Which is more effective? Did anyone did researches about the differents in t levels between them?

I think T levels on equivalent doses would be similar. I actually had too high blood levels from t-cream, and had to cut my dose down. I've heard this from other people so this is not unheard of. I think quite a lot of people start on gel on quite a low dose and continue that way makes comparing the gel vs IM pretty hard. (I don't know re: the patch, but that is also an even dose that is topical, it's more which you'd prefer, I've heard a high percentage of skin irritation problems, but if you didn't have this issue, it might be pretty sweet.)

--Jay

I've been on the androgerm patch for a few years now. I started with injections, but was having allergic reactions to the carrier.

The patch comes in all different concentrations, 2mg, 4mg, 5mg etc. Depending on levels, One patch may be used or a combination of two of them. I've found them to be just as effective as the injections.

The only time I had any skin irritation problems was when one of the patches had a leak. I got what looked like a chemical burn with a blister. Other than that, I've not had any problems with it.

sam1234

I don't know much about dosages but I know it's much more common to have skin reactions to patches, even if you don't have sensitive skin. Reactions to the gels happen significantly less often.

AFAIK, there is one patch. So if you tolerate it nicely that's good. But if not, well no patch. That's not true of gels as there are several brands. If you are in the US you can be on compounded cream, and there many different compounded bases. I think so far I may have had 3-4 of them.

--Jay

Quote from: CursedFireDean on March 06, 2015, 04:01:51 PM
I don't know much about dosages but I know it's much more common to have skin reactions to patches, even if you don't have sensitive skin. Reactions to the gels happen significantly less often.

To be honest, I preferred the depo testosterone because I only had to use one injection every two weeks. If I hadn't had the reaction, I would still be going that route. It kept my blood levels even, was very effective, and if you don't get woozy around needles, its really not that bad.

sam1234

I've read that the gel can rub off on clothing which makes it harder to get an even dose.

Quote from: DeanJulian on March 06, 2015, 07:03:53 PM
I've read that the gel can rub off on clothing which makes it harder to get an even dose.

I don't really have that much trouble with that. It isn't like, I don't know, lube, or something. It's thick enough to me that it does tend to go into the skin more so than on clothes and tends to "want" to be absorbed.

If you are someone who doesn't absorb it well, well that could be a problem, though it won't be your only one. There was a guy on Laura's who said it came off in his washer and he had to clean a white film out his washing machine. This is an extreme case of someone not absorbing it at all. (Or perhaps very low quality compounded product of some kind.) Obviously, he wasn't absorbing well enough to transition either. But no, I don't have that problem. As I have said, I have had 3-4 different bases of t-cream and some of them seem to absorb better than others, but none with this issue.


--Jay

This sounds like one of those, what ever works best for the individual questions. We all metabolize differently and have personal preferences for route of administration.

sam1234