Quote from: mac1 on June 23, 2014, 07:20:02 PM
Sorry that I used the term, "real women", in a manner that was misunderstood by some of you.  It was used as a complement toward those who are fortunate enough to live and present themselves openly as women whether cis or other.  It was not intended as derogatory toward anybody.

I respect and am envious of those of you who have been fortunate enough to live your lives as full time women whether or not you have undergone a full surgical transition.

Again, sorry for the misunderstanding. I respect all of you.

Okay, cool. It's just that sometimes, things can be easily misunderstood since we are communicating only through text. But it's good that you cleared that up.

I looked somewhat like a boy for most of my life, and I had a deep voice, and I was lots and lots of times confronted in women's restrooms. Most of the time people thought I had made a mistake. They would sheepishly inform me that I was in the wrong bathroom. Sometimes I just finished my business and let them think they were right, and sometimes I corrected them or argued with them. I do think we have culturally made a mountain out of a molehill with the perceived threat of men using women's facilities. A lot more suffering is caused by this idea about danger than is caused by the actual danger itself.

Quote from: Laura Squirrel on June 23, 2014, 09:22:22 PM
Okay, cool. It's just that sometimes, things can be easily misunderstood since we are communicating only through text. But it's good that you cleared that up.

Friends, you will probably have noted the humour in my post which precipitated this kerfuffle. Let's be honest, transition is a weird process, and I have chosen to deal with mine with as much humour as possible, as the alternative makes my head hurt.

We're all women in our own way, and there's no need to seek absolute purity (if such a thing can even exist!) through over-zealous thought, dress and behaviour.  Now, I need to go and put on my makeup, as I have a meeting.  Makeup is my choice; others may consider it a societal imposition

Hugs to y'all
Julia