I used to worry about airports, but I've been though them quite a few times and never had anyone say anything. I normally just wear a sports compression shirt underneath my regular clothes, but I'd have thought my breasts would be noticeable on the scanner. I've also been patted down a few times, and again no one said anything. I can't see how they wouldn't notice then either.

I'm not sure what to make of it. Its got to be utter incompetence or politeness, but neither seem too likely.

I'm not too concerned about being insulted, but there's always the possibility of being placed on a watch list if you fight back and never being able to travel again. That bothers me.

Quote from: Jill F on February 09, 2015, 08:02:31 PM
I'm curious as to the cost/benefit analysis of those thingies.   I mean all the time, trouble, expense and dignity we have surrendered for them has to have caught us boatloads of terrorists by now, right? /sarc

I'd say the cost/beneft is pretty clear. They cost a vast amount of money, and there's someone getting rich.

Here's a few interesting links

http://www.nestmann.com/proof-that-airport-screening-is-nothing-more-than-security-theater

https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/01/tsa_removing_ra.html

https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2012/03/video_shows_tsa.html

Here's one that shows its not just transgender people having problems.

https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/11/tsa_backscatter.html

As someone who has yet to transition, I flew resently for a job interview. Being a white guy in a suite, I got through TSA without a scan, questioning, or search. Easy as pie. I guess I'm the opposite of what a terrorist would look like.

Quote from: YoungZep on February 10, 2015, 10:23:53 AM
As someone who has yet to transition, I flew resently for a job interview. Being a white guy in a suite, I got through TSA without a scan, questioning, or search. Easy as pie. I guess I'm the opposite of what a terrorist would look like.

He he he--- just you wait... the fun stuff is coming up

Quote from: YoungZep on February 10, 2015, 10:23:53 AM
As someone who has yet to transition, I flew resently for a job interview. Being a white guy in a suite, I got through TSA without a scan, questioning, or search. Easy as pie. I guess I'm the opposite of what a terrorist would look like.

White male privilege be damned, lol

I bit the bullet and decided to wear a bra full time last July. December comes up and BAM trip to fix LAX... dammit. Well I went through with my self exploring determination and yep, they picked it up both times. Just turned out to be a pat down, (I'm sure it became immediately obvious), then "Move Along"... pardon the Stormtrooper impression.. Either way... WE ARE EVERYWHERE! This has been an interesting thread... Thanx Julia.

I think I will wear a sports bra when I fly. No metal hooks.

Binders do make the full body scanners beep (I fly in US from time to time), and its not comfortable to fly in them (aside from compression it raises your body temperature a lot making it easy to overheat). Patdowns are too invasive so when I fly again I will just have to deal without a binder.

Quote from: ImagineKate on February 09, 2015, 05:57:48 PMFor some reason I thought they killed off the scanners here in the USA.airports.

They are removing them, but not quickly.

Quote from: JoanneB on February 09, 2015, 06:36:39 PM
So much for all that (I knew it was) BS that the software will "Hide" the naughty bits and won't be seen on the scanner screen.

Silly me for trusting my government betters 

The new images show where anomalies are, but not the actual image.

@Pansy - great that you've found the thread interesting, and that you managed to slip in a Star Wars reference.

My go then:  "Those aren't the droids, er, private parts you're looking for..."

Quote from: Julia-Madrid on February 11, 2015, 04:37:40 PM
@Pansy - great that you've found the thread interesting, and that you managed to slip in a Star Wars reference.

My go then:  "Those aren't the droids, er, private parts you're looking for..."

LOL Julia, that's exactly what I was thinking as well

My experience with our TSA as a male ID'ed cross-dressed transgender has been very benign.  But I've only flown twice, LAX to MCO (Orlando) and back.  I was also pre-checked, so only had a metal detector, but had to take my heels off due to the steel content in them. 

I've had far more invasive checks as a male, but then my day job involves certain chemicals they're on the look out for.  I've been selected for secondary search and have been swabbed as well.   This last trip wasn't a big deal, but I had contemplated flying cross-dressed before, but ran into a college from Germany at the airport.  Boy was I glad I decided to pack the dress and not wear it that day.  I'd rather tell him, than have a surprise outing at the terminal. 

Way to have a humorous outlook on this encounter.  Soon enough it'll never happen again.

-Alana

Then of course there is this guy:

http://www.azfamily.com/news/local/Crossdressing-man-allowed-to-board-plane-while-football-player-is-not-124399689.html

You're not a CDer but this guy is and he gets to fly all over the place. So for a transsexual it shouldn't really be a problem. The only problem is getting outed as many CDers identify as male whereas MtFs do not.