Quote from: Hikari on July 26, 2014, 07:17:37 PM

I personally think people ought to be Able to take whatever they want, but be made aware of the risks. The op has done some due diligence by asking around and getting information, that is great, but when we start doing too much to protect people from their own choices we start to fight a battle that cannot be won.

This popped back up on my tracker so I thought I would respond to this.  You make good points.  There are however other good reasons for having rogue web sites removed or blocked.    The web site in question was obviously an offshore (even though they tried to look like they were an LA company) and only accepted cash or western union and they would only accept UPS shipments for the money  (no postal fraud that way).  Basically, it was my opinion that they were crooks pandering to the very real needs of the T community.  And if there are that many red flags BEFORE you have even taken a pill (assuming you would get any) - one has to wonder just what their pills are made of.

I didn't go in search of these people, they responded to a CL posting I had in a T area.  They were obviously trolling for suckers.  If they had a legitimate enterprise going, their business practices would have spoken for themselves.

I don't feel bad at all for turning them in. 

Quote from: Dani Davis on August 05, 2014, 11:48:03 PM
This popped back up on my tracker so I thought I would respond to this.  You make good points.  There are however other good reasons for having rogue web sites removed or blocked.    The web site in question was obviously an offshore (even though they tried to look like they were an LA company) and only accepted cash or western union and they would only accept UPS shipments for the money  (no postal fraud that way).  Basically, it was my opinion that they were crooks pandering to the very real needs of the T community.  And if there are that many red flags BEFORE you have even taken a pill (assuming you would get any) - one has to wonder just what their pills are made of.

I didn't go in search of these people, they responded to a CL posting I had in a T area.  They were obviously trolling for suckers.  If they had a legitimate enterprise going, their business practices would have spoken for themselves.

I don't feel bad at all for turning them in.

I agree with you, I would have turned them in myself IF: As you say they did not accept major credit cards for payment. AND, they would not ship USPS.

However, and I need to point this out, there ARE legitimate offshore pharmacies out there who are a lifeline for some of us. I currently have a wonderful Endo and my hrt is being monitored and I'm well on my way with my SRS being scheduled for this December. BUT it wasn't always like this for me. I live in a rural area of Florida and had a hard time finding my Endo/Doctors to get my hrt started. And if it weren't for two of these offshore pharmacies I wouldn't be here writing this right now -I'd be dead. So this is a touchy area for some of us -just so ya know.

Ali

Gals, my understanding is that often truly fraudulent companies won't accept banking transactions such as credit cards and won't ship via government carriers (like the Postal Service) because it makes it much harder to prosecute them for fraud.  Therefore, this can be a valid indicator of fraud.  Not a guarantee, but an indicator.

Also, some of you have some very valid points about a literal "lifeline" to having "alternative" sources available to you, or else you would be dead.  Good point.

Johanna.

Actually another thing is they have to do payments other than credit cards because banks here will not authorize illegal transactions. This would put themselves (banks) in a position to be gone after by the Federal Government themselves. This is why some require Western Union and other alternative forms of payment. 

Quote from: Jessica Merriman on August 07, 2014, 05:54:47 PM
Actually another thing is they have to do payments other than credit cards because banks here will not authorize illegal transactions. This would put themselves (banks) in a position to be gone after by the Federal Government themselves. This is why some require Western Union and other alternative forms of payment. 

Good point Jess^^___^^ I had forgotten about that. The two I used accepted my Visa card though.

Ali

i think ethinyL estradioL is onLy dangerous when you are taking it in Late age. but it did great feminization on younger mtf. this is due to the fact that ethinyL estradioL is the most potent estrogen. 100 times foLd than estradioL in terms of feminizing.

PrincessKisses : I'll reiterate that higher doses of ethinyl estradiol is even considered dangerous in cis girls taking birth control...  there's a reason that the earliest forms of the Pill were much higher doses and now modern medicine has sought to decrease the amount to the bare minimum that will be effective.

It's no longer recommended or prescribed in the US because it is extremely risky. I tried it back when I was self medicating and awoke one morning with a life threatening case of DVT, had I not made it to the ER right away I might not be here today. Don't encourage anyone to take that that crap, it's irresponsible.