Quote from: Julia-Madrid on October 16, 2014, 03:27:29 PM. . . that pretty hair you currently see in my avatar is fake.

I had no idea.  It suits you very well though!

Ok, I'm convinced now that it shouldn't be cut.  If necessary, tidied up by a truly experienced hairstylist who is 100% aware that I'm trying to look like a girl one day, but nothing more.

My hair is in a completely bizzare state itself. It has some wacky layers in the back and flairs out to the sides. The good news is, I have made the decision to look for a more trans friendly job and will no longer cut my hair to make corporate America happy. I can form a tiny ponytail now, maybe another month before I can really get a hold of it and tie it back.

Quote from: Christine Eryn on October 18, 2014, 11:41:19 AM
My hair is in a completely bizzare state itself. It has some wacky layers in the back and flairs out to the sides. The good news is, I have made the decision to look for a more trans friendly job and will no longer cut my hair to make corporate America happy. I can form a tiny ponytail now, maybe another month before I can really get a hold of it and tie it back.

That is what I'm talking about. "Get a haircut and get a real job." George Thorogood did a pretty god job huh? Who in the world said that guys have to have short hair and girls can have long hair? Is there a Hair Czar in this country or the world? Note all the sarcasm. It is ridiculous. Everyone loves a rebel. But try getting a real job with long hair and they think you are rebellious. Well I'm trans, and yeah a little bit rebellious. So guilty for me, but what about all of our sisters that want a real job and have long hair? OMG I hope my rebellious streak isn't screwing other MTF from getting jobs. But I have a business of my own so I hope not.

Quote from: Jess42 on October 19, 2014, 04:00:43 AM
That is what I'm talking about. "Get a haircut and get a real job." George Thorogood did a pretty god job huh? Who in the world said that guys have to have short hair and girls can have long hair? Is there a Hair Czar in this country or the world? Note all the sarcasm. It is ridiculous. Everyone loves a rebel. But try getting a real job with long hair and they think you are rebellious. Well I'm trans, and yeah a little bit rebellious. So guilty for me, but what about all of our sisters that want a real job and have long hair? OMG I hope my rebellious streak isn't screwing other MTF from getting jobs. But I have a business of my own so I hope not.

Lol Jess, a hair czair  yes I think there is, along with a colour czair, earring czair etc etc. it's just not right is it. Well I'm in Corporate Australia and already tarting to break all the rules, oh well, they'll just have to live with it 

Heh, a "real job".. it's pretty normal for men working in science or tech industries to have long hair.  If anything those industries encourage rebelliousness, eccentricity and "thinking outside the box".  Are those jobs "not real"?  Because, you know, advancing the human race isn't like, important or anything lol

Sorry Jess, that's not directed at you hun ♥︎  That's directed at silly dinosaurs who say stupid things like that lol.  This is why I'm so glad to be British - we don't have anything like the corporate mentality that 'Murica seems to always have lol (fyi Americans are generally lovely people, I just don't like the large corporations lol) ♥︎

Real worker here from Australia,

I once worked at a bar when I was younger, where it was in the employee handbook "All males must have hair above the collar". It took them a few years before H.R came to me. Read that rule looked at me, looked at the handbook. Then asked
"Gypsy please at least make it a normal colour"
They knew they wouldn't be able to make me cut it without a fight

The times they are a changing. You might be surprised what you can get away with if you have the time and patience to go slowly.

Quote from: ♥︎ SarahD ♥︎ on October 19, 2014, 05:11:35 AM
Heh, a "real job".. it's pretty normal for men working in science or tech industries to have long hair.  If anything those industries encourage rebelliousness, eccentricity and "thinking outside the box".  Are those jobs "not real"?  Because, you know, advancing the human race isn't like, important or anything lol

Sorry Jess, that's not directed at you hun ♥︎  That's directed at silly dinosaurs who say stupid things like that lol.  This is why I'm so glad to be British - we don't have anything like the corporate mentality that 'Murica seems to always have lol (fyi Americans are generally lovely people, I just don't like the large corporations lol) ♥︎

I know hon. I was quoting George Thoroughood or however the crap you spell his name. One of our more famous musicians her in the US. I ain't never had a real job except for the military and that sucked for hairstyles. Other than that driving truck and no one cares what you look like or playing guitar and sometimes both. So long hair is pretty much a given.

I am in "Murica" as you say and I love this country but hat the freakin mentality when it come to looking "presentable". I hate corporations too. I have pulled up to many of them with an upside down cross in one ear and an upside down pentagram in the other with my long hair tucked behind my ears. I never stank like some drivers. My clothes were always clean and damn girlfriend, I actually smelled good. Even long and curly my hair was always neat. Or as neat as you can get with curls. I had so many call ins on me. The one that handled the calls asked if they wanted the crap there safe and on time or pulled by a driver with no experience in the snow and mountain passes? Guess what they really wanted? Funny how that works. Rebellious and Eccentric? Who are you taking about? LOL, just got to say it again LOL.

I definitely agree with you Sarah. But feeding the human race, entertaining the human race, delivering toilet paper to the human race and delivering undies to the human race is just as important as the tech industry. The coolest stuff I ever delivered was for Victoria's Secret and I  had one whole box left over with nothing but thongs. Well guess who got a whole box of thongs? The box was 4'x4'. Oh yeah, I took what I wanted and sold the rest at a Wal Mart parking lot.

But yeah it is kind of crazy sometimes here when it comes to looks. Seems like everyone loves a Rebel but as long as they follow all the rules and look like everyone else.

Quote from: immortal gypsy on October 19, 2014, 05:32:38 AM

"Gypsy please at least make it a normal colour"

What were they talking about, I bet they were all normal colours Gypsy... We've got blue, green, pink, purple, indigo, I mean, are they saying these aren't normal colours? Hmm, HR can be so much fun to deal with sometimes.

Quote from: immortal gypsy on October 19, 2014, 05:32:38 AM
Real worker here from Australia,

I once worked at a bar when I was younger, where it was in the employee handbook "All males must have hair above the collar". It took them a few years before H.R came to me. Read that rule looked at me, looked at the handbook. Then asked
"Gypsy please at least make it a normal colour" They knew they wouldn't be able to make me cut it without a fight

The times they are a changing. You might be surprised what you can get away with if you have the time and patience to go slowly.

Don't sound like any bar I have ever frequented or played at. Did ya'll get a bunch of stuffed shirts or something?

Quote from: Jess42 on October 19, 2014, 05:43:34 AM

But yeah it is kind of crazy sometimes here when it comes to looks. Seems like everyone loves a Rebel but as long as they follow all the rules and look like everyone else.

How do you say it? If you want to be a rebel all you have to do is dress the same way I do and listen to the same music I do

Quote from: BreezyB on October 19, 2014, 05:47:24 AM
What were they talking about, I bet they were all normal colours Gypsy... We've got blue, green, pink, purple, indigo, I mean, are they saying these aren't normal colours? Hmm, HR can be so much fun to deal with sometimes.

Have done all those so far Bree except green. That one will probably be next Christmas (red and green ). Yeah they wanted a normal hair colour, and for some reason raspberry fudge on bleached hair doesn't look normal. It only took them about a month after I had that colour before they came to see me thou . Yeah I never could understand H.R sometimes

Quote from: Jess42 on October 19, 2014, 06:07:27 AM
Don't sound like any bar I have ever frequented or played at. Did ya'll get a bunch of stuffed shirts or something?

Close a Returned Servicemen L? club. (I forget what the L stands for). Had to wear long shirt pants vest and tie. You could always tell when I had finished my shift because the first thing I would do is take my hair out straight away before clocking off

Quote from: immortal gypsy on October 19, 2014, 06:15:49 AM

Have done all those so far Bree except green.

Close a Returned Servicemen L? club. (I forget what the L stands for).

Well St Patrick's day could be a goer for green? Although it's just one day, but you could use that crazy colour stuff.

And the L stands for League. I bet that place was a blast to work at, bless our Service Men and Women 

Quote from: immortal gypsy on October 19, 2014, 06:15:49 AM
2How do you say it? If you want to be a rebel all you have to do is dress the same way I do and listen to the same music I do

Have done all those so far Bree except green. That one will probably be next Christmas (red and green ). Yeah they wanted a normal hair colour, and for some reason raspberry fudge on bleached hair doesn't look normal. It only took them about a month after I had that colour before they came to see me thou . Yeah I never could understand H.R sometimes
1Close a Returned Servicemen L? club. (I forget what the L stands for). Had to wear long shirt pants vest and tie. You could always tell when I had finished my shift because the first thing I would do is take my hair out straight away before clocking off

1.I just ain't ever been to a bar like that before. Most of the ones that I have been to have been kind of rough. Even in the military I went off post, especially in Korea. So no NCO or O club for me. Mama San did me really good when I cam in. A tie? Wow, maybe I just been too much on the sleazy side of town. Hell hon the  way you a\talk about the one you used to work at, I seriously doubt they would let me in.

2 I don't say it but that seems to be the "rules" nowdays. You can be a rebel as long as you do what I tell you. I do what I want. My drivers do, look and dress the way they want. I got two that do Sturgis and Daytona. I tell 'em go for it. Both of us make money and I make sure they make as much as I do when they sit for a week waiting.

Quote from: BreezyB on October 19, 2014, 05:09:07 AM
Lol Jess, a hair czair  yes I think there is, along with a colour czair, earring czair etc etc. it's just not right is it. Well I'm in Corporate Australia and already tarting to break all the rules, oh well, they'll just have to live with it 

I guess I should shut up. With our government a hair czar may very well be possible. Along with a color czar and earing czar. Hell our pres just hired and Ebola czar with no background in healthcare and no knowledge of Ebola. I know more about Ebola than this guy.

BTW, this isn't political just pointing out.

Keep breaking the rules and pushing the boundaries Breezy. If the rules and boundaries weren't made to be pushed and or broken, then there would be no rules. Don't listen to me though 'cause when I was younger I lost a lot of jobs because of my attitude.

Quote from: BreezyB on October 19, 2014, 06:36:57 AM
Well St Patrick's day could be a goer for green? Although it's just one day, but you could use that crazy colour stuff.
I bet that place was a blast to work at, bless our Service Men and Women 

Green hair chalk could be fun for a day. The place did have it moments because I ended up working in the TAB (betting area), we would joke I only worked two days a year. ANZAC Day (Lest we forget), and Melbourne Cup Day.

Quote from: Jess42 on October 19, 2014, 06:42:30 AM
2 I don't say it but that seems to be the "rules" nowdays. You can be a rebel as long as you do what I tell you. I do what I want. My drivers do, look and dress the way they want. I got two that do Sturgis and Daytona. I tell 'em go for it. Both of us make money and I make sure they make as much as I do when they sit for a week waiting.

That's what I love about my new job. As long as I'm clothed and have my work top on. My boss doesn't care how I look as long as I do my job and get them spending money, so there is money in the business at the end of the week.

Quote from: BreezyB on October 19, 2014, 05:09:07 AM. . . tarting to break all the rules . . .

Cute!

Quote from: Brenda E on October 19, 2014, 07:59:22 AM
Cute!

I know, I saw the SPELLO but it just seemed to work 

I use it's a 10 shampoo and cream styling gel, both with keratin. I have frizzy hair and it tames it. You can get it through Amazon.

I have another 18 - 24 months at least of hair growing and I will not cut it. I agree long hair is the #1 feminine cue.

I too love my longer hair.

I hope this helps.

Thanks for the recommendation, Cynthia Michelle.  I'll order some - hope it has industrial strength defrizzing properties.

Quote from: Cynthia Michelle on October 19, 2014, 09:48:07 AM
I use it's a 10 shampoo and cream styling gel, both with keratin. I have frizzy hair and it tames it. You can get it through Amazon.

I have another 18 - 24 months at least of hair growing and I will not cut it. I agree long hair is the #1 feminine cue.

I too love my longer hair.

I hope this helps.

Thanks^^___^^ Cynthia. My hair isn't frizzy but I have a friend who's is -badly. She is trying to grow hers out as well and having a hard time dealing with the frizz. Although, she might need that industrial strength frizz control Brenda mentions, lol!

Hair Czars, Earring Czars, color Czars, fashion Czars, lol, y'all are too much! Thanks Jess, Gypsy I needed a good laugh today!

Ally

Quote from: Jess42 on October 19, 2014, 04:00:43 AM
That is what I'm talking about. "Get a haircut and get a real job." George Thorogood did a pretty god job huh? Who in the world said that guys have to have short hair and girls can have long hair? Is there a Hair Czar in this country or the world? Note all the sarcasm. It is ridiculous. Everyone loves a rebel. But try getting a real job with long hair and they think you are rebellious. Well I'm trans, and yeah a little bit rebellious. So guilty for me, but what about all of our sisters that want a real job and have long hair? OMG I hope my rebellious streak isn't screwing other MTF from getting jobs. But I have a business of my own so I hope not.

Are you hiring?!?!? 

I used to have really long hair until I sold my soul to the business culture a few years ago. It funded my transition though. It's tough being the square peg in a world of round holes, as some of us know. The holes being ->-bleeped-<-s who generally don't like anyone that isn't a clone like them. My last job I reeeeally stuck out like a sore thumb. A somewhat flamboyant not yet full time semi androgenous person in "guy" mode who wears earrings. Yeah. 

On the original topic, I am using John Frieda frizz ease to help my overly curly locks but it doesn't seem to be working. I think it will be more managable when I grow it out.