It's like this -

European - covers many different nations

English - people from England

English people are European, but every European is not English.

It's really that simple.

According to some, you're not TS until you have the operation.
According to others, after the operation you stop being TS.

I hope that's clear.   

Quote from: taru on October 22, 2007, 05:31:38 AM

Quote from: Lori on October 19, 2007, 05:34:50 PM
"Both have the surgery to become a woman"??

This sounds very inclusive of FTMs

Then again I don't think anyone becomes a woman by surgery, SRS just makes the body congruent with what the person is.

I agree Taru.....I've seen many blokes who have had SRS and their mannerisms,  and still look and appear and sound like blokes...

SRS doesn't define 'femininity' or being a women just because their genitalia is removed.....it#s far more complexed than that..

Hi

Well, please hold the rotten veggies until after the show is over. I am just a simple four years post-op transsexual who has jumped through all of the hoops to be as female as I can be. So I am as female as I can be and I adapted to who I truly am and I have worked alongside many other low profile north American women for the past seven years, without anyone questioning the credibility of who I am.

I know that being transsexual is my roots, there is no denying that, but out there I am just me. Not a beauty queen by a long shot, but I blend in quite well with any number of the other typical females going about doing their thing. When I leave my home I just go about doing what every any number of the other women do. So I am me, I am woman, I feel liberated and I am enjoying life. The hardest part was getting use to being among so many people in this city. I am just a simple country girl from Ontario.

So I don't really Identify as Transsexual anymore, fore the simple reason for seven years I was the only TS in town, I never really had any other TS friend around within 200 miles to identify with so I kind of rather learned to blend in rather quickly after coming out full time.

OK, you may throw the rotten veggies now.

Cindy

Well, it is unfortunate that a person who identifies as a drag queen can tell the whole television viewing world her definition of what we are, when she is out of touch with it herself. That kind of stuff can set us back years, and keep us in the dark ages. And it is unfortunate, also that the definitions are too unwieldy for the common man (or woman) in this country. Most people just don't give a damn, and never will, as long as they have their beer and TV. I say "smash all the televisions!"

Quote from: nickie on October 28, 2007, 08:03:28 PM
Well, it is unfortunate that a person who identifies as a drag queen can tell the whole television viewing world her definition of what we are, when she is out of touch with it herself. That kind of stuff can set us back years, and keep us in the dark ages.

You would enjoy the Canadian lesbian film Better than Chocolate. It includes a transsexual character who sings a song titled "I'm not a Fukking Drag Queen."