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Do you transition because you love yourself OR because you want to love yourself

Started by Evelyn K, June 17, 2014, 06:48:22 PM

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Evelyn K

Quote from: Evelyn K on June 17, 2014, 08:49:37 PM
Wow. So it seems for many it was a matter of self preservation. For me it was never about admonishing what I was as a male or the necessity to survive. For me, it is - because - I love myself that I wanted to transcend. I find beauty trumps handsomeness and I wanted to elevate to the more fragile and graceful version of me. I guess it's an odd self idealized way for me to become more fiercely protective of myself because of this recognized beauty and vulnerability.

In that sense my answer would be yes, I am transitioning *because* I love myself so much.

I can't see doing anything that would put me in harms way. That's why I'm probably too pure. Maybe too much for my own good. ;D

(^^ piggybacking)

So far I seem to be in the extreme minority.

Maybe I'm transitioning for the wrong reasons.

Oh not that I'm reconsidering. But the many examples here seem much more profound and life mitigating than my admittingly egocentric reasons.
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Cindy

Maybe to take a successful transition you need to be able to potentially give up everything.

Sometimes you can only do that when you have no alternative.
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Ms Grace

Well I didn't hate myself, but I did hate being male and everything that came with that.
Grace
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Transition 1.0 (Julie): HRT 1989-91
Self-denial: 1991-2013
Transition 2.0 (Grace): HRT June 24 2013
Full-time: March 24, 2014 :D
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FalseHybridPrincess

I  started transition  cause I would hate myself  so much I couldnt  even function in my everyday activities
I still feel that hate though , just not that much
http://falsehybridprincess.tumblr.com/
Follow me and I ll do your dishes.

Also lets be friends on fb :D
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immortal gypsy

Because I love and respect myself. Healthy body and a healthy mind, now the body is in the process of matching the mind I am happy. I no it may not be an easy ride, that I may have to give up everything, that it won't make me popular. In essance I am still the same person but now my body finally matches my brain and that is all I would really ask for
Do not fear those who have nothing left to lose, fear those who are prepared to lose it all

Si vis bellum, parra pacem
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Jenny07

So long and thanks for all the fish
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DolceFragola

Quote from: Evelyn K on June 18, 2014, 03:55:40 AM
(^^ piggybacking)

So far I seem to be in the extreme minority.

Maybe I'm transitioning for the wrong reasons.

Oh not that I'm reconsidering. But the many examples here seem much more profound and life mitigating than my admittingly egocentric reasons.
If you are okay with what you do, they're not the wrong reasons.
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Sammy

I sometimes wonder if I went for it to spam Susan's with daily threads and flashy signature gifs. But luckily, I got over that phase quite quickly.
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Hikari

I am doing it for one reason, I am selfish. I love myself and I want to be happy and that drives my world view of long term selfishness. Simply put in the long run, I couldn't be happy without transition. Likely in a moment of weakness I wouldn't survive as male.

All of my actions have the same motivation though to be as selfish as possible in the long run.
15 years on Susans, where has all the time gone?
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AnnaCannibal

No, you're not alone in feeling that way.  There are a myriad of other reasons, but the one you listed is definitely the most prevalent.
Is it progression if a cannibal uses a fork?
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Alainaluvsu

Quote from: Evelyn K on June 17, 2014, 08:49:37 PM
Wow. So it seems for many it was a matter of self preservation. For me it was never about admonishing what I was as a male or the necessity to survive. For me, it is - because - I love myself that I wanted to transcend. I find beauty trumps handsomeness and I wanted to elevate to the more fragile and graceful version of me. I guess it's an odd self idealized way for me to become more fiercely protective of myself because of this recognized beauty and vulnerability.

Ok, Lady Gaga :D

I did it because I got tired of wishing I did before. I got sick of torturing myself
To dream of the person you would like to be is to waste the person you are.



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JulieBlair

Quote from: Evelyn K on June 17, 2014, 08:49:37 PM
Wow. So it seems for many it was a matter of self preservation. For me it was never about admonishing what I was as a male or the necessity to survive. For me, it is - because - I love myself that I wanted to transcend. I find beauty trumps handsomeness and I wanted to elevate to the more fragile and graceful version of me. I guess it's an odd self idealized way for me to become more fiercely protective of myself because of this recognized beauty and vulnerability.

In that sense my answer would be yes, I am transitioning *because* I love myself so much.

I can't see doing anything that would put me in harms way. That's why I'm probably too pure. Maybe too much for my own good. ;D

Know what?  I love you too.  I don't recommend transitioning to anyone who can reasonable expect to be happy in another way.  I think that is why I admire those who are successful with low level HRT, and manage to keep their relationships and families intact.

As with others for me transition was an existential necessity, but was also an expression of love for the girl inside that had been ignored/repressed/denied/lost for so very long.  I did not love my male persona, but I love Julie!  She is a lovely, gentle, and beautiful soul.  That she is who I am is an honor and a delight.  I am happy!  What a wonderful experience.

(and to Alainaluvsu, Gaga, is awesome!)

Julie
I am my own best friend and my own worst enemy.  :D
Full Time 18 June 2014
Esprit can be found at http://espritconf.com/
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Miharu Barbie

I love myself because I love myself.  (I love you Miharu! I love you! I love you! I love you!)

I transitioned because for me, for the unique individual human that I happen to be, life as a woman in the world is so much more JOYFUL than life lived in any other way. 

I learned a very long time ago that the measure of success is the amount of JOY achieved in my life.  Nothing, for me, is more important than to seek JOY wherever I may find it.

(Did I mention that I love myself.  :-* )
FEAR IS NOT THE BOSS OF ME!!!


HRT:                         June 1998
Full Time For Good:     November 1998
Never Looking Back:  Now!
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Evelyn K

Quote from: JulieBlair on June 18, 2014, 11:13:06 AM
Know what?  I love you too.  I don't recommend transitioning to anyone who can reasonable expect to be happy in another way.  I think that is why I admire those who are successful with low level HRT, and manage to keep their relationships and families intact.

As with others for me transition was an existential necessity, but was also an expression of love for the girl inside that had been ignored/repressed/denied/lost for so very long.  I did not love my male persona, but I love Julie!  She is a lovely, gentle, and beautiful soul.  That she is who I am is an honor and a delight.  I am happy!  What a wonderful experience.

(and to Alainaluvsu, Gaga, is awesome!)

Julie

Julie I totally get, "the expression of love for the girl inside." Nascent girly habits has probably helped lead me along this path, there was no doubt 'she' was humming a lullaby to me all these years. But it was never a belting driving song akin to Celine Dion. Maybe I should thank her for letting me experience and succeed as a male on my own time while dropping hints of where I may want to go next.

For that I am grateful to 'Evelyn' and thankful for her, as 'Evelyn' is to me.
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Evelyn K

Quote from: Miharu Barbie on June 18, 2014, 11:28:07 AM
I love myself because I love myself.  (I love you Miharu! I love you! I love you! I love you!)

I transitioned because for me, for the unique individual human that I happen to be, life as a woman in the world is so much more JOYFUL than life lived in any other way. 

I learned a very long time ago that the measure of success is the amount of JOY achieved in my life.  Nothing, for me, is more important than to seek JOY wherever I may find it.

(Did I mention that I love myself.  :-* )

You and me alike! Did I mention I want to marry myself... :D
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JulieBlair

I am my own best friend and my own worst enemy.  :D
Full Time 18 June 2014
Esprit can be found at http://espritconf.com/
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EllieM


Survival. Seems to be a theme. Every mirrored surface in my environment, every piece of chrome, every puddle, every shop window taunted me. I had reached the end of my rope and was fashioning that end into a noose with which to end the pain. Ellie was screaming from within me like an actor on the Stratford stage, NO NO NO STOP THIS! So. Finally. I accepted who I truly am, I accepted the standing offer from my therapist, I ended the reign of terror imposed upon me by the gonads of my birth. Ellie emerged, breathing easier, smiling serenely. 
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Princess Rachel

I had a long painful & meaningless existence before I transitioned, now I have a life and I'm loving being me :)


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Miharu Barbie

Quote from: Evelyn K on June 18, 2014, 12:00:27 PM
You and me alike! Did I mention I want to marry myself... :D

That explains a lot!  I knew there was some reason that I feel drawn to you, but I couldn't explain it. 

Joy seekers of a feather flock together.   :D
FEAR IS NOT THE BOSS OF ME!!!


HRT:                         June 1998
Full Time For Good:     November 1998
Never Looking Back:  Now!
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BunnyBee

I transitioned to survive.  That is the only reason I did it.   Turns out I got this side benefit of learning to love myself through the process, but that really was not the reason I did it.  I didn't even know how to love myself or that it was something I needed in my life until I started feeling it for the first time.
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