Planet Fitness drops member after gender identity complaint
Source: http://www.kctv5.com/story/28278233/planet-fitness-drops-member-after-gender-identity-complaint
Author: Gino Vicci
Posted: 6 March 2015
Warnings: Heavy misgendering

"Cormier said she understands that some men self-identify as women and some women self-identify as men, but said the person looked like a man and that caught her off guard. Cormier lost her membership for violating the company's no judgement zone policy."

That needs a "Heavy misgendering ahead" warning on it if you ask me.

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on March 06, 2015, 05:45:44 PM
That needs a "Heavy misgendering ahead" warning on it if you ask me.

Updated! Thank you ma'am

Really cute how the second gym stepped in and "rescued" the poor dear after she was exposed to a member of the transgender community. 

QuoteWhich hopefully will avoid a similar situation moving forward.

Read more: http://www.kctv5.com/story/28278233/planet-fitness-drops-member-after-gender-identity-complaint#ixzz3TelaH7YU

I despise the use of the phrase, "moving forward." Especially in a news broadcast.

Planet Fitness drops member after gender identity complaint

http://www.cbs3springfield.com/story/28278233/planet-fitness-drops-member-after-gender-identity-complaint

By Gino Vicci
March 6th, 2015

MIDLAND, MI (WNEM) - It's a business that sells itself on being non-judgmental but Planet Fitness has allegedly revoked the membership of a woman for complaining.

Yvette Cormier, a member at the Midland location, says she had no idea what that meant until a few days ago.

"I was stunned and shocked. He looked like a man.. He did not look like a woman," Cormier said. Cormier is talking about a transgender woman who walked into the woman's locker room while she was getting undressed. She says she couldn't believe her eyes.
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Been wondering about going to Planet Fitness these days and drop Lucille Roberts since the latter is a women's gym.

Merged duplicate topics on different boards.

There appears to be multiple sources for the story, which are somewhat different.  What isn't clear from the title, and magnified by a TW, is that Planet Fitness dropped a cis woman for complaining that a transgender woman used the women's locker room.  Misgendering in the article was done by the complaining party who was dropped, the business itself was 100% supportive.

Bravo Planet Fitness.

Just heard about this story this morning, high fives to Planet Fitness!

Highly biased reporting against transfolk.

Would have been nice if it were pointed out that the lady didn't object to a trans woman in the locker room, she objected to someone who looked like a man. She wouldn't have had a problem with a passable trans woman, in fact wouldn't even have known.

But, yes, I know. Way, way too much to expect of the media.

Quote from: suzifrommd on March 08, 2015, 04:45:56 PM
Highly biased reporting against transfolk.

Would have been nice if it were pointed out that the lady didn't object to a trans woman in the locker room, she objected to someone who looked like a man. She wouldn't have had a problem with a passable trans woman, in fact wouldn't even have known.

But, yes, I know. Way, way too much to expect of the media.

I agree about the bad reporting, but I'm betting if this woman knew there was a transgender person in the facility at all, we'd still be hearing complaints about Planet Fitness needing to protect her.

Hugs, Devlyn

You ever get that feeling,

That one deep in your stomach.

I have that with this one.

Sounds to far fetched and questionable truths. Is there a lawsuit motivation or was there really a male pervert in there. One not transgender and a real pervert.

I could be wrong but we seen it before when bathroom bills where in national news. This one is spreading like Jenners half truth story.

Donno hard shaking that feeling.

the reporting I read that was objectionable were only quotes from the woman who reported the person to the health club.  The title of this makes it seem like the health club is at fault, but in fact they stood up for the trans woman and kept to their principles of non-discrimination and inclusion.  Can we at least agree that it wasn't a case of discrimination against us, but justifiable expulsion of a bigot?

I think that's why it's a story. We all know the gym stood up for the transgender person.  The tv reporter did a lead-in that said "a man who identifies as a transgender woman". That and the complainants misgendering seem to be what we're objecting to.

Hugs, Devlyn

Hello ladies! I'm FTM, so I probably don't belong here, but I would like to ask all of you a question.
As many of you know, a woman lost her gym membership after she complained to management about a man entering the women's locker room. Many sources state that this person was just a man: bearded, masculine, etc. claiming he is a trans woman just to play Peeping Tom. The woman lost her membership simply because she was shocked and uncomfortable with the situation.

I personally disagree with PF's logic, of letting anyone use any restroom and locker room in their facilities. They say that even if a regular man claims he is a woman, he can use the women's locker room, showers, etc. in front of other women. Facebook is applauding them...saying how there is no such thing as the gender binary system, everyone should do everything together, and hooray for Planet Fitness... honestly, I cannot disagree more. This is a violation of privacy.

I asked my trans girl friends whether they would ever enter a women's locker room pre-hormones, pre-surgery...they said never, unless they were fully confident that they passed, and went with a nice group of girls to feel personal safety. I agree; I don't think any trans woman would put herself into a dangerous situation like this, knowing that she does not pass. Neither would trans men. I feared public locker rooms and restrooms until 1.5-2 years on testosterone, where I was certain no one would bat an eye.

What do you girls say? Locker rooms are based on sex, not gender. That is why we trans folk take hormones...to change our secondary sexual characteristics (and SRS for our primary). Women naturally feel comfortable with other women, since they have the same body. After transition, our sex matches our gender. As a trans man, I would never pull my underwear down in a locker room (even though I pass everywhere else) knowing that people would freak out, feel uncomfortable, and other stuff.

I hope I don't sound too critical, but I thought about both sides in this situation. I think if I, 3 years ago, would enter the men's locker room as a female, the gym would have full rights to either warn me or revoke my membership. It is an invasion of privacy for the other men.

Quote from: BigGuy on March 08, 2015, 08:20:43 PM
Hello ladies! I'm FTM, so I probably don't belong here, but I would like to ask all of you a question.
As many of you know, a woman lost her gym membership after she complained to management about a man entering the women's locker room. Many sources state that this person was just a man: bearded, masculine, etc. claiming he is a trans woman just to play Peeping Tom. The woman lost her membership simply because she was shocked and uncomfortable with the situation.

If this is indeed true then it will be really really bad for us.

However, I would like to see a picture of the person in question before I pass judgement.

Hi BigGuy, welcome to Susan's Place! I haven't heard that it was someone posing as a  transgender person to gain access, do you have a link?

Hugs, Devlyn

Quote from: ImagineKate on March 08, 2015, 08:27:29 PM
If this is indeed true then it will be really really bad for us.

However, I would like to see a picture of the person in question before I pass judgement.

Not sure how that would be bad for us? "Man enters ladies room, transgender community to blame" doesn't make a very believable story.

Hugs, Devlyn

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on March 08, 2015, 08:29:33 PM
Hi BigGuy, welcome to Susan's Place! I haven't heard that it was someone posing as a  transgender person to gain access, do you have a link?

Hugs, Devlyn

I hope i'm not breaking any board policy about external links (?). I found a link - apparently shes a trans woman according to this article that said she just went inside the ladies locker room to hang up her purse and coat:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/transgender-woman-planet-fitness-locker-room-article-1.2142084

I've read that transgender woman in question came forward and she assumes it was her this lady was complaining about.  She lives as a woman.  If the other woman was complaining about someone faking being trans, I'd like to know the truth.

But Planet Fitness has said this woman lost her membership not because she complained once, but because she came back every day to complain and tell anyone who would listen about the "man" in the women's locker room.  She was creating a disturbance.