilarious by the way... if you've never watched AbFab you really must.)

Its something I joke about.  Its something I definitely laugh about (in a positive light).  What else can you do?  Sit around and be miserable?  Sit around and be scared someone will learn your little secret?  What tosh and nonsense.  I prefer to stand strong and show the world that being trans is not something to be ashamed of. 

Staying stealth may be the best (and safest) option for some, and in certain situations (not going to go into a redneck bar and declare my trans status or anything).  Its not how I choose to live my life.  No hate on those who do.  I understand that some people need to leave it all behind them post transition in order to maintain their sanity, safety, career, or otherwise. 
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Jessica Merriman

I tell people because I am not ashamed of who I am. In todays tech oriented society it is almost impossible to go truly 100% stealth. I have a past and if I start to lie about it or deceive I then run the risk of being caught in a lie and further damaged. You can go your whole life in stealth, but it only takes one person finding out to shatter your world. I would rather people know and judge their response instead of being approached by someone who found out and surprises me placing me in a dangerous position. Everyone I go out with knows on meeting me for the first time, especially if their is a chance of a kiss or possibly a relationship potential. I feel personally you have to give people the truth because to deceive them in a moment of intimacy is far more dangerous than a social moment. :)
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Calder Smith

Of course I will; I'm not going to lie about my past. It's better to say look, I was born female but I identify fully as male than have your friend or partner find out themselves. I'm proud to be a FTM - it doesn't define all of who I am, but a good chunk of it.
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Jessika Lin

Quote from: AnnaiyahStarr on March 13, 2014, 09:48:19 AM


But then again, I don't want to live as a "transgendered woman" just as a naturally born female and by that I mean, I want to be gendered as female everywhere I go, on the phone, and to go to the women's bathrooms and changing rooms without anyone giving me a second glance, and to walk down the street without a man staring at me because I'm not walking right or something is giving me away (I've also had that experience and I didn't like it) or that they're trying to read my gender, and all that other garbage.

That being said, unless I have a super good reason for doing so, I will tell very few people as possible or just won't tell people I'm trans at all. Just a courteous side-note, if I have said anything in this post to offend anyone, I apologize. I'm open to your thoughts and opinions about this matter.





I'm just ready to leave my male past behind once and for all.

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mrs izzy

Nope. It has from the time i went full time on a need to know basis. 99% of people do not need to know.

I am a women and thats it.

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Annaiyah

Quote from: Jessica Merriman on March 13, 2014, 11:14:39 AM
I tell people because I am not ashamed of who I am. In todays tech oriented society it is almost impossible to go truly 100% stealth. I have a past and if I start to lie about it or deceive I then run the risk of being caught in a lie and further damaged. You can go your whole life in stealth, but it only takes one person finding out to shatter your world. I would rather people know and judge their response instead of being approached by someone who found out and surprises me placing me in a dangerous position. Everyone I go out with knows on meeting me for the first time, especially if their is a chance of a kiss or possibly a relationship potential. I feel personally you have to give people the truth because to deceive them in a moment of intimacy is far more dangerous than a social moment. :)

As much as I hate to admit it, I have to say that you are absolutely right.

But, it sounded to me (forgive me if I'm wrong), like you were saying that the truth always comes out because I might be trying to live a lie or something to that effect. That's just what I gleam from your post. I'm not trying to do that at all.

I do see myself telling one person or another about my male history... provided... pro-vided... I have a good reason for doing so as I kept saying in the OP. Like... I would have to really know and be close with this person and she and I would have to be close friends, and not to mention I would really need to have that person's trust. To each their own. By that I mean, hey, you're not ashamed of being an MtF and you know what? I applaud you for not. I discourage shame of being who you are.

But as for me, I'm not ashamed of being MtF but it's not something I'm overly proud of. It's just that no matter how passable I look or sound or no matter how much I pass as a genetic female, the fact still stands I was born male and there is no changing that. I don't like that I was born a male, and I have beyond 100% ever right not to. That being said, that doesn't mean the people I'm affiliated with needs to know about it.

So if a guy is attracted to me, I'm not gonna tell him straight out, "I was actually born male." NO! I'm not gonna tell some random man (or woman even) out on the street my misgender history when I barely even know their first name, especially if I'm sure I'll have a run-in with that person in the future or will be working with them at school or in the workplace. If I'm at a hospital and I'm being treated or whatever, sure. Well, maybe as it depends on what I'm being seen for.

You are right about one other thing. Just imagine having a group of friends you've known for a while ("a while" as in say... three years, maybe four) and one of them discover you were once a man. I can't myself fathom how bad that piece of truth would just blow up in everyone's face. Because Kat Blaque also said in one of her YouTube videos that once people find out you're trans they treat you differently and it's not positive, especially if they find you out themselves.

So I guess it's all a matter of trusting the right people, knowing who to tell and when.
They say identity theft is a crime. Well, needless to say, a crime has been committed. My identity has been stolen. No, no one knows my social security number or has my credit card. I'm walking around in the wrong body. I'm wearing a costume which I cannot remove... and the only way I can remove that costume, is through surgery
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Jill F

In my situation (middle aged and married), everybody who knew me before knows by now that I'm Jill.   It's not exactly a secret, nor will it ever be.    Sometimes I meet people through mutual friends, and I just assume they were (or will be) told.  It's no big deal.  I'm me, and I just happen to be trans.  SFW.  That being said, I don't advertise it either.  If you figure it out, it's OK.   There are people who have only ever known me as Jill.  Some know, some probably don't.  If it's not relevant, I don't bring it up.

Last summer I went to an event and met a woman who is a casual friend of my wife.  We talked for 20 minutes or so, had some laughs and she asked me how I knew my wife.

"So where do you know [wife's name] from?  Are you one of her law partners or just a friend?"

"I'm her wife."

"Wait, I thought she was married to a musician guy."

"I used to be her husband."

The look on her face was priceless.  I guess she didn't get the memo!
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mandonlym

The major thing that frustrates me about being stealth is not being able to advocate for other transpeople. After being super-duper out and being subject to all these annoying questions from people, I went through a period of being relatively quiet about it. But I could not ethically justify not speaking up or sharing information about trans issues, given how difficult I know transition to me and how many people have been kind to me throughout my life.

So there are people in my life who don't explicitly know because I haven't said the words "I am trans." But I'm very open about being an LGBT advocate, share trans-related advocacy stuff on Facebook, call people out when they're being transphobic, etc. So I'm sure people can read between the lines.
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FalseHybridPrincess

I let people know

I dont want to live in the fear of being discovered and I dont want others to see me as a person im not
Im trans and Im proud about it

its more fun like this , to know that people accept you and respect and love the real you.
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Jessica Merriman

Quote from: AnnaiyahStarr on March 13, 2014, 02:55:07 PM

But, it sounded to me (forgive me if I'm wrong), like you were saying that the truth always comes out because I might be trying to live a lie or something to that effect. That's just what I gleam from your post. I'm not trying to do that at all.
Nothing like that. What I meant was with medical records, social media and other things available now it only takes one bored medical office worker going through files to discover who you are and gossip about it. I mean if the government cant keep secrets with tons of hardware and tech, what is to silence a low paid office worker from sharing the latest HOT gossip. I just know from experience NO secret is safe these days. That is all. :)
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Jason C

I'll let people know. I don't want to lie to my friends or potential girlfriend (and I don't want surgery, so it's not something I could keep from someone I'm in a relationship with anyway lol). I think, for a lot of trans people, they want to separate themselves from their past, the time in their lives that they were miserable or confused, and I think that's OK. But for me, I don't feel like I need to do that, I'm happy to explain it to people, to anyone, because I'm still a guy. Being a trans guy doesn't make me less of one. I'd be scared of telling someone, sure, but if a friend can't accept something about me that's so trivial, they're not the kind of person I want to be friends with.
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KelsieJ

I'm at a point where I don't shout it from the rooftop, but it's an open secret. HR is formally aware, but many others have guessed at my workplace, and I've seen negative reactions from one or two which have likely prevented me from progressing in the workplace. Fortunately, we have a trans* policy and I'm the first on the job transition, so it's not something I fear will get me fired, but it's definitely already resulted in being passed up internally.

People seem genuinely interested in my boobs. Unnaturally so, from the size. They're not huge by any means, and most of the women where I work have larger ones, yet I'm the one men talk to while staring at my chest that's covered in a button-down man shirt, lol!!

Outside of the workplace, I live with a vitriolic homophobe so try not to exhibit any characteristics while in the communal areas of the house. Other than that, I'm pretty much always out ;)
Be the change you want to be :)
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Ltl89

As of now, yes I guess I sort of have to.  Once I go full time and get passed the beginning stages of my transition, I'd rather not tell people that don't need to know.  Why should I?  It's not a lie in my eyes.  The only people that I feel need to know, for me, are potential partners.  Everyone else important already knows or is soon to find out. 
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Missadventure

I lived 33 years as a male. Not by choice. But, never the less, that's the life I lived, and as such, it shaped me and helped define who I am today. It's my past. I will not hide from it. Plus, everyone who's anyone in my life knows I'm in transition, and I'm not going to ask them to keep it a secret.

That's not to say, if I ever get to a point where I can actually pass, that I'll go waiving a flag to announce it to the world. But, to any people I deem important to me that I meet after that day, well, I see nothing wrong with telling them. If they have a problem with it, then they have a problem with me, and I'm better off not having them in my life.

Jessika Lin

Quote from: learningtolive on March 13, 2014, 09:58:01 PM
As of now, yes I guess I sort of have to.  Once I go full time and get passed the beginning stages of my transition, I'd rather not tell people that don't need to know.  Why should I?  It's not a lie in my eyes.  The only people that I feel need to know, for me, are potential partners.  Everyone else important already knows or is soon to find out.

I agree completely!
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kountrygurl

Quote from: FalsePrincess on March 13, 2014, 07:23:02 PM
I let people know

I dont want to live in the fear of being discovered and I dont want others to see me as a person im not
Im trans and Im proud about it
its more fun like this , to know that people accept you and respect and love the real you.
.                                   This is how I am. You either accept the real me or you don't ...period.
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izzy

For me my policy is to tell the people who need to know. If somebodies a stranger there dont need to know and I dont need to tell every person I see in the street I am trans.
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Sandy

You have to admit, though, that it is a hard thing to drop in a conversation...

Acquaintance:  "Hi Sandy, how've you been?"

Sandy: "Fine, how was your weekend?"

A: "Wonderful!  We took the kids to the zoo and had a great time.  Did you do anything interesting?"

S: "Nothing in particular, played games with the grandkids, did laundry."

A: "Well, that's nice anyway.  It doesn't always have to be exciting."

S: "You're right.  Especially after my gender change."

***crickets***

A: "Well, how about those Cubs?"

-Sandy
Out of the darkness, into the light.
Following my bliss.
I am complete...
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