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Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 2.0

Started by V M, November 15, 2013, 06:49:08 AM

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Aina

Alaia, that is about how my hairline is when I pull my hair back and really bums me out thinking about it when considering transitioning, but as False Princess said your face actually comes already looks pretty feminine I think you'll do fine.
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Alaia

Thank you all for the replies! And you are all too kind saying my face looks feminine already. But hey, I'll take the compliments even if I don't buy it :D

Quote from: FalsePrincess on March 21, 2014, 08:07:34 PM
@Alaia

Im sure that with hrt you ll be able to pass ,,,
you can do the forehead work and hairline lowering for better results, but your face has a lot of feminine qualities :)
Yeah, I was thinking I'll probably at least end up going for forehead contouring along with a hairline advancement, probably a brow lift too.


Quote from: stephaniec on March 21, 2014, 08:16:13 PM
It looks like you'll do fine, maybe a nose job for extra benefit , but maybe not necessary
See, I'm iffy on the nose. I really don't think it's that bad and only brought it up because others have mentioned it before. I'll probably hold off on doing a rhinoplasty until after I've seen what my face is like after the forehead contouring.


Quote from: Gandalf on March 21, 2014, 09:02:08 PM
Alaia: Your face looks similar to mine. HRT may move your soft tissues in a way that eventually will end up looking female. Mostly genetics, only time will tell. Your forehead is like mine, very "manly" but could potentially be hidden with a bangs sort of hairstyle. Be patient, I know the FFS docs say go for it but some people may get significant changes in soft tissue placement and shape from HRT.                                                       

This is why young men have better results from HRT alone.
Well most likely I'm going to be forced to be patient out of necessity. I'm guessing it'll take me a couple years to even save up for all of this. So hopefully HRT does work its wonders in the meantime.


Quote from: Aina on March 21, 2014, 10:38:13 PM
Alaia, that is about how my hairline is when I pull my hair back and really bums me out thinking about it when considering transitioning, but as False Princess said your face actually comes already looks pretty feminine I think you'll do fine.
Yeah, my hairline is what has me really bummed out as well. I may reclaim some of it on HRT though so fingers crossed. ;)



"Let yourself be silently drawn by the strange pull of what you really love. It will not lead you astray."

― Rumi
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930310

Quote from: Alaia on March 21, 2014, 08:05:06 PM
So I'm looking for some brutal honesty here. Should I look into FFS for my brow, hairline advancement, and cheekbones? What about rhinoplasty for my nose? I know I'll need a trachea shave eventually, fortunately that is covered by insurance. FFS however is not. So I'd like input on whether I'd see some huge improvements with any FFS procedures so I can plan on saving up for them now.

2 frontal and profile shots in different lighting:
(These are in male mode intentionally as I want to show how I look without makeup or contouring)





I ask about the hairline because this is what it looks like pulled back:


Here's how it looked several years ago when I had it long:



I'm really hoping HRT will turn out great for me (only 2 weeks into it) and makes FFS unnecessary. But some days I just have my doubts and have a hard time even catching a glimpse of the girl under the mask...   :-\
It's impossible to tell so early on. You have a fem/andro face now and maybe hormones will make FFS unneccessary. Anyways, I hope the best for you!
HRT on and off since January 20, 2014
Diagnosed with GD: March 2018

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Two Bodies/Same Soul

Quote from: 930310 on March 21, 2014, 09:53:38 AM
You seem a bit down and unhappy in your picture. Try smiling a bit more!

Yeah I suppose I do seem a little gloomy don't I. Today I tried rubbing in some liquid makeup that my mother had in the linen closet. Here are the results.









I am so lucky to be where I am! :)
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Ms Grace

Quote from: Alaia on March 21, 2014, 08:05:06 PM
So I'm looking for some brutal honesty here. Should I look into FFS for my brow, hairline advancement, and cheekbones? What about rhinoplasty for my nose? I know I'll need a trachea shave eventually, fortunately that is covered by insurance. FFS however is not. So I'd like input on whether I'd see some huge improvements with any FFS procedures so I can plan on saving up for them now.

I'm really hoping HRT will turn out great for me (only 2 weeks into it) and makes FFS unnecessary. But some days I just have my doubts and have a hard time even catching a glimpse of the girl under the mask...   :-\

Yes, give the HRT time to do its thing. You'll have a better idea in about six months. Maybe shape your eyebrows a bit and with a bit of hair styling you will be able to frame your face well. I have to say you have a wonderful jawline and from what I can see beautiful hands/fingers!
Grace
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Transition 1.0 (Julie): HRT 1989-91
Self-denial: 1991-2013
Transition 2.0 (Grace): HRT June 24 2013
Full-time: March 24, 2014 :D
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barbie

Yesterday on Saturday.









People in the street are no issue for me. Both men and women shout that I am too tall as a woman. My friends know that I am a dad, but some of them confess that they are still confused.

barbie~~
Just do it.
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stephaniec

Quote from: barbie on March 22, 2014, 04:00:44 PM
Yesterday on Saturday.









People in the street are no issue for me. Both men and women shout that I am too tall as a woman. My friends know that I am a dad, but some of them confess that they are still confused.

barbie~~
your quite the unique indiidual
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barbie

Quote from: stephaniec on March 22, 2014, 04:46:58 PM
your quite the unique indiidual

Yes. Many people said I am very unique, but they accept my appearance and feminine manner too well. Far better than I expected.



barbie~~
Just do it.
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V M

Bicycles!!!  8)  I love bicycles!!! Oh, and nice legs Barbie  :)  You are always lookin' great

Hugs
The main things to remember in life are Love, Kindness, Understanding and Respect - Always make forward progress

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- V M
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barbie

Quote from: V M on March 24, 2014, 12:49:05 AM
Bicycles!!!  8)  I love bicycles!!! Oh, and nice legs Barbie  :)  You are always lookin' great

Hugs

Yes. I once enjoyed cycling, but it took too much time from me. I need to take care of my kids in weekends. Instead I run nearly every day.

I have many friends who enjoy cycling and mountain biking. Yesterday I had dinner and several rounds of drinking together with the members of a local bicycle club here.



barbie~~
Just do it.
  • skype:barbie?call
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930310

Quote from: Two Bodies/Same Soul on March 22, 2014, 02:25:03 PM
Yeah I suppose I do seem a little gloomy don't I. Today I tried rubbing in some liquid makeup that my mother had in the linen closet. Here are the results.






Much better!
HRT on and off since January 20, 2014
Diagnosed with GD: March 2018

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Danniella

Hey all, another few update photos.

This weekend was the first time I went out in proper female mode! It was a friends housewarming party and almost all my friends and some family were there, so I thought "what the hell!"

Some people took photos of me while I was out, first time I have not been posing for my own girl mode photos, so hopefully they are a bit more "natural" looking.



(Me eyeing up the huge pile of cakes on the counter...Is it just me...or do the hormones make chocolate soooo much better!?)



(The infamous "What!? Nooooo I was doing noooothing!...why are you taking a photo of me!?)


(I don't really know why, but I really like this photo, even if I am looking sad and daydreamy, it's the most natural photo of me in girl mode out there. I can also hazard a guess as to what I was thinking at the time, and somebody catching it on camera is strangely touching...can you guess what I was thinking?)

Best part of the night? I was surrounded by people drinking various forms of alcohol, and I didn't touch a drop. I REALLY wanted to, but I resisted :)

It was a good weekend.

Thoughts/criticism welcome! <3
You say "Using humor as a defence mechanism" like it's a BAD thing!



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RobinGee

Danniella, you look really cute and so natural in these pictures!
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RobinGee

Well, here's another try.  This is just a boy mode shot, but my eyebrows are groomed a bit, and my hair is partly covering my forehead.

Can you see a woman in there?

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samantha.mich

Quote from: RobinTheAmazon on March 24, 2014, 07:10:42 AM
Well, here's another try.  This is just a boy mode shot, but my eyebrows are groomed a bit, and my hair is partly covering my forehead.

Can you see a woman in there?



Definitely see a woman with plenty of potential. You have nice face and I wish I had your lips! Would love to see you when you decide to wear makeup. :)
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Danniella

Quote from: RobinTheAmazon on March 24, 2014, 05:46:26 AM
Danniella, you look really cute and so natural in these pictures!

Thanks <3 All that time in female mode at home is paying off with my body language etc

...

Now I just need to remember and turn it off when I am in guy mode...got some strange looks when I was at the super market the other day, suddenly realised I was walking with my full female presentation movements! xD
You say "Using humor as a defence mechanism" like it's a BAD thing!



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Danniella

Quote from: AlyssaL on March 24, 2014, 09:21:41 AM
Hey Danniella,

You look great! I too love your third picture, it just sees so real and you look super cute!

I know what you mean about girl mode at home helping. I have been dressing almost every night at home for the past month and a half. I feel much more comfortable when I am out as Alyssa now. I still need to work on how I walk, talk, and stand, but it is coming along.

Last night when I was at my moms for dinner, I crossed my legs like a girl and immediately realized what I was doing... This double life things is tough.

Alyssa

Thanks ^^#

Yup the double life is haaaaaaard.

Worst thing I have done in terms of crossed wires so far was actually the morning after the party these were taken at. I was half way through my errands on the high street when I realised that I had completely forgotten to take off my BRIGHT RED NAIL POLISH!! xD

I'm pretty sure that if I had slammed my hands into my pockets with any more force, I would have torn a couple extra leg holes in my jeans! D:

Luckly my sister came to the rescue, and a couple minutes in a restroom stall later I was ready to go...still...can't help but go over all the times I handed over money or picked things up off shelves in front of people and wondering how many noticed ^^#
You say "Using humor as a defence mechanism" like it's a BAD thing!



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RobinGee


Quote from: samantha.mich on March 24, 2014, 09:03:58 AM
Definitely see a woman with plenty of potential. You have nice face and I wish I had your lips! Would love to see you when you decide to wear makeup. :)

Aw, thanks.  I'll post a pic as soon as I can do a makeup job that doesn't look like a four year old in Mommy's makeup.
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Danniella

Quote from: AlyssaL on March 24, 2014, 09:43:19 AM
Danniella - What bothered you about having the nail polish on in guy mode? Was it fear of people seeing you or was it fear of someone you know finding out? The reason I ask is that I love nail polish and hate having to take it off after less that 24 hours. I have started to leave it on over the weekend and if I have to go out in public, so be it. For me, I am just afraid that people I work with or my family I haven't told yet will find out.

Your sister sounds awesome by the way.

Alyssa

Hmmm...good question actually, I don't really know 0.o

Everybody in my life is aware I'm trans...and I'm not bothered what strangers think...maybe I didn't want some stranger questioning me on it and causing me grief or ruining my good day?? Maybe it's residual social programming??

Hmmm, I shall have to meditate on that question more to figure out my reasons why ^^

My sister is pretty awesome :) It took her a while to come round, but now that she understands it, she has been great. After rescuing me via the emergency nail polish delivery, she took me clothes shopping, because she is VERY fashion concious and just REFUSES to have me dress incorrectly :D (all in a jesting manner ofc)

But in all seriousness (I know hard right?) She has been amazing, I've really been able to bounce outfit and make-up ideas etc off of her and she can tell me in advance what will and wont work, what cuts and colours to avoid or search for etc. I'm learning so much so quickly with her.

I'm an artist by trade, so I love to experiment with compositions, fabrics, materials and colours in general. So I am really enjoying doing so with my clothing (guys clothing always bored me to tears)

I'm actually planning to start some courses on clothing alterations etc to take this to the next level, so together with her fashion savvy and my creative juices, I look forward to really pushing the envelope on what I can and can't get away with!

You never know, maybe their is a market for trans friendly clothing :D
You say "Using humor as a defence mechanism" like it's a BAD thing!



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Allyda

Quote from: barbie on March 22, 2014, 04:00:44 PM
Yesterday on Saturday.









People in the street are no issue for me. Both men and women shout that I am too tall as a woman. My friends know that I am a dad, but some of them confess that they are still confused.

barbie~~
Looking good girl!
Allyda
Full Time August 2009
HRT Dec 27 2013
VFS [ ? ]
FFS [ ? ]
SRS Spring 2015



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