http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2781358/Bruce-Jenner-shows-new-shiny-layered-hairdo-Elton-John-s-concert-Hollywood.html

There have been reports for months that he's transitioning, ever since he had a tracheal shave. I think he is and will come out soon. Sadly though, since his involvement with the Kardashian clan, I think it's going to set our community back a bit.

While I try not to get into what other people may or may not be doing it sure looks like they might be. Maybe though they're non binary so not a full transition.

I think he will transition full force soon... no doubt Chris is one of us, binary MTF woman

Why should it matter how he presents himself?  I know being judged comes with being a celebrity, but I find the act of scrutinizing whether or not he is transgender to be pretty gross.  If he does come out it should be when he is ready, not because everyone forced him to.

Quote from: skin on October 05, 2014, 03:13:37 PM
Why should it matter how he presents himself?  I know being judged comes with being a celebrity, but I find the act of scrutinizing whether or not he is transgender to be pretty gross.  If he does come out it should be when he is ready, not because everyone forced him to.

very much this. I see people here doing what we fuss about when cis people do it.

I've heard this rumor for literally years.  Wake me up when (s)he comes out for real. *YAWN*

Quote from: skin on October 05, 2014, 03:13:37 PM
Why should it matter how he presents himself?  I know being judged comes with being a celebrity, but I find the act of scrutinizing whether or not he is transgender to be pretty gross.  If he does come out it should be when he is ready, not because everyone forced him to.

I'm not judging anyone, just having a discussion.

I think it is definitely possible, but we'll have to wait and see what happens; he may just be an extreme metrosexual. 

Quote from: Wynternight on October 05, 2014, 02:52:19 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2781358/Bruce-Jenner-shows-new-shiny-layered-hairdo-Elton-John-s-concert-Hollywood.html

There have been reports for months that he's transitioning, ever since he had a tracheal shave. I think he is and will come out soon. Sadly though, since his involvement with the Kardashian clan, I think it's going to set our community back a bit.

Quote from: Wynternight on October 05, 2014, 05:39:13 PM
I'm not judging anyone, just having a discussion.

Yes, you are. How does someone in our community being themselves set our community back?

Hhhhmmmm but he was always sorta hhhmmmm unique and into surgeries so I don't know. I don't see transition with him to be honest.

Oh just look at the pics .... I changed my mind ... Haha

Who cares?

More to the point, how would any of you would like your possible transition being in the media? How many of you would enjoy the intense scrutiny? The questions? Just because someone is in the public eye does not mean they have given up all their rights to privacy. Leave him alone, no one deserves this.

And, frankly, I don't understand why so much of the trans community goes all gaga whenever there's a sniff that some 'famous' person might be/is trans..

If Bruce is transitioning, good for them, I have no problem or judgement to make

It is their decision if and when they wish to come out or not, I will lend my support regardless

Quote from: Wynternight on October 05, 2014, 02:52:19 PM
Sadly though, since his involvement with the Kardashian clan, I think it's going to set our community back a bit.

Honestly. I don't give a damn about what some celebrity does and how it may affect how the public views transpeople. The way I see it is like this: Anyone that would judge all trans people based on what some so-called celebrity does or whom they are affiliated with is a damn fool. The truth is that people who are transphobic are going to be as such no matter if it's some dork on TV, myself or anyone else in this world. They would hate us anyway.

Keep in mind that if Bruce is transitioning, there is a good chance that he/she is a member here and trying to figure out a path forward just like the rest of us. Be assured that TMZ will make sure the world knows about a transition just as they did with Zoey Tur who is a member here.

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on October 05, 2014, 09:31:47 PM
Yes, you are. How does someone in our community being themselves set our community back?

FFS - go back and read what I said. If you can't figure it out I'm not wasting my time explaining.

This is the people section. This is about a person so right section and this isn't something that the media hasn't brought up before so damn, get over me posting it. I'm not judging Bruce and wish him the best in whatever he chooses.

Quote from: JessicaH on October 06, 2014, 01:01:39 AM
Keep in mind that if Bruce is transitioning, there is a good chance that he/she is a member here and trying to figure out a path forward just like the rest of us. Be assured that TMZ will make sure the world knows about a transition just as they did with Zoey Tur who is a member here.

And they'll do everything they can to paint Bruce, if he is transitioning, the same way they paint us. That's topic-worthy, IMO.

There's nothing wrong with speculation. There was three years of speculating before Lana Wachowski came out.

Quote from: kelly_aus on October 05, 2014, 10:43:54 PM
Who cares?

More to the point, how would any of you would like your possible transition being in the media? How many of you would enjoy the intense scrutiny? The questions? Just because someone is in the public eye does not mean they have given up all their rights to privacy. Leave him alone, no one deserves this.

And, frankly, I don't understand why so much of the trans community goes all gaga whenever there's a sniff that some 'famous' person might be/is trans..

Those of us discussing it care. Obviously you care since you took the time to post here. Why the hell people get all butt-hurt over this is beyond me.

Quote from: Wynternight on October 06, 2014, 01:23:46 AM
Those of us discussing it care. Obviously you care since you took the time to post here. Why the hell people get all butt-hurt over this is beyond me.

Nice work at missing my actual point..

Would a nice expose on Fox make you feel good? How about I plaster it across FB, TMZ or The Times? Tweets will also be forthcoming.

I don't care if Bruce Jenner is trans or not. What I do care about it is them being given the privacy we all deserve to make our decisions.

If I was to spread unfounded gossip about you, wouldn't you feel like I was doing the wrong thing?

I may be wrong but doesn't Google crawl this site? If so, it could give others fodder to give Bruce Jenner grief.
I can see the TMZ headline now: "->-bleeped-<-s speculate if Jenner is one of them".