You could get hair transplants to fill in that area. If you're planning on having FFS though you'd probably have to wait until you got it done. I'm probably going to get maybe 3000 grafts done. Just trying to decide whether to go for the FUT or FUE method. Basically FUT leaves a massive scar at the back of your head, but FUE requires you to shave parts of your head (not an easy option for me).

Hugs

Charlotte

Streighteners. (cant use em for my lifes sake)

Also you can put your hair this way or that, but the angle hair comes out of your head can effect the over all presentation too.

For a new style to fall in, it needs to be maintained, so the hairs start to adopt the new angle over time, wet styleing takes some of the spring away and hair sprays help hold the hairs in place.

The itching we get after using a hair spray is what happens when your hair is like im supposed to be in that directon.

Has changed my natrual parting this way more then once

If you want that hair style you're going to need healthier hair. No offense, but yours looks rather brittle and porous. Invest in a professional shampoo / conditioner combo and use it for a couple months. Also, eat more protein if you have been avoiding it.

Quote from: Alainaluvsu on May 26, 2014, 04:10:48 PM
If you want that hair style you're going to need healthier hair. No offense, but yours looks rather brittle and porous. Invest in a professional shampoo / conditioner combo and use it for a couple months. Also, eat more protein if you have been avoiding it.

I agree. In addition You should be taking a good women's multivitamin along with a good hair, skin, and nails vitamin. The condition of your nails often mirrors the condition of your hair. I take these and my nails are like knives -hard, sharp, and healthy, likewise my hair hasn't gotten even one split end since my last trim over 3 months ago. I don't get any hairs in my brush or combs anymore either. You can see the difference in my hair as well vs. it's condition a year ago. I do attribute a lot of my hair's recovery to the Avodart I take, along with my other hrt meds, however the above mentioned vitamins in combination with I know have a lot to do with it because I started taking these before hrt.

Best wishes!

Ally

This is a good idea!  My hair and nails are becoming super brittle! Vitamins might be the answer. 

Quote from: Lara the Lover and the Fighter on May 28, 2014, 10:50:04 AM
This is a good idea!  My hair and nails are becoming super brittle! Vitamins might be the answer.

I take the "One Source" women's daily, and the AppleNutrition Hair Skin & Nails vitamins. These seem to work really well for me in conjunction with my hrt, and you can get these at Wal-Mart, both for around $22.00. Each has 100 vitamins so they last about 3 months. You'll be very surprised at the difference in your hair and nails, as well as overall health.

Ally

Quote from: Allyda on May 29, 2014, 09:29:01 PM
I take the "One Source" women's daily, and the AppleNutrition Hair Skin & Nails vitamins. These seem to work really well for me in conjunction with my hrt, and you can get these at Wal-Mart, both for around $22.00. Each has 100 vitamins so they last about 3 months. You'll be very surprised at the difference in your hair and nails, as well as overall health.

Ally

Thanks so much!  Ive been looking pretty hardcore and have found nothing. :/

Im going to give this a try.

Quote from: Lara the Lover and the Fighter on May 30, 2014, 04:53:15 PM

Thanks so much!  Ive been looking pretty hardcore and have found nothing. :/

Im going to give this a try.

No problem, glad I could help. Just make sure you get the right hair skin and nails vitamin. It comes in a white box stating the brand and what it is on the front. You shouldn't have any trouble finding it.

My hair is a big issue with me, my being Native American and female, and when I started losing patches on the top left right side of my head I cried myself to sleep at night. I started taking these vitamins and they brought it almost to a standstill, and of course after I started my hrt I began to get my hair back. Now 5 months later I've a lot of new growth I can onlt attribute to those vitamins and my hrt.

All My Best Wishes!

Ally

Quote from: Allyda on May 27, 2014, 11:58:58 AM
I agree. In addition You should be taking a good women's multivitamin along with a good hair, skin, and nails vitamin. The condition of your nails often mirrors the condition of your hair. I take these and my nails are like knives -hard, sharp, and healthy, likewise my hair hasn't gotten even one split end since my last trim over 3 months ago.

This is absolutely true. They're both primarily made from the same protein, keratin.

Quote from: Lara the Lover and the Fighter on May 28, 2014, 10:50:04 AM
This is a good idea!  My hair and nails are becoming super brittle! Vitamins might be the answer. 

This is a very good long term plan, but don't be discouraged if your hair doesn't change in the first few weeks or anything. The hair that's grown out of your scalp are a collection of dead cells. Nothing you feed it will make that any different. Therefore, any nutritional deficiencies you are correcting by supplements will not be shown until the new growth is being pushed out. Hair grows an average length of 1/2" a month. You'd be looking at months before seeing any changes in your overall hair health. But, try a B-vitamin complex (important) and Vitamin D.

However, there's no getting around it. You WILL need keratin to grow healthy hair. Supplements may cause complications when dealing with protein. Too much protein can lead to many complications in the body, not to mention it can cause your body to not process it well anymore. It's really best to get it from meat.

For now, try good shampoo / conditioner combos if you can or get a keratin treatment at your salon (expensive but lasts for 2-3 months). Do not go with Garnier or anything like that, but the stuff you get at salons (I use Biolage, personally). DON'T GET ANYTHING SCENTED, as these have additives that attach to your hair and are not good for it.

Alainaluvsu,

You mention getting Keratin from meat. Which type of meat do you get it from? I only ask because I don't eat red meat or pork. I eat only fish/seafood, or poultry/fowl. I'm just wondering if I'm getting any Keratin from these sources?

Thanks

Ally

I think yes, fish are a source of keratin, as well as lean meat (not red I guess), and liver  (BLEAH)

Quote from: Emily29 on June 04, 2014, 10:08:26 PM
I think yes, fish are a source of keratin, as well as lean meat (not red I guess), and liver  (BLEAH)

I second your sentiment toward liver Emily -Bleah!!! Nasty stuff. Good catfish bait though, lol!

Ally

Quote from: Alainaluvsu on June 04, 2014, 04:46:53 AM
Do not go with Garnier or anything like that, but the stuff you get at salons (I use Biolage, personally).

Rats, shampoos and sleek an' shine conditioners only thing I've been using for months.  sigh..

My sister and mom (that are natal women btw), both have the M shape, even though it's not like big, I mean they have small foreheads, and their hairline is definately not receding... But there are women with an M shape...

Quote from: CandiceSkirvin on June 05, 2014, 12:40:01 AM
I have seen plenty of women with recessed hair at temples and the M shape hairline.  I don't believe an m shaped hairline is actually a sexually dimorphic trait. It may be more common in males, but there are many females with the same trait.

Ditto. I myself don't have one, but I know many girls and women that do including my SO. So I agree, while it's more common in men, some women do have a less prominent M shaped hairline.

Ally

Quote from: Allyda on June 04, 2014, 09:45:47 PM
Alainaluvsu,

You mention getting Keratin from meat. Which type of meat do you get it from? I only ask because I don't eat red meat or pork. I eat only fish/seafood, or poultry/fowl. I'm just wondering if I'm getting any Keratin from these sources?

Thanks

Ally

Fish and Yogurt are good sources for Keratin.

Quote from: Emily29 on June 05, 2014, 12:03:15 AM
My sister and mom (that are natal women btw), both have the M shape, even though it's not like big, I mean they have small foreheads, and their hairline is definately not receding... But there are women with an M shape...

A classic M shape that men tend to have is much less common in women (but it does happen). It's generally due to a rise in testosterone as it is an indicator of MPB (which can occur during pregnancy). Women do typically get a slight bit of hair loss at the corners, but usually not a total loss, more like a large area of thinning. Female alopecia tends do occur over a large area and is not really focal towards the front or the crown.

Thanks I appreciate the info.

Ally

Well my sister is just 19 and she has a slight M shape line, and she's never been pregnant, and she's very feminine looking too and I don't think it's just a male thing...

I'd like to differentiate between a true M shape:



Corner Loss:



and a heart shaped face:



As you can see, corner loss can lead to an M shape, but there is no real loss going towards the center of the forehead to indicate a Q ball effect coming in. A heart shaped face is simply when the natural hair line grows in a way that makes the face look heart shaped. It's very rare for women to lose their hair in a male pattern effect, thereby giving them the classic M. They generally lose the corners first, then an all around thinning starting with the top (not the crown) of the head. MPB is called MPB for a reason. It's usually seen in men (as a result of DHT choking the follicle), and it has a couple of primary patterns. In fact, the technical term for MPB is Androgenic Alopecia.

Here's an illustration of how women typically lose hair:

Quote from: Alainaluvsu on June 06, 2014, 11:30:01 PM

Holy poop.  I would hate to be type....well any of them.  Darn.

Even the drawing looks so sad.