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Will this stuff ever go away?

Started by Ethedon, May 15, 2014, 06:14:56 PM

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Ethedon

I'm two weeks post op and I've developed scar tissue under my incisions. It's very hard so I've been massaging it everyday. It's funny, I've never heard anybody mention scar tissue they only talk about their actual scars/incision. Will this go away over time or is this permanent? It isn't visible or painful maybe a little uncomfortable.
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David27

Probably not, I still have scar tissue areas that I have had surgery on. I used vitamin E lotion after my hip surgery to stop the scar from adheasing. I had surgery in June and didn't used the lotion until August September when I could walk without using a crutch (sans back back though). Be gentile while rubbing the scars, but make sure they are healed. I'm guessing 6 weeks plus would be when you could start this, but as your doctor how your scars are doing.
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Bimmer Guy

Quote from: Ethedon on May 15, 2014, 06:14:56 PM
I'm two weeks post op and I've developed scar tissue under my incisions. It's very hard so I've been massaging it everyday. It's funny, I've never heard anybody mention scar tissue they only talk about their actual scars/incision. Will this go away over time or is this permanent? It isn't visible or painful maybe a little uncomfortable.

How about putting up a picture on the top surgery recovery thread (the sticky thread)?  That would help us give you advice.
Top Surgery: 10/10/13 (Garramone)
Testosterone: 9/9/14
Hysto: 10/1/15
Stage 1 Meta: 3/2/16 (including UL, Vaginectomy, Scrotoplasty), (Crane, CA)
Stage 2 Meta: 11/11/16 Testicular implants, phallus and scrotum repositioning, v-nectomy revision.  Additional: Lipo on sides of chest. (Crane, TX)
Fistula Repair 12/21/17 (UPenn Hospital,unsuccessful)
Fistula Repair 6/7/18 (Nikolavsky, successful)
Revision: 1/11/19 Replacement of eroded testicle,  mons resection, cosmetic work on scrotum (Crane, TX)



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skyNoLimit

I actually used the essential body renewal created by Dr.Newman. I came across this because my friend in Los Angeles told me about it. I too worry about the scar tissues and the tape that was recommended doesn't really help me with that, I wanted something that can be rubbed in and that works. After using it, i think it works amazingly. The more i use it, the better my skin heals itself. I got mine from lesloveboat.com/shop Good luck with your scar, post healing is important.
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Bimmer Guy

Quote from: skyNoLimit on May 17, 2014, 07:55:18 AM
I actually used the essential body renewal created by Dr.Newman. I came across this because my friend in Los Angeles told me about it. I too worry about the scar tissues and the tape that was recommended doesn't really help me with that, I wanted something that can be rubbed in and that works. After using it, i think it works amazingly. The more i use it, the better my skin heals itself. I got mine from lesloveboat.com/shop Good luck with your scar, post healing is important.

I just read through the 3 products on this page.  I would suggest individuals rethink purchasing this.  It indicates that it is for skin renewal, which your body is already going to do.  I assume that you are thinking that this will lighten scars.  First of all, they don't even tell you the ingredients.  Secondly, medical studies have shown over and over again the only ingredient that improves scars is silicone.  Full stop.  Additionally, the advertisement doesn't even claim to have anything to do with scars, just with wound healing.

The "Reserve" product is for sure useless.  If people needed a product to counteract the effect that of testosterone has on the body (thickening of the blood), then all bio men would have to take it.

The ingredient they are touting in the "Reserve" product is the reservatrol.  Pick it up at a grocery store in the supplement aisle for $8.00.  That is probably the quality of the reservatrol they are using in this product.

I hate when I see something that is just to take advantage of people.  Especially transguys since often as a group they are  in a lower socioeconomic class than cis people.  It ticks me off.

I would suggest finding a silicone product, any product that has silicone in it (Target brand fine if you can't pay for the more expensive ones), for scar healing (Mederma does not have silicone and has not been shown to help with scar healing per medical studies).

Trust me, I have done oodles of research in the medical literature.  I bet I have read most of the studies on scar tx.  The problem is that people are never able to deduce whether it is just length of time or the product that makes a difference in healing/scar lightening.  That is why we have to use medical research to tell us what really works.

skyNoLimit, I would be very curious to know what is in this product.  Maybe it has silicone in it, but you are paying an arm and a leg for it.

Check out the Top Surger Recovery thread (the sticky at the top of the FTM page), for advice/suggestions on scar treatment use, if your goal is for lightening of scars.
Top Surgery: 10/10/13 (Garramone)
Testosterone: 9/9/14
Hysto: 10/1/15
Stage 1 Meta: 3/2/16 (including UL, Vaginectomy, Scrotoplasty), (Crane, CA)
Stage 2 Meta: 11/11/16 Testicular implants, phallus and scrotum repositioning, v-nectomy revision.  Additional: Lipo on sides of chest. (Crane, TX)
Fistula Repair 12/21/17 (UPenn Hospital,unsuccessful)
Fistula Repair 6/7/18 (Nikolavsky, successful)
Revision: 1/11/19 Replacement of eroded testicle,  mons resection, cosmetic work on scrotum (Crane, TX)



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Ethedon

I've been massaging the scar tissue with bio oil twice a day for about an hr on each side. I'm not too much worried about my incisions right now because the scar tissue is under my skin and is uncomfortable. Massaging the scar tissue seems to be working. It's really breaking it down slowly. I will eventually get silicone strips or a silicone based lubricant for the actual scars.
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aleon515

Quote from: Ethedon on May 17, 2014, 12:53:22 PM
I've been massaging the scar tissue with bio oil twice a day for about an hr on each side. I'm not too much worried about my incisions right now because the scar tissue is under my skin and is uncomfortable. Massaging the scar tissue seems to be working. It's really breaking it down slowly. I will eventually get silicone strips or a silicone based lubricant for the actual scars.

I don't believe bio oil has any evidence that it works at all. Might be just him, but the one person I know to have used it has not very good looking scars and lots of stretching. I would get to getting the silicone strips or something. But you will always have scars. I think that the scars tend to lighten up over time.

--Jay
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Bimmer Guy

Quote from: aleon515 on May 17, 2014, 07:35:17 PM
I don't believe bio oil has any evidence that it works at all. Might be just him, but the one person I know to have used it has not very good looking scars and lots of stretching. I would get to getting the silicone strips or something. But you will always have scars. I think that the scars tend to lighten up over time.

--Jay

Correct, Bio Oil is not a good choice.  There is no medical testing that has proved its usefulness.  On the contrary, there are concerns about the ingredients in the product being bad for our health.  I twice posted a link on this in the Top Surgery Recovery thread.
Top Surgery: 10/10/13 (Garramone)
Testosterone: 9/9/14
Hysto: 10/1/15
Stage 1 Meta: 3/2/16 (including UL, Vaginectomy, Scrotoplasty), (Crane, CA)
Stage 2 Meta: 11/11/16 Testicular implants, phallus and scrotum repositioning, v-nectomy revision.  Additional: Lipo on sides of chest. (Crane, TX)
Fistula Repair 12/21/17 (UPenn Hospital,unsuccessful)
Fistula Repair 6/7/18 (Nikolavsky, successful)
Revision: 1/11/19 Replacement of eroded testicle,  mons resection, cosmetic work on scrotum (Crane, TX)



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Ethedon

I only use it to break up the scar tissue not my incisions. I'll use it until the scar tissue is gone then I'll focus more on my incision scar.
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