I got to thinking. lol. I know what you guys are thinking... but anyways I have a weird theory on supply-demand. I realize Im hyper feminine at certain times.... especially around my crush. His wife is hyper feminine... girly.girl and make up and cooks. Hes into women. I happen to be 5'6, curvy to an extent, youthful looking. Hes 6'5 at least... so the difference is there. I guess 6'3 up only for me.

But I somehow go pass the requirements on what hes into because of my personality, facial features, and overall femaleness.

Is it the ultimate sign of being a female when you attract males???

Hes not the only one... and these guys arent gay either. Or bi.

I am sorry but how would you know if you pass the requirements for him being attracted? You say he has a wife so are you really really sure he is into you, has he ever said it to you or are you assuming? I am sorry,  I mean no harm I am just afraid you may end getting disappointed because it is not what you thought it was.

If men are attracted to you pre-HRT, they may be bi, gay or pansexual but very unlikely straight as even if you are seen as an extremely feminine guy, that doesn't equal woman. And you don't present femme in any way, so yeah. Sorry, I mean no offense.

EDIT: Also, you don't want to be the "other woman". It is a horrible situation both for you and his wife as he will tear you apart if you end up having an affair. You know he has a wife, so if I were you I would back off. And if he is considering doing it with you, he could do it to you later. So, my advice is to let it go completely.  It is not healthy and I question whether you are really in love or infatuated.

Body language. At parties he sits right in front of me(will move to sit in front of me), waits for me, holds the door for me, complimented me on my looks once, tries to find time for me, giggles when im there,.... usually Im the jerk because ill leave the table without saying goodbye so I dont look gay. He seem flirtatious when im there.

Yeah. I do not not expect a relationship...? I already cried last weekend about that but im enjoying this fantasy relationship lol since its the best one i had to date. I now know why i dont like gay guys... straight guys are better or mayne im just pathetic.

Hes not going to kiss me. We dont talk in our free time... although he was SO close.... he ask me what i plan on doing over the weekend. But we dont talk about real things its just like a crush only relationship.

Being attractive can certainly feel very good but is really no indicator, in my experience, about another person's motivation or sexual orientation.  I know there are plenty of guys who may have sex with another man but will never call themselves gay or bi.  Many people are able to compartmentalize their behavior and say to themselves; "oh that was just sex."

If you are getting some special attention it can mean all kinds of interests are possible.  As the guy you are crushing on has a wife you may find it difficult to have an open and honest discussion of what he is interested in.

I used to have clear sense of why a guy was looking at me but that has changed with my transition.  Making eye contact is enough for some to catch the spark.  Have fun with your curvy feminine charms but please play safe.

And please!  Gay guys are every bit as fabulous as any man and, IMO, more likely to be interested in loving another man.

But Im not a man.

We havent even held hands so it wont go far...

Hey Wild Flower,

I don't really know you or know how you present but I do respect whatever identity you assert for yourself.

I also have had very loving relationships with men who thought I was a girly man prior to transition.  Now I am girly but no man either.

Holding hands sounds lovely.  Maybe some day with someone?

Yes there is nothing Ive found so far that comes close to the feeling I get from getting attention from men

Yes Im pre op and still early in my transition but Ive had AMAZING experiences already... I wont go into that though

I dont know you but Id suggest being open and honest not with him but with his wife about how your feeling... They might be open to a three way arrangement

Umm... no lol

Unless he comes and ask me about this... its staying in my head.

I dont think he knows i feel attracted to him because i give him the cold shoulder

You might be surprised what he knows... Ive given up trying to figure out how MEN think... I never was one really and after being with more than a few as myself it became crystal clear to me Im really a woman

There are men out there that are all about feminizing girls like us... I know this first hand

Quote from: Wild Flower on November 30, 2014, 01:25:59 PM


Is it the ultimate sign of being a female when you attract males???

Not really... there are many human males who can be attracted to just about anything that can provides them with a suitable hole... just thing what transpire in jails... for example.... or the case of the "->-bleeped-<-" as another example...


I am responding to the OP question, it is just my opinion

Quote from: Wild Flower on November 30, 2014, 01:48:27 PM
Body language. At parties he sits right in front of me(will move to sit in front of me), waits for me, holds the door for me, complimented me on my looks once, tries to find time for me, giggles when im there,.... usually Im the jerk because ill leave the table without saying goodbye so I dont look gay. He seem flirtatious when im there.

Ummm, I don't know, he sounds friendly but what do you mean by "not talking about real things"? If you don't talk in your free time, then probably he's not interested even if he's attracted to you. I don't know how to put it, I wish could say that in a nicer way, but it just seems to me that you're very infatuated with him but honestly, he may not feel the same way about you. Please take no offense and I admit I could, and probably am wrong, as I have never seen you interact.

Quote from: peky on November 30, 2014, 03:59:07 PM

Not really... human males can be attracted to just about anything that can provides them with a suitable hole

I strongly disagree with your statement. There may be lots of men who are like that but not all are like that. I find your generalization very insulting and reductionist. And especially if we consider there are men who are exclusively "bottoms", then I have just refuted your claim. How sexist, ugh. Sorry

Quote from: Auroramarianna on November 30, 2014, 04:53:35 PM
@ Peky

I strongly disagree with your statement. There may be lots of men who are like that but not all are like that. I find your generalization very insulting and reductionist. And especially if we consider there are men who are exclusively "bottoms", then I have just refuted your claim. How sexist, ugh. Sorry

Perhaps... darling... I have modified my original post... to make less general and perhaps less offensive

BTW males who are exclusively 'bottoms" are not attracted to females or other bottoms... s

Lets just agree to disagree... my point is that you are not the epitome of femininity just because males are attracted to you...