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When you appear in your dreams, what gender are you?

Started by Julia-Madrid, July 28, 2014, 06:24:37 AM

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Danniella

Quote from: Julia-Madrid on July 30, 2014, 08:15:32 AM
Thanks so much for that Danniella.... will investigate :D
No problem ^^

You know...I never thought about it before, but I bet lucid dreaming could be an interesting therapy technique for questioning/transitioning trans people...or those wishing to explore gender identity on a different level...

Or just a dysphoria worsening mess when you eventually wake up (which happens to me sometimes :( )

I'll maybe write a article about it one day or something, with a specific trans related slant on it... could be interesting ^^
You say "Using humor as a defence mechanism" like it's a BAD thing!



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EchelonHunt

I have been male, female, both and neither in my dreams. A majority of the time, I have been neither but trying to attach a penis (dildo) to my body to make it "real". It never worked, which seems to be my subconscious's manner of saying, "Look! You are trying to be something you are not!" because when I realized I identify as agender/genderless instead of male, those dreams suddenly made so much sense... it was weird!

The weirdest thing was being biologically female, mistakenly believing myself to be male due to a birth condition where my genitals looked more masculine than feminine... my first sexual dream I had was being a man having sex with a woman. :o It shouldn't be surprising but it was to me at the time!
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Eris

I think I may give this WILD method a try, it would be nice to dream again.
On the few occasions (I could count on both hands the number of times) that I've dreamt in the last 8 years, I've not known what gender I was, I was just a spectator with a sort of floating camera perspective.
I refuse to live in fear! Come hell or high water I will not back down! I will live my life!
But you have no life.
Ha. Even that won't stop me.

I will protect even those I hate, so long as it is right.



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Riley Skye

I never have a gender and often times not even a percievable body in my dreams so I can't answer this question :3
Love and peace are eternal
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Ravensong

I don't usually remember my dreams, or what gender I am in them.

But....

In April I had an interesting dream.  It started with me heading to work (I am a medic/first responder/security officer) when I happen by a wedding party prepping for a wedding.  The Maid of Honor is going into labor, so I help her until EMS arrives and takes her to the hospital.  I am asked to step in as the Maid of Honor.  I hesitate, knowing I have work, but am offered over a day's pay by the groom to fill in.  Miraculously, the MoH's dress fits me like a glove.  I fill in during the ceremony as if I had been the MoH all along.  Then I still act as the MoH at the reception, giving the toast and all.  Then I was dancing.  At the end I ended up with two hot guys in my (when did I get one?) hotel room (reception was in the hotel), and woke up just before it got steamy. 

I didn't know anyone of the characters in my dream, except my brother, whom I had not spoken to for at least a year and a half, somehow was in the crowd of guests at the ceremony (and only there).

Keep in mind I am still pretty much in the closet, very masculine in build and voice, and just starting my transition process. This dream happened actually, less than a week before my first psych appointment.  Also at the time of the dream, I have had little (but not no) interest in guys.
"You may be whatever you resolve to be."   -Thomas J. "Stonewall" Jackson
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Illuminess

I've had a number of lucid dreams over the years. Those are the best. Honestly, I never want to wake up when I'm in one. All that control over your environment and awareness of an illusory reality is like a sci-fi fantasy come true.

If you connect a living brain to a virtual reality simulation it won't be able to determine the difference between reality and the false environment, so how do we know we're not in The Matrix?!  8)
△ ☾ Rıνεя Aяıп Lαυяıε ☽ △

"Despair holds a sweetness that only an artist's tongue can taste."Illuminess
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Jill F

Quote from: sororcaeli on July 30, 2014, 08:02:16 PM
I've had a number of lucid dreams over the years. Those are the best. Honestly, I never want to wake up when I'm in one. All that control over your environment and awareness of an illusory reality is like a sci-fi fantasy come true.

If you connect a living brain to a virtual reality simulation it won't be able to determine the difference between reality and the false environment, so how do we know we're not in The Matrix?!   8)

We should ask Lana Wachowski.
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Eris

Quote from: sororcaeli on July 30, 2014, 08:02:16 PM
If you connect a living brain to a virtual reality simulation it won't be able to determine the difference between reality and the false environment, so how do we know we're not in The Matrix?!  8)

Oh no, the dream is collapsing!  :o
I refuse to live in fear! Come hell or high water I will not back down! I will live my life!
But you have no life.
Ha. Even that won't stop me.

I will protect even those I hate, so long as it is right.



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Illuminess

△ ☾ Rıνεя Aяıп Lαυяıε ☽ △

"Despair holds a sweetness that only an artist's tongue can taste."Illuminess
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Julia-Madrid

Quote from: Danniella on July 30, 2014, 08:26:53 AM
No problem ^^

You know...I never thought about it before, but I bet lucid dreaming could be an interesting therapy technique for questioning/transitioning trans people...or those wishing to explore gender identity on a different level...

Or just a dysphoria worsening mess when you eventually wake up (which happens to me sometimes :( )

I'll maybe write a article about it one day or something, with a specific trans related slant on it... could be interesting ^^

Hmmmmm... actually I think it's a VERY interesting idea.  But you'd need to have a pretty robust mind before embarking on this!
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Yulaiyre

When I was early in my transition, i dreamt myself as male, middle way through i dream of myself as being a transsexual, now it alternates between transsexual and female.
I can't believe I made this up myself!
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Danniella

Quote from: Julia-Madrid on July 31, 2014, 01:03:29 AM
Hmmmmm... actually I think it's a VERY interesting idea.  But you'd need to have a pretty robust mind before embarking on this!

...yeah...

So last night as an "experiment" I used WILD to induce a lucid dream...then decided to try and see if I could conjure up an experience of going through SRS (because of how much I have been reading Monkeymel's SRS diary I wanted to replicate those happy feelings myself)

Unfortunately I may have somewhat screwed myself over, as for some reason I decided to start BEFORE the SRS...being happy with anticipation...wheeled into the theatre...doctors putting me to sleep...and then just when I was about to black out to -cut to waking up post surgery-...I stumbled upon some deep childhood trauma that I had forgotten about. >.>

I remember now that when I was first questioning myself when I was younger, I watched a video that showed surgery with the old SRS techniques from like the 70s-80s...and it traumatised the hell out of me with it's brutal, grainy, blood filled footage...and I thought "there is no way in hell anything nice can come of that procedure...I never want to go through that..."

Soooo ofc the lucid dream triggered this memory...and I lost control >.>

As a result...as opposed to cutting out the grim parts and waking up after surgery...I was treated to a paralysis dream where I was unable to move or speak while internally screaming at the doctors as they brutalised my crotch, made mistakes, blood everywhere, laughter, the knowledge that I was going to be ruined...gods.

It took all my tricks just to remember it was a dream and force myself to wake up early from that one...It was not good >.>

So yeah...Lucid dreaming...you gotta be careful sometimes, one problem with routing around in your subconscious, is that you never know when you will stumble upon something you would rather leave buried :(
You say "Using humor as a defence mechanism" like it's a BAD thing!



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Lonicera

Oh my word, that sounds absolutely horrific. I appreciate it's hollow to say but I'm so, so very sorry you had to endure that, Danniella. I hope the memories from it fade as rapidly as possible and your day distracts you as quickly as possible too. :(
"In the middle of the journey of our life, I came to myself in a dark wood, where the straight way was lost. It is a hard thing to speak of, how wild, harsh and impenetrable that wood was, so that thinking of it recreates the fear. It is scarcely less bitter than death: but, in order to tell of the good that I found there, I must tell of the other things I saw there." - Dante Alighieri
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Danniella

Quote from: Lonicera on July 31, 2014, 04:03:54 AM
Oh my word, that sounds absolutely horrific. I appreciate it's hollow to say but I'm so, so very sorry you had to endure that, Danniella. I hope the memories from it fade as rapidly as possible and your day distracts you as quickly as possible too. :(
Thanks for the concern, but rest assured that I will be fine :)

It's not the first time I have encountered some inner trauma or demons before, and I dare say it shan't be the last.

But it's worth noting that having nightmares etc can be just as positive for you as having wonderful dreams, it's all just a matter of perspective.

One of the good things about understanding and gaining control over your dreams, is that they have a lessened effect on you in your waking hours.

So now that I am awake, I can analyse and detach myself from it. I can realise that it was a nightmare born of childhood trauma and nothing more.

It does not diminish my drive for SRS, nor incur any new found fear or anxiety of the procedure. In addition, now that I have experienced it once, I should now be able to break free from that nightmare far easier should I encounter it again.

Also if I find myself with unexplainable anxiety or fear regarding the procedure in the future, I will be able to pause and self analyse enough to question "Is this a legitimate fear I am experiencing...or subconscious trauma manifesting?". Which is a powerful tool to overcoming irrational fears etc.

...so much for me not derailing the thread x'D

You say "Using humor as a defence mechanism" like it's a BAD thing!



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zog

My thoughts and therefore my dreams tend to be completely symbolic in nature, so I've never experienced gender in my dreams.

...except for the past few months where I've been exclusively female, which is kind of neat. Quite often I've tended to be quite a lot older in those dreams and not a very pleasant person at all, which is not so great. I hope that's not where I'm going. Older, yes, but unpleasant and abusive I hope not.
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SilentRain

Well, since I am only in the early stages of transition, my dreams most oftenly reflect my male side. However, I've been called my female name once and another time I was in third person view as a female that was me. I feel happy my subconscious is finally agreeing with my conscious brain. However, I feel that once I transition fully with hair and all, my brain and subconscious will finally be one with each other.
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ErinWDK

I have had a second dream where I was male and female - two charaters comprising me.  This goes along with the non-binary.  Again the dream was strange and maybe symbolic and very chaotic.  I did end up with a strong feeling that the total me needs to treat the female part a LOT better.  Odd that I would have two of these in a matter of weeks and never had one before.


Erin
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LizMarie

I bounce in my dreams, sometimes in the same dream even. In one scene I'll be a guy then in another a girl. It's weird but those sorts of dreams don't stick long after I awake. The dreams that do stick are almost always female.
The meaning of life is to find your gift. The purpose of life is to give it away.



~ Cara Elizabeth
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Illuminess

I had a dream earlier where I had semi long black hair hanging down in my face which had a uniqueness to it, and very much female. Of course, it didn't last long. Come to think of it, it was very much like the singer of Russian band iamthemorning:
△ ☾ Rıνεя Aяıп Lαυяıε ☽ △

"Despair holds a sweetness that only an artist's tongue can taste."Illuminess
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Julia-Madrid

Quote from: Danniella on July 31, 2014, 03:47:05 AM
...yeah...

So last night as an "experiment" I used WILD to induce a lucid dream...then decided to try and see if I could conjure up an experience of going through SRS (because of how much I have been reading Monkeymel's SRS diary I wanted to replicate those happy feelings myself)

Yikes! This requires someone with that fancy equipment from "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind" to go in a blast all the bits into a neutral unremembered state!!  On some other thread about pre-surgery anxiety there was one very good guideline:  don't look at any surgery videos - you know it's going to be nasty.

I've had a few dreams that involve trauma of some sort, and mostly I manage to say to myself "this is just a dream, wake up!"

Speaking of which, I need a siesta :D

xxx
J
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