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Going full time...darkest before the dawn??

Started by Ms Grace, March 19, 2014, 02:16:18 PM

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Ms Grace

I'm only days from going full time, the plan is next Monday. I'm now out at work and have been well accepted by my colleagues even if one or two might feel a bit weird about it for their own personal reasons. Friends have all been supportive, even the ones who suffered through me the first time. Haven't told my family yet - that is a task still to come, one I'm not looking forward to. Passing in public has been generally not an issue, out of the thousands of people I've walked past, caught public transport with, etc I've had less than ten scrutinising weird looks (that I'm aware of) - and even then I think they probably decided I was a woman and then just moved on. I'm happy enough with my voice to use it confidently in public, shop assistants and the like don't blink when I use it, my shrink and counsellors say it is good and it is almost second nature to use now, not a strain on my vocal cords even if I'm using it continually (like in a counselling or shrink session). I feel utterly natural and comfortable passing as a woman. I AM a woman. All is going well, right?

Except...

I suddenly feel a massive sense of dread. Every fear I had about this at the outset has suddenly loomed larger than life... "I look like every hateful '->-bleeped-<-' stereotype ever spewed forth by cis transphobic society"... "I'm ruining my life, it was pretty good as a dude, if not utterly miserable, and I'm upending it to be able to wear dresses in public??"... "I'm an idiot, a joke, a laughing stock"... "Waaaaaaaahhhh!!!"... etc, etc! Worst of all "this will be my life forever"... the wig, the bras, the body waxing/shaving, the clothes the presentation, the tucking, the painful but gorgeous shoes, worrying about how I look... oh god, this is the life of a woman and it will be every day of my life from Monday onwards.

EVERY. &@#%ING. DAY.

So yeah. Cold feet? They are blocks of ice the size of an Arctic ice sheet. I don't personally subscribe to the idea of "he" is fighting back. I don't see myself in terms of he/she just "me"...so I don't think that's what's going on. Maybe I'm just finally realising there's a massive world of difference between the occasional fun outing as Grace and the unrelenting grind of mundane everyday life as Grace. Yeesh.

I'm keen to hear from others who have passed the threshold into permanent full time (or, like me are approaching it). Last minute doubts? How were the first few weeks on the other side? What is the daily experience like?
Grace
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Transition 1.0 (Julie): HRT 1989-91
Self-denial: 1991-2013
Transition 2.0 (Grace): HRT June 24 2013
Full-time: March 24, 2014 :D
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mrs izzy

I said today is the day. I am tired of liveing for others to be happy and just never looked back.

It was hard at first (mostly in my mind) but each day melted into the next.

I lived part time for years so the fears fell to confindence.

This time you work on living your true life. It has to be done for Grace and Gace only (well any SO that will enter your life).

Relax, ENJOY and do not forget the most impotrant thing of all Breathe.

It is a wonderful life we live.
Hugs Grace,
Isabell
Mrs. Izzy
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I used to be grounded but now I can fly.
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Carrie Liz

I'm facing interviewing for jobs as a girl soon, and the same exact fears are hitting me full-force.

It's freaking scary, and that "OMG, this is REAL" feeling definitely looms large.
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Ms Grace

Quote from: mind is quiet now on March 19, 2014, 02:42:32 PM
Relax, ENJOY and do not forget the most impotrant thing of all Breathe.

That's what I usually tell everyone else!  :laugh: But yes, I need to remember to do it myself and think I've been forgetting to of late. Thank you Isabell - always inspirational to hear from others who made it throughout to the other side. I guess if we thought starting HRT was a big deal, then going full time is by order of magnitude 1000 times greater!

Quote from: Carrie Liz on March 19, 2014, 03:08:24 PM
I'm facing interviewing for jobs as a girl soon, and the same exact fears are hitting me full-force.

It's freaking scary, and that "OMG, this is REAL" feeling definitely looms large.

Sure is! And good luck in your job interviews! :D
Grace
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Transition 1.0 (Julie): HRT 1989-91
Self-denial: 1991-2013
Transition 2.0 (Grace): HRT June 24 2013
Full-time: March 24, 2014 :D
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barbie

Precaution is always better, but don't afraid of going forward.

People accept my wearing miniskirt surprisingly better than I expected. I do not wear a skirt while lecturing at the classroom, and usually hide it under my long coat. I do sometimes wear high heel boots or lipstick during the class. I think it will be O.K. to wear mini-skirt during the class and I will try it in the upcoming summer.

Yesterday, just after finishing a class. The number of undergraduate students taking the class is about 60.



And two days ago, just before the class at the campus.



barbie~~
Just do it.
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Cindy

Fear and doubt is normal. But it fades quickly.

Very quickly you will realise that  .....you are you.

After that you don't care anymore.

You are just happy.
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suzifrommd

I remember in my local grocery store, in the run-up to going full-time, I used to pass the gender-neutral bathroom and think "That's where I'll have to go when I'm full time". That seemed like such a forbidden, evil, thing to do, to show up trying to look like a woman at a place as familiar as that store.

What if people knew? Would they do me violence? Or just think to themselves what an evil liar and dissembler I was.

Now I go there all the time. The gender-neutral bathroom is much cleaner than either the men's or the ladies'. No one gives me a second look, except the ladies who used to pass me in the aisles but now give me a warm smile because I'm one of them.

My therapist asked me whether I ever wished I could live as a male now and then.

My answer, without even thinking, "NOT FOR A SPLIT SECOND!"

Enjoy, Grace. I predict you're going to LOVE IT.
Have you read my short story The Eve of Triumph?
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meganB

I remember the day when I decided to go full time (despite not fully looking like a girl. Felt like the stares burned through me (I really wasn't passing at the start). However after some time I stopped looking and just do my thing.

Just because I could finaly live like myself en didn't have to hide myself anymore I became more happier and that showed in everthing.


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Jill F

Quote from: Ms Grace on March 19, 2014, 02:16:18 PM

I suddenly feel a massive sense of dread. Every fear I had about this at the outset has suddenly loomed larger than life... "I look like every hateful '->-bleeped-<-' stereotype ever spewed forth by cis transphobic society"... "I'm ruining my life, it was pretty good as a dude, if not utterly miserable, and I'm upending it to be able to wear dresses in public??"... "I'm an idiot, a joke, a laughing stock"... "Waaaaaaaahhhh!!!"... etc, etc! Worst of all "this will be my life forever"... the wig, the bras, the body waxing/shaving, the clothes the presentation, the tucking, the painful but gorgeous shoes, worrying about how I look... oh god, this is the life of a woman and it will be every day of my life from Monday onwards.

EVERY. &@#%ING. DAY.

So yeah. Cold feet? They are blocks of ice the size of an Arctic ice sheet. I don't personally subscribe to the idea of "he" is fighting back. I don't see myself in terms of he/she just "me"...so I don't think that's what's going on. Maybe I'm just finally realising there's a massive world of difference between the occasional fun outing as Grace and the unrelenting grind of mundane everyday life as Grace. Yeesh.

I'm keen to hear from others who have passed the threshold into permanent full time (or, like me are approaching it). Last minute doubts? How were the first few weeks on the other side? What is the daily experience like?

Hi Grace, and congrats on taking the next step.  It's not actually going to be that big, as I see you've really already done the heavy lifting.  All you are doing is permanently adhering to society's expectations of how they perceive women.  You have actually been full time your entire life. 

First off, screw all the haters.  There's nothing you can do about them.  If they keep you from presenting yourself the way you see fit, then they win and you lose.  They weren't going to be your friends anyway.

I'm guessing our situations are really like apples and oranges, but here's what happened with me.

When I went full time, it wasn't because I was told I needed to in order to get surgery at a set date or anything like that.  It was because I wanted to know for sure if this was the way things should really be for me before I felt the need to tell the whole world.   My therapist asked me one day why it was that I wasn't just Jill 24/7, and I didn't really have a good answer.  The last day I went out as Greg, I felt quite oppressed, even in somewhat androgynous clothing and "guyliner".  My perky nipples and mysteriously evaporating facial hair were about to give me away anyway, and I just felt ridiculous.  It is a lot easier to adhere to society's expectations of a male physically, but mentally I'd finally had enough seeing myself in male garb.  I mulled the full time option for a bit and figured that if for some reason I truly ever wanted to present male, I promised myself I would, and I could (thankfully) call the full transition off.   I mean, why even go there if you don't absolutely have to?  On some level, I really hoped I was truly an androgyne and could spare myself all of the hassle.   So about a year ago, I finally ran out of sh%ts to give about what anyone thought, took the leap of faith and went full time, not knowing what would happen next.  I'd only been out and about a few times as Jill, but what amazed me is that it was a complete non-event once I shed the mask once and for all.   It turned out that when I thought about it, I was only ever presenting male because it was convenient to adhere to expectations, not because I wanted to.  After less than a month of being full time, I decided to go full steam ahead with the transition and come out to the whole world pretty much all at once.  I figured I'd lose a ton of friends and family, and I was prepared to let those chips fall where they may.  It turned out that my fears were unfounded and that my people were overwhelmingly supportive.   It took a few people some time to wrap their heads around it, but some really surprised me.  The first call of support I got was actually from a conservative friend whom I most assumed would drop me like a hot brick.   My parents were the last to come around, but they did.  The only casualties from my coming out were a few ex-bandmates that didn't matter much to me anyway and a drunkle who is a recovering Jehovah's Witness and was persona non grata to my mother anyway.   

What I felt after I shed the mask once and for all was an amazing sense of freedom and levity.  The drab sturm-und-drang was gone forever, and I found myself happy, more sociable, friendly and outgoing.  Doing certain things for the first time did make me a bit anxious, like going to concerts, ball games, taking public trans*portation, camping, using restrooms and even womens' showers. I got some funny looks once in a while early on, but so effing what.   That stuff is all behind me now, and I just do everything any other woman does now without even thinking.   It is so nice being accepted for who I truly am, and knowing that I get to live out my days being true to myself now makes me want to live as many days as I can.   I no longer wish to hasten my expiration date, and that, perhaps, is the greatest benefit of my transition.  Oh, and the cute boots.

Best wishes,
Jill
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FrancisAnn

I think you will do just fine, you seem prepared. From my experience long ago.

For the first day just dress feminine but casual if you can, nothing flashy, low shoes, etc.....Look nice but do not over do it.

Just be yourself, try to not even think about it, just go about your business as normal. Someone will question no doubt. Just tell them straight out that you are correcting your gender & should have dressed this way years ago. That normally quieted down most any problem person for me.

Have fun, you deserve it.
mtF, mid 50's, always a girl since childhood, HRT (Spiro, E & Fin.) since 8-13. Hormone levels are t at 12 & estrogen at 186. Face lift & eye lid surgery in 2014. Abdominoplasty/tummy tuck & some facial surgery May, 2015. Life is good for me. Love long nails & handsome men! Hopeful for my GRS & a nice normal depth vagina maybe by late summer. 5' 8", 180 pounds, 14 dress size, size 9.5 shoes. I'm kind of an elegant woman & like everything pink, nice & neet. Love my nails & classic Revlon Red. Moving back to Florida, so excited but so much work moving
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Ms Grace

Quote from: barbie on March 19, 2014, 05:05:38 PM
Precaution is always better, but don't afraid of going forward.

Yes, I must admit to over thinking things most of the time!

Quote from: Cindy on March 19, 2014, 05:12:42 PM
Very quickly you will realise that  .....you are you.

I'm certainly looking forward to that moment... :)

Quote from: suzifrommd on March 19, 2014, 05:56:51 PM
Enjoy, Grace. I predict you're going to LOVE IT.

Thanks Suzi, I know that is my prediction too, was just very hard to believe it this morning for some reason.

Quote from: Jill F on March 19, 2014, 07:22:45 PM
All you are doing is permanently adhering to society's expectations of how they perceive women.  You have actually been full time your entire life. 

I really like that way of looking at it!

Quote from: Jill F on March 19, 2014, 07:22:45 PM
I no longer wish to hasten my expiration date, and that, perhaps, is the greatest benefit of my transition.  Oh, and the cute boots.

I can really relate to those two, er, points! ;D

Quote from: meganB on March 19, 2014, 06:58:37 PM
...I could finaly live like myself en didn't have to hide myself anymore I became more happier and that showed in everthing.

Which is what I'm expecting but was surprised at how much I wasn't feeling it this morning, just dread.

Quote from: FrancisAnn on March 19, 2014, 08:15:38 PM
For the first day just dress feminine but casual if you can, nothing flashy, low shoes, etc.....Look nice but do not over do it.

Depending on the weather I've already got my Monday outfit sorted out! And it's everything you suggested too.

Thank you all for sharing your wonderful stories, insights and support. I do feel quite a bit better now. I think I was just feeling a bit over emotional and extremely tired after an intense week of work deadlines, outing myself to all my colleagues and various other stressful moments. Took the day off work, rested, got out of the house, ran some errands and now feel more normal than I have been for days. The dread has, for the moment receded. Onwards and upwards!
Grace
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Transition 1.0 (Julie): HRT 1989-91
Self-denial: 1991-2013
Transition 2.0 (Grace): HRT June 24 2013
Full-time: March 24, 2014 :D
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Emmaline

Body... meet brain.  Now follow her lead and there will be no more trouble, you dig?



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Gina Taylor

Quote from: Ms Grace on March 19, 2014, 02:16:18 PM
I'm only days from going full time, the plan is next Monday. I'm now out at work and have been well accepted by my colleagues even if one or two might feel a bit weird about it for their own personal reasons. Friends have all been supportive, even the ones who suffered through me the first time. Haven't told my family yet - that is a task still to come, one I'm not looking forward to. Passing in public has been generally not an issue, out of the thousands of people I've walked past, caught public transport with, etc I've had less than ten scrutinising weird looks (that I'm aware of) - and even then I think they probably decided I was a woman and then just moved on. I'm happy enough with my voice to use it confidently in public, shop assistants and the like don't blink when I use it, my shrink and counsellors say it is good and it is almost second nature to use now, not a strain on my vocal cords even if I'm using it continually (like in a counselling or shrink session). I feel utterly natural and comfortable passing as a woman. I AM a woman. All is going well, right?

Except...

I suddenly feel a massive sense of dread. Every fear I had about this at the outset has suddenly loomed larger than life... "I look like every hateful '->-bleeped-<-' stereotype ever spewed forth by cis transphobic society"... "I'm ruining my life, it was pretty good as a dude, if not utterly miserable, and I'm upending it to be able to wear dresses in public??"... "I'm an idiot, a joke, a laughing stock"... "Waaaaaaaahhhh!!!"... etc, etc! Worst of all "this will be my life forever"... the wig, the bras, the body waxing/shaving, the clothes the presentation, the tucking, the painful but gorgeous shoes, worrying about how I look... oh god, this is the life of a woman and it will be every day of my life from Monday onwards.

EVERY. &@#%ING. DAY.

So yeah. Cold feet? They are blocks of ice the size of an Arctic ice sheet. I don't personally subscribe to the idea of "he" is fighting back. I don't see myself in terms of he/she just "me"...so I don't think that's what's going on. Maybe I'm just finally realising there's a massive world of difference between the occasional fun outing as Grace and the unrelenting grind of mundane everyday life as Grace. Yeesh.

I'm keen to hear from others who have passed the threshold into permanent full time (or, like me are approaching it). Last minute doubts? How were the first few weeks on the other side? What is the daily experience like?

Congratulations in advance Ms. Grace!  :eusa_clap: It's gonna be a big day for you on Monday, and I know that 99.9% of your colleges are gonna be there with open arms to accept you. I know that you're gonna be full of confidence and lots of spirit as well and nothing is gonna stand in your way as you make it the first and best day of your life as a woman!  :icon_smile:
Gina Marie Taylor  8)
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JulieC.

QuoteCold feet? They are blocks of ice the size of an Arctic ice sheet.

Oh, haven't you heard?  the Arctic ice sheet is getting smaller every day.

Seriously though, I have felt that same sense of dread on every major decision I've made in life.  From which college, am I doing the right thing moving to a new state, is this really the girl I should marry?  The closer the event the larger the dread would become.  But once the moment passed it was always followed by the greatest content.  Never regrets.  It's not that I have always made the right decision therefore I had no reason for regret.  It's just that at that point it's time to move forward and make it the right decision.

On Monday you're going to move forward with your life.  Sure it will have some difficult moments. You're right there will be a lot of work to being a full time woman...just ask my wife.  God there is a lot of work to being a part time woman.  Besides you're already there.  You look great and it sounds like you've got your voice down.  I think on Monday you're going to feel a wonderful sense of relief.  You're going to be yourself and it will feel right!

I just want to add one thing and that is that I really admire you while being very jealous of you at the same time.  I admire you because I'm not sure I have the courage to go full time yet.  And I'm envious because I know my "Monday" is a ways away and I can't wait to feel that dread I know I will feel on the eve.  You're lucky!



"Happiness is not something ready made.  It comes from your own actions" - Dalai Lama
"It always seem impossible until it's done." - Nelson Mandela
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Rachel

Hugs Grace, I am sending good thoughts your way.

I know you are sharing with your family tomorrow and I hope all gos well for you. Break a leg. :)

By the way, your avatar looks great and you look like a woman! you go girl.
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