Hi all,

I froze my sperm in Paris before starting HRT. All seemed good and well, except that by law any medical assistance for procreation, including handing back the frozen sperm, is allowed only for a man/woman couple. I am really bummed now, because that means I would not be able to get it back with my GF as is. Any chances for the law changing in the next 10 years are really bad, so let's not talk about that. The only exit to this problem I see, is not changing my ID at all, and pretending in 5 years time when we get back there, that am a manly man.

You see, having M on the ID might not be enough, maybe I'll need to keep and old ID with old name and pic all this time, and pretend to be a man when I get to the hospital. How to do that after HRT for 5 years or more and FFS? Am feeling really bad now, me and my GF wanted to be able to carry on with this subject normally, this really sucks am feeling really down .

If you live in France can you not get on the train to London and store it there perhaps, or is it not allowed. I hope it turns out well for you as I can empathise with wanting more children in a few years

Hi ganjina

I'm from one of your neighbouring country and the situation sounds a little familiar, even if some doctors here will possibly do it in the near future. When I froze it, I was given the advice that it is here possible to get the samples and travel to another country. Perhabs you can check, if this is also an option for you? When I remember correctly then it is possible for lesbian couples in the Netherlands or in Spain.

Hugs Deedo 

Thanks for the practical advice, neat!

Am not living in France damn, am in Colombia (half-French, half-Colombian) and my flight leaves on monday. I only got to learn about this issue today. Here are the options I suppose?

A) So it seems likely that I will have to come back again (and spend another 1k EUR in flight, damn it the FFS looks further away than ever!) then take a train to, say, Spain and do the procedure right. That would mean I'd have to put off HRT until then :S. Damn, more months of waiting time, I do not really like that, it's been delayed long enough as is, I can only blame myself!!!  Sounds like the safest option where I'd get extra dosis of Sperm to be frozen, not a bad thing, yet psychologically trying option. I feel every passing month my body gets more and more structurally male.

B) I wonder if it is reasonable to take some of the sperm dosis to Spain for safekeeping in a few months, without necessarily delaying the HRT. Or is it rash? I only have 10 of them (cannot store more in France) and supposedly, the chances of pregnancy are about 50% for an average woman. I'd go there in a few months when I get a cheap flight to France again, go in boy mode without any fail chances and take the sperm and transport it to Spain and leave it there.

C) Take a low dosis HRT with no or low T-blockers, then go to Spain in a few months and give a full dosis of sperm there. What would be the risks of producing bad quality sperm? No clue, I mean can I take E without anti-T, or what's the deal?

Edit: D) My very supportive dad said, what I should do, is the following: renew my French ID in a couple years with my girly girl face, no makeup though, and keep the same legal sex and manly man name. Then go to the hospital whenever I feel like it, dress a suit and tie, keep hair short if needed, put some breasts binders, show them my all male ID with male name and with the girly face, talk like a boy, and ask for my stuff and period. They will not have any reasonable or legal reason to doubt anything and legally speaking, I will be all male no matter how girly my face is. Male ID, male name, male dressing, male voice, a girly face and no breasts showing. A girly face will not mean I am a female and I will be for all purposes and matters that day, be a full, legal male with its male rights, and a girly face, which none will care about. Sounds like a good plan? How risky would it be? How male fail can you be when your ID, name, clothes and voice all scream MALE? How much?

Any advice or experience would be greatly welcome.