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Started by bv5913, December 09, 2014, 08:03:33 AM

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Julia-Madrid

Folks, there are easier ways to win friends and influence people.  We don't need to start with the most aggressive approach, do we?  And how about we keep this a low testosterone zone...?

Take her for a quiet and private coffee.  Gently explain that her comments are hurtful and unnecessary, and educate her a little about transgender issues. 

If that doesn't work, then you have a reason to escalate the issue to HR.  In any event, I assume that HR knows about you and has offered its support?
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JustASeq

Quote from: Julia-Madrid on December 09, 2014, 03:47:46 PM
Folks, there are easier ways to win friends and influence people.  We don't need to start with the most aggressive approach, do we?
I agree with this part.
Quote from: Julia-Madrid on December 09, 2014, 03:47:46 PM
And how about we keep this a low testosterone zone...?
But find this offensive. From my perspective when you tell women to stop the male hormones , it feels like you are telling people who obviously identify as women to stop being men.

You could follow the first two before you tell women who may or may not be dysphoric they are acting like men.
-Seq
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TSJasmine

I still think my option is VERY valid.
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Wild Flower

"Anyone who believes what a cat tells him deserves all he gets."
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Jenna Marie

So, logically, a cis woman who's had a hysterectomy, has not had her genes checked, has a unisex or "boy" name, or who was born with a vagina but an accidental clerical error listed "M" on her birth certificate (all of these have really happened, though some are more common than others)... is a man?

And if she's THAT hung up on these things, I assume she interrogates all women she meets about their internal organs, life history, karyotype, etc.?

Hell, I'd say the easiest way to shut her up is to point out that unless she's actually had the test run - and she probably hasn't, it's expensive and most doctors won't order it without cause - she doesn't know she herself is not genetically XY. It happens, and some women like that grow up with typically female bodies (it's less likely that they'd have a fully functioning reproductive system, but not impossible). So if you turn this around on her every time by pointing out that by her own rules SHE might be a man, she may realizing she's having less fun fast.
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Indoctrinated

Quote from: Julia-Madrid on December 09, 2014, 03:47:46 PM
Folks, there are easier ways to win friends and influence people.  We don't need to start with the most aggressive approach, do we?  And how about we keep this a low testosterone zone...?

Take her for a quiet and private coffee.  Gently explain that her comments are hurtful and unnecessary, and educate her a little about transgender issues. 

If that doesn't work, then you have a reason to escalate the issue to HR.  In any event, I assume that HR knows about you and has offered its support?
Thanks Julia.
"Freedom, I must say,
Exists within unconditioned minds"

Dead Can Dance - Indoctrination (A Design for Living)
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Lostkitten

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on December 09, 2014, 03:16:12 PM
That is disgusting. Handicapped children aren't handed out like punishment. I'd rather have a handicapped child that knows how to show love than someone who hates on handicapped children.

Gawd.. Need to defend myself with all I say. As mentioned, I am not against handicapped people in the slightest but that woman sounds as if it be an even bigger deal to her.
:D Want to see me ramble, talk about experiences or explaining about gender dysphoria? :D
http://thedifferentperspectives3000.blogspot.nl/
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Susan

The issue is Kirey you insinuated that having a handicapped child is a negative thing, a universal repercussion for bad deeds. That may not have been your intention, but I think it was. While no parent wishes their child to be born disabled, many parents find a life of love and unquestioning acceptance from these children that everyone would envy.

Also I have issue with anyone recommending that anyone  on this forum stoop to the level of their attacker by bashing or flaming the person. It's simply not acceptable.  Please avoid doing so in the future.
Susan Larson
Founder
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