And that's exactly what I'm looking for - the things you go through that you wouldn't if you'd been born a girl.
It's one thing to say 'I don't feel cheated, I feel great.' and to acknowledge that there are things you missed out for being trans.
I'm not saying people should be throwing a pity party for themselves, just want to know if anyone else has felt cheated by this.

Posted on: September 06, 2007, 06:17:50 PM

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Quote from: Cindi Jones on September 06, 2007, 03:01:50 AM
Hey, face it.  We were cheated.  No bones about it.

The big question now is... what do we do about it?

Cindi

There's really nothing to do but live our lives as best we can. Maybe once I look like a man, I will have a better outlook on life, but even then - I will never be the same as natal men. Anybody who thinks they are the same as their target sex are fooling themselves.

Quote from: Nero on September 06, 2007, 05:21:00 PM


There's really nothing to do but live our lives as best we can. Maybe once I look like a man, I will have a better outlook on life, but even then - I will never be the same as natal men. Anybody who thinks they are the same as their target sex are fooling themselves.

By that same token, anyone who thinks they are less than their target gender is trudging a pretty dusty road.  We're the same, but different too.  And those differences can be beautiful and interesting in their own right if you learn to let them be.

i have everything i ever wanted now.  how could i feel cheated?

Not cheated......frustrated more like, as it's so difficult to access treatment in the U.K

Quote from: SarahFaceDoom on September 06, 2007, 08:55:45 PM

Quote from: Nero on September 06, 2007, 05:21:00 PM


There's really nothing to do but live our lives as best we can. Maybe once I look like a man, I will have a better outlook on life, but even then - I will never be the same as natal men. Anybody who thinks they are the same as their target sex are fooling themselves.

By that same token, anyone who thinks they are less than their target gender is trudging a pretty dusty road.  We're the same, but different too.  And those differences can be beautiful and interesting in their own right if you learn to let them be.

Acknowledging that we're different from cisgendered men and women does not mean we are saying we are less than.

At times I do.  Would have liked to be a normal person (whatever that means) without the silliness I had to endure.  I just want the same things other ppl want but cant have because of my condition (wrong body).

Quote from: Nero on September 08, 2007, 03:15:17 PM

Quote from: SarahFaceDoom on September 06, 2007, 08:55:45 PM

Quote from: Nero on September 06, 2007, 05:21:00 PM


There's really nothing to do but live our lives as best we can. Maybe once I look like a man, I will have a better outlook on life, but even then - I will never be the same as natal men. Anybody who thinks they are the same as their target sex are fooling themselves.

By that same token, anyone who thinks they are less than their target gender is trudging a pretty dusty road.  We're the same, but different too.  And those differences can be beautiful and interesting in their own right if you learn to let them be.

Acknowledging that we're different from cisgendered men and women does not mean we are saying we are less than.

Exactly.  So how can you really be cheated?  Cheated implies something was taken from you and you are left with less than.  But nothing was taken from you, and you're not less than.  Our differences with cisgendered folk are just that...differences.  They don't have anything extra, or we anything less.

I would only feel cheated if I were forced to live out the rest of my life in torture, unsure of gender and hardly able to live off most foods and have osteoporosis, without the possibility to fix my body or get a new one overall. I think dreaming of something like that, and then going for it in the fullest and spending your whole life and ambition on doing so (especially when we're not light years away from the technology, and THEN dying without progress is cheated.

As for being born this way... I have no idea. If I didn't rip open my head to my own preferences I have before me, I'd still be a hyperactive little boy who could care less about running away and jumping into traffic. My 3 year old self.

So I guess that "I" might not BE ABLE to feel cheated cause the "I" wouldn't exist if it weren't for all of this dumb stuff.

no i don't. it was my destiny to arrive at this point and, though there has been much suffering along the way, i wouldn't trade where i am just now with anybody. 

I felt cheated years ago when I was very young. There was not too much I could do about my situation. I have lived as a girl so long now that the only thing I have missed is a vagina. That little problem will be fixed soon.

In all honesty we have all been cheated out of something. It is what you do for yourself to break loose from the pain. No one else is going to do it for you.

Deb

Yea.... cheated by the so called 'experts' who turn out to be 'non experts' within the NHS gender dysphoria clinic system in the U.K....and cheated out of not being able to get treatment in over 7 years...

Cheated in the fact that treatment is very limited in my country..